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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:26:00 -
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just counted 20 people ITT cancelling their accounts...
Can't say I blame them!
CCP devs are OMINOUSLY quiet tonight... even more than usual for this time of night...
Also ITT: People realising that X:Rebirth is coming out this winter! >:D the only massive sandbox space game to ever even closely rival eve:
http://www.deepsilver.com/en/news/
I'll be buying at release... especially if this ccp episode continues...
I'm just waiting for one of eve's major players to quit now... Milia already psuedo-has done... Can't say i'm far behind if CCP doesn't come up with a REALLY good explanation. And an explanation it will be... because if they try to justify it all? it's bye bye internet space ships and bye bye over-inflated icelandic games company. -------
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Miilla So, why the bans?
It's a simply matter of harassment. Be a ****head, slander the company through every internet media outlet you can get your cheeeto covered fingers on, and BAM expect a ban.
So much outrage against Eve and the developers is rooted in two things:
1)Ignorance. Take for example, everyone who reads that bulletin and thinks its real. The philosophy espoused in that fake article directly contradicts what CCP is ACTUALLY DOING with the NeX. Read the article, look at the NeX store. They dont match up at all.
2) Bigotry. EvE players have a long-standing feeling of superiority over WoW players. Internet spaceships pilots thinking they're cooler and smarter than internet mages. Whatever. I dont give a crap whether you're into spaceships, wizards, vampires, or fantasy football, you still have a nerdy hobby. Just take ownership of it and stop inflating your ego by tearing down those with a different nerd streak than yourself.
This is a huge driving factor over the hysteria with MT and incarna - if it bears the slightest resemblance to WoW, and the WoW bigotry takes over and nerdrage blinds emo-forum-warriors from actually taking an intelligent, informed, opinion based on a summary piecing together of all the facts and CCP statements on the table.
Same with WoD and Dust - if you can relate it to Call of Duty or Twilight, you can place into categories hated on by bigoted eve players with an inflated sense of nerd superiority. Rational sense goes out the window, OMGWTFVAMPIRESNOOOO takes over.
CCP isn't banning people that are offering simple, constructive, respectful criticism. They are banning ****heads who spam them from every angle with emotion filled hateful rants that have little use or bearing on reality, or who condone and spread fake CCP material like the stuff that sparked this thread.
just imagine... for one second... that this is a ccp alt... -------
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Republica Winder
Originally by: Black Dranzer You know, thinking back, yesterday when the prices came out for the vanity items, I thought to myself, this is bad, but it probably won't hurt subscriber numbers.
This.. this might actually hurt subscriber numbers.
Hurt? It's going to hurt like jumping out of a plane onto the peak of Mt. Everest without a parachute.
Given the incredibly high prices they put on their baubles can you imagine what they plan to charge us for the stuff being mentioned in the leaked internal newsletter?
This expansion has already cost CCP far more money in the subscribers they have lost AND WILL LOSE SOON than RMT will make them. And they have already lost their reputation. Like virginity, it can't be regained.
Actually, they have an operation for that.
It uses needles and thread.
what you plan on doing after your subs up milia? any games out there you're thinkin of? (genuinely interested) -------
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Heimdallofasgard on 23/06/2011 01:02:29
Originally by: Mister Smithington FOR ALL THOSE CONTEMPLATING QUITTING myself included: Before you go, buyout every plex you can afford AND REDEEM THEM.
Currently every unredeemed plex is a $15 loan to CCP. In other words, it's game time bought and payed for, but as of yet undelivered.
I realize adding more game time to your account when you're trying to leave is counter-intuitive. But if you want to send a message about our opinions on the NeX and MT, nothing rings louder than opting for game time over vanity items.
Force CCP to deliver the service that players have already payed for REDEEM YOUR DAMN PLEX!
I think he might be onto something...
this'd drive plex prices higher as well... devaluing the rest of the in game economy... and making those who buy plex with $$'s at more of an advantage, emphasizing the Richboi gaining advantage over other players effect... while players who use plex to fund their accounts... become unable to afford plex because of the inflated prices and thus cancel subs...
edit: could bring down the eve economy if enough people do it... -------
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
yeah i'm not.... just waiting on ccp to come clean with its customers (us)... -------
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:37:00 -
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Indeed... fearless.... kind of an ironic title for their internal newsletter...
Fearless: Bold, Brave, Intrepid
But there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity... best not take risks with your "golden goose" now ccp... delete this Aurum and NeX store from the game and be done with this nonsense. -------
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Originally by: Republica Winder
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Erichan someone mentioned earlier that chribba had posted.. does anyone have a link to that?
I don't see a post on eve-search, so this was probably not true. Chribba is never one to make such posts quickly or lightly.
True. But he was very strong in objecting to the "hey let's profit off our dedicated players who have done stuff our inbred Devs couldn't to make our game better" scheme.
I believe he will respond to this too.
What I'd love to see Chribba do is announce he is terminating his websites and support for EVE until the cash shop is undone and CCP ENDS RMT in EVE. CCP could not survive the bad PR of a ****ed off Chribba.
Boy are you wrong (thats sad, really). But in business terms, EVERYONE is replacable. Yes, even Chribba. If CCP decides to not care, they won't.
Hah! Chribba? Replaceable? He's done more for the Playability of eve than ccp ever did -------
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba ok seriously, I've like Ctrl+A, backspace this post 5 times now, tbh I'm out of words.
I would like to know how many 3rd party developer/sites are doing it for the ****ing awesome income it generates?! Seriously, this if anything WILL kill development of sites and services.
As a creator of sites/applications/services for New Eden since well over 6 years now, I can tell you that I have never once created something with the goal to make money off it, this whole thing about needing a license to make something for the community is just ****ing ******ed! Just hearing this makes my interest/will for developing things crash.
This is not about the $99, this is about how you want to charge me because I want to do something for the community out of my free will - does that sense? Do you feel I am stealing your IP, making massive amounts of money off your IP? Then tell me straight up, don't try to bind it into some fluffy clouds and call it "great news".
Every IPO in Market Discussions will now require a license, since after all, it's donations. Corporations should get a license too, I mean having a corp tax of >0.0% could be seen as a donation to the corporation...
And yeah, I guess me and everyone else with an EVE IP tattoo will need a license, I mean, some other geek may think it's awesome and want to buy me a beer...
I'm just very sad to see this even being discussed, talk about a punch in the face. Don't get me wrong, I see your point of EVE IP, and yes I can agree that it may need to be controlled to some extent, but this is not the way. Not by far.
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:44:00 -
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Do people think we should seperate the EVE Dev team from ccp itself? if CCP are telling the eve dev team to implement this as their business model... then it's ccp's problem... not the eve dev team... who maybe split over the direction the game is heading.
Apart from soundwave... he's a weekend warrior... plex for standings? hah... go grind like the rest of us you fool -------
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:17:00 -
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Thread is 24 hours old... pretty sure this is a new record of some sort... -------
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Heimdallofasgard on 23/06/2011 20:50:51 Anyone else see this today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T1SZKab7F8&feature=related
just sayin... -------
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