Yup, nothing like shooting up while in a 2000 person fleet fight

OP needs to smoke a J and chill out.

Everytime I've tried to play this game drunk (twice) I just end up spinning my ship in the hangar and yappin away in a chatroom (everadio and FNA chat respectively). And as far as narcotics go the last thing I think I would wanna be doing if I were stoned is sitting on my ass staring at a screen (unless it's some really trippy mindfuck movie of course).

Honestly I find when I'm doing my space thing nothing beats doing it like a proper Picard with a thermos of hot tea.

Last time I got drunk I spent 600 mil on useless ****.


I'll do it again...

We are not writing homo-erotic Star Trek Fan Fiction here, we are discussing drugs and alcohol. Have a nice day.

Boy don't make me come over there and throw my oolong in your face.

Lots of sugar in most alcohol; the exceptions being wine and beer, ale, cider, stout generally.

Yes just what I need. An irregular heartbeat, mental destitution, a flapping tongue, and disrupted brain function. Don't think so.

I get drunk occasionally, with friends, not while I'm sat alone playing a computer game.

That's where cigarettes and tea come in.

Hey buddy. Have you ever played spaceships...

Have you ever played spaceships WHILE HIGH ON WEED?!

You did it wrong...

"Have you ever played internet spaceships, on weeeeeeed?"

I'd contribute something intelligent and useful to this conversation, but I am suffering from irregular heartbeat and mental destitution. My fingers are literally unable to touch the correct keys as I type this. I am so impaired, in fact, that I doubt any of you will be able to read this in the morning after I come down from the high. Please don't make fun of this post, as my withdrawal symptoms and hangover will not make it a pleasant experience.

Captain Safety can surely help me recover and then teach me about God or something.

Also if you're left handed they have a place you can go to pray it away or something

Seriously, am I the only one who doesn't drink or use drugs while playing this game, or at least only one of a few?

Okay, not everybody. Maybe even not that many, but they are there and I see it presented often like it is, 'The thing to do' when really it is kind of stupid even at its mildest. Actually, I don't mind myself being unconventional, even if other people do.

So, what's the deal here?

Last time I got drunk I spent 600 mil on useless ****.


I'll do it again...

Yes just what I need. An irregular heartbeat, mental destitution, a flapping tongue, and disrupted brain function. Don't think so.

Well it seems you already have 3 of those.

If I know we have a long op coming up I buy some Adderal from one of the local High School kids.

Hey buddy. Have you ever played spaceships...

Have you ever played spaceships WHILE HIGH ON WEED?!

Only just about every day my good friend. Just like the back of a twenty dollar bill, brother, there is some crazy **** there.

I'm a bartender, and I find that it's easier to play when I'm drunk. Hell, every thing is easier drunk. Took me two days to learn the basics of this game sober, took me a few minutes to accidentally discover a great load out for my Caracal. I wouldn't mind playing sober, but it's just so much fun after a drinks of the Sailor. I also smoke, but not weed or cigarettes. I smoke hookah. Does that make me a bad person?

Oh, and coffee. Lots and lots of coffee.

The same line of "logic" goes into some workplaces too (WHO SAYS I CAN'T RUN A BUSINESS WHILE WASTED????).

I'm pretty sure that never turns out well.

people are risk adverse so having something that lowers ones inhibitions is a good thing for pvp...

Said it before to someone, but does it get lonely up there on that pedestal?

I don't think that's the drug of choice for many EVE players. Pretty sure it's not actually.

I never really understood Turkish Tobacco, but I've never tried it. There was a place in a city I lived in once that made a business of provided a place to sit and smoke various flavors of tobacco, (mango, and various other things), but I figured it wouldn't help me to try it and I imagine it was a bit pricy.

I suppose it might not be that bad, but the idea of smoking tobacco that way is a little unusual to me.

I bow to the weedlord some crackhead stole my copy of that movie. It was in my X-box.

IRONIC ISN'T IT?

You smoke which is a more harmful and more expensive habit than most recreational drug habits, so what exactly is your point.

Drugs....what else am I supposed to do making the 17 jumps to Jita? Talk in corp chat?

bwahaha.. who do you think you're kidding? Where did you get the notion that smoking was more harmful, (medical studies say weed is 40% more likely to cause Cancer than cigarettes, and that's just weed), and more expensive, (Costs me $300 a month or so, and I've known people to blow $1-200 in single night on alcohol before it cost 80% of the price of a pack of cigarettes for a bottle of beer at the bar, and that's just alcohol), than 'most' recreational drugs.

Lets get back to the 'most' bit.

You do realize that inexpensive drugs, (not including cheap pharmaceuticals, legals like Rush, cough syrup, mouthwash, or rubbing alcohol to name a few), are the minority don't you?

I've never purchased or even looked at the price of purchasing anything serious, but I do know people sink their entire wallets, (there bi-weekly pay short of rent if they don't forget), into fun for a night or a weekend that leaves them penniless and often starving until the next payday.

Most 'serious' drug addicts share accommodations with others and work out how to afford the rent between them. Non-taxpaying migrant laborers, (fruit-pickers around here mostly), have a group that has a 4 off; 2 on mentality, meaning 2 guys work for a couple days then come back and blow their collective pay on drugs and alcohol, while another 2 go out and work for 2 days and come back and do the same.

The whole group spends and average of 60% of their time for the duration of the season drunk and wasted or somewhere between high and low without settling on sober for long. They save none of it--afaik--on average and end up working to get back home because they can barely afford gas, or hitch-hiking and begging for food along the way to wherever they originated from or wherever they happen to be going.

Quite often they make an average of $20-25 an hour 6-10 hours a day, for when they are working.

Meth melts your brain, Crack kills and destroys all cognizant awareness as it destroys the brain, ******* destroys your heart and eats away the lining of your nasal passages, and various other things. Most people who use any of these regularly or even irregularly are quite possibly, and even somewhat likely, to die before they are 30, or even 20.

When was the last time you heard that about cigarettes? ..or compared the user of one to the user of the other with regard to social and psychological interaction and behaviors? You are aware that most young children addicted to meth end up developing sociopathic tendencies, and are considered violent and dangerous to all people around them?

The primary reason tobacco is as bad as it is, is because the 'Big Tobacco' companies put Benzene in it to keep cigarettes burning, (even when in the ashtray or presumably butted out in many cases), use insecticides and herbicides in the growing process, never clean the plants, but instead hang them to dry and spray them with more poisons during the curing process to keep the bugs and rats off, then begin to process the tobacco by adding various other toxins and poisons to 'enhance' the flavor and stuff like Benzene to make sure that people go through them faster, and nicotine of course, because they are not addictive enough as is, naturally.

Natural tobacco is just a leaf, a bit of smoke, some carbon dioxide and--depending on the burn--varying, but low amounts of Carbon Monoxide and nicotine, along with various other simple and common products of combustion.

..or to put it another way, natural tobacco is like a wood burning fire, and processed, manufactured tobacco is like a forge fire full of anthracite and no ventilation, if that makes more sense.

certainly it's shorter.

Crack and Meth are Drano and various other things. Some of the other stuff is bad in other ways, and I've heard people even like to drink anti-freeze.


Worse than most? No, but it is bad.

Most 'serious' drug addicts share accommodations with others and work out how to afford the rent between them. Non-taxpaying migrant laborers, (fruit-pickers around here mostly), have a group that has a 4 off; 2 on mentality, meaning 2 guys work for a couple days then come back and blow their collective pay on drugs and alcohol, while another 2 go out and work for 2 days and come back and do the same.

The whole group spends and average of 60% of their time for the duration of the season drunk and wasted or somewhere between high and low without settling on sober for long. They save none of it--afaik--on average and end up working to get back home because they can barely afford gas, or hitch-hiking and begging for food along the way to wherever they originated from or wherever they happen to be going.

Quite often they make an average of $20-25 an hour 6-10 hours a day, for when they are working.

Meth melts your brain, Crack kills and destroys all cognizant awareness as it destroys the brain, ******* destroys your heart and eats away the lining of your nasal passages, and various other things. Most people who use any of these regularly or even irregularly are quite possibly, and even somewhat likely, to die before they are 30, or even 20.

When was the last time you heard that about cigarettes? ..or compared the user of one to the user of the other with regard to social and psychological interaction and behaviors? You are aware that most young children addicted to meth end up developing sociopathic tendencies, and are considered violent and dangerous to all people around them?

The primary reason tobacco is as bad as it is, is because the 'Big Tobacco' companies put Benzene in it to keep cigarettes burning, (even when in the ashtray or presumably butted out in many cases), use insecticides and herbicides in the growing process, never clean the plants, but instead hang them to dry and spray them with more poisons during the curing process to keep the bugs and rats off, then begin to process the tobacco by adding various other toxins and poisons to 'enhance' the flavor and stuff like Benzene to make sure that people go through them faster, and nicotine of course, because they are not addictive enough as is, naturally.

Natural tobacco is just a leaf, a bit of smoke, some carbon dioxide and--depending on the burn--varying, but low amounts of Carbon Monoxide and nicotine, along with various other simple and common products of combustion.

..or to put it another way, natural tobacco is like a wood burning fire, and processed, manufactured tobacco is like a forge fire full of anthracite and no ventilation, if that makes more sense.

certainly it's shorter.

Crack and Meth are Drano and various other things. Some of the other stuff is bad in other ways, and I've heard people even like to drink anti-freeze.


Worse than most? No, but it is bad.

Everytime I've tried to play this game drunk (twice) I just end up spinning my ship in the hangar and yappin away in a chatroom

...

Yes just what I need. An irregular heartbeat, mental destitution, a flapping tongue, and disrupted brain function. Don't think so.

We are not writing homo-erotic Star Trek Fan Fiction here, we are discussing drugs and alcohol. Have a nice day.

Lets get back to the 'most' bit.

You do realize that inexpensive drugs, (not including cheap pharmaceuticals, legals like Rush, cough syrup, mouthwash, or rubbing alcohol to name a few), are the minority don't you?

I've never purchased or even looked at the price of purchasing anything serious, but I do know people sink their entire wallets, (there bi-weekly pay short of rent if they don't forget), into fun for a night or a weekend that leaves them penniless and often starving until the next payday.

Most 'serious' drug addicts share accommodations with others and work out how to afford the rent between them. Non-taxpaying migrant laborers, (fruit-pickers around here mostly), have a group that has a 4 off; 2 on mentality, meaning 2 guys work for a couple days then come back and blow their collective pay on drugs and alcohol, while another 2 go out and work for 2 days and come back and do the same.

The whole group spends and average of 60% of their time for the duration of the season drunk and wasted or somewhere between high and low without settling on sober for long. They save none of it--afaik--on average and end up working to get back home because they can barely afford gas, or hitch-hiking and begging for food along the way to wherever they originated from or wherever they happen to be going.

Quite often they make an average of $20-25 an hour 6-10 hours a day, for when they are working.

Yes just what I need. An irregular heartbeat, mental destitution, a flapping tongue, and disrupted brain function. Don't think so.

I drink cider as it makes up one of my 5 aday.

Cider is my co-pilot

bwahaha.. who do you think you're kidding? Where did you get the notion that smoking was more harmful, (medical studies say weed is 40% more likely to cause Cancer than cigarettes, and that's just weed), and more expensive, (Costs me $300 a month or so, and I've known people to blow $1-200 in single night on alcohol before it cost 80% of the price of a pack of cigarettes for a bottle of beer at the bar, and that's just alcohol), than 'most' recreational drugs.

Lets get back to the 'most' bit.

You do realize that inexpensive drugs, (not including cheap pharmaceuticals, legals like Rush, cough syrup, mouthwash, or rubbing alcohol to name a few), are the minority don't you?

I've never purchased or even looked at the price of purchasing anything serious, but I do know people sink their entire wallets, (there bi-weekly pay short of rent if they don't forget), into fun for a night or a weekend that leaves them penniless and often starving until the next payday.

Most 'serious' drug addicts share accommodations with others and work out how to afford the rent between them. Non-taxpaying migrant laborers, (fruit-pickers around here mostly), have a group that has a 4 off; 2 on mentality, meaning 2 guys work for a couple days then come back and blow their collective pay on drugs and alcohol, while another 2 go out and work for 2 days and come back and do the same.

The whole group spends and average of 60% of their time for the duration of the season drunk and wasted or somewhere between high and low without settling on sober for long. They save none of it--afaik--on average and end up working to get back home because they can barely afford gas, or hitch-hiking and begging for food along the way to wherever they originated from or wherever they happen to be going.

Quite often they make an average of $20-25 an hour 6-10 hours a day, for when they are working.

Meth melts your brain, Crack kills and destroys all cognizant awareness as it destroys the brain, ******* destroys your heart and eats away the lining of your nasal passages, and various other things. Most people who use any of these regularly or even irregularly are quite possibly, and even somewhat likely, to die before they are 30, or even 20.

When was the last time you heard that about cigarettes? ..or compared the user of one to the user of the other with regard to social and psychological interaction and behaviors? You are aware that most young children addicted to meth end up developing sociopathic tendencies, and are considered violent and dangerous to all people around them?

The primary reason tobacco is as bad as it is, is because the 'Big Tobacco' companies put Benzene in it to keep cigarettes burning, (even when in the ashtray or presumably butted out in many cases), use insecticides and herbicides in the growing process, never clean the plants, but instead hang them to dry and spray them with more poisons during the curing process to keep the bugs and rats off, then begin to process the tobacco by adding various other toxins and poisons to 'enhance' the flavor and stuff like Benzene to make sure that people go through them faster, and nicotine of course, because they are not addictive enough as is, naturally.

Natural tobacco is just a leaf, a bit of smoke, some carbon dioxide and--depending on the burn--varying, but low amounts of Carbon Monoxide and nicotine, along with various other simple and common products of combustion.

..or to put it another way, natural tobacco is like a wood burning fire, and processed, manufactured tobacco is like a forge fire full of anthracite and no ventilation, if that makes more sense.

certainly it's shorter.

Crack and Meth are Drano and various other things. Some of the other stuff is bad in other ways, and I've heard people even like to drink anti-freeze.


Worse than most? No, but it is bad.

lStudies have shown again and again NO LINK BETWEEN CANNABIS USE AND CANCER.

Yup, nothing like shooting up while in a 2000 person fleet fight

I read these in a Somerset accent, Cider country best country.

DO NOT!...: pvp with a jug of real southern cider (the flat stuff that tastes like the offspring of; a great seasonal cider and copella pressed apple juice), before you know it you are singing on comms and getting podded 20 jumps from the gang you are meant to be with

drunk and fly no, but a beer or two, glass of wine perhaps, very nice on a friday night.

That sounds like farmhouse scrumpy to me, you strain it through your teeth, it's non carbonated and dissolves anything that falls into the barrel during brewing.

that stuff is more like a long absinthe drink than a buy--buy-the-pint (or jug) beer/ale/cider

only its sweet tastes makes you think its not that strong, then you wake up with a hangover no isk, no ships and no clones.

A good hypnotic is great for Eve too, you'll wake up 10 hours later and you'll be 50 jumps out into 0.0 with no memory of how you got there.

that stuff is more like a long absinthe drink than a buy--buy-the-pint (or jug) beer/ale/cider

only its sweet tastes makes you think its not that strong, then you wake up with a hangover no isk, no ships and no clothes.

This is one of the odder things I've read on these forums. All the symptoms you're describing in this section are of addiction, and not necessarily drug addiction. And you're not wrong in what you say below about the potential dangers of doing some of the harder drugs but you also seem to actively ignore the fact that there are plenty of fully functioning occasional drug users who lead successful and fulfilling lives.

It's a very black and white way to look at the world and totally ignores all the grey in-between.

I enjoy it. There's nothing better than sitting down with the friends around a hookah and smoking and laughing together. A cigarette is for "solo flying," it's what you do to get a quick fix and move on with your day. But with a hookah, you can sit down with friends and enjoy each others company. The fact that it doesn't have tar or rat poison and is only straight tobacco with its natural level of nicotine (which is below 0.05% I believe) makes it that much more appealing.

EDIT: If you're trying it for the first time, I suggest either Peach, Melon and Mango (if you aren't into sweet flavors). If you want sweet, Pomegranate, Kiwi and Mint. Make sure you go easy on the Mint though. Also, make sure it's Al Fahker. People will tell you Starbuzz is better, but Al Fahker is the legit imported stuff and Starbuzz is grown here in America. Also, there's Tangiers flavor which is grown by a chemist that lives in San Diego, but that stuff is SO HARSH that I can't even smoke it even though I've been smoking hookah for almost eight years.

As for weed and irregular heartbeats, its effects very person to person and it is possible one person may experience that effect where another would not or would not notice it. The thing is though, you never really know what's in the stuff, (unless you grew it yourself I suppose), and you have no idea what you are actually taking while calling it weed.

Uh... what?

The chances of your weed being tampered with is practically nil. And I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. Weed is pretty distinctive... unless you're a complete idiot or you have no experience at all you're never going to be handed a bag of some random plant and think it's weed when it isn't.

(Or you're buying extremely low quality weed, in which case I don't feel sorry for you getting ripped off)

I'm not sure where you live, but around here the chance is somewhere between 80-100% Most likely 100% because it's produced that way. How do you think they come up with so many 'flavors'?

edit: speaking of handed some random plant and thinking it was weed; I had that happen at a border crossing, where the guard took it out of the trunk of my car and presented it to me with a question. I was detained for nearly 2 hours while they examined it, and I was pretty convinced I might see jail time and lose my car and everything in it. Turns out it was grass clippings.

About a week earlier, my girlfriend had lent my landlord the car to transport a lawn mower. Given she often used it when I was at work, and I knew she had lent it out on a few occasions, I really had no idea. Anything could have been transported in that car, and it sure looked like it might be weed.