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MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:33:00 - [1] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku just have to put this in here Devblog its just too good Props, i was looking for that
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:59:00 - [2] Dont know how to quote from another forum topic, this is the blue post from "Where are the moderators? " topic Posted - 2011.06.22 18:47:00 - [35] - Quote Report We are forever watching from the shadows. Lurking behind the blue bars. Usually on days like today we are interested in reading feedback. I know I know, don't faint.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Ultan Rova From the recently linked blog, 'AmmoAnywhere'?! And so it begins... Wtf is wrong with them? Let people buy their ammo in Jita 4-4, like a normal person! Check the date stamp on that, its april fools post.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:13:00 - [4] You have the commentary on their greed model right there in pdf format. Look at it for yourself.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:36:00 - [5] Appears the rage is subsiding. Your move CCP...
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Jonny Utrigas Edited by: Jonny Utrigas on 23/06/2011 04:59:23 I suspect that even with all the outrage at this possibly real, possibly fake "leaked" document, CCP's reaction is,"You mad bro?" Until we have our angry mob on their door step with torches and pitchforks ready it's likely this whole MicroTransaction world of ***gotry will persist. Just sayin'. 600,000 AUR to titan bridge an angry mob.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:47:00 - [7]
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Jonny Utrigas So, it should be about 8AM now, anyone care to start making bets on whether this threadnaught will get a response, lock, or both? Tomorrow, just to make me waste the time staying up late
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Jonny Utrigas Originally by: Koskovf CCP - your subscribers are not the same demographic that play F2P games, this model will not work for eve. THIS. I've left every MMO I played that introduced MT, because it was always something that was just not for me. +1
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:16:00 - [10] Originally by: Miilla So, who's in the mood to play Eve? Nah, neither am I, and havn't been since yesterday. 112days remaining then bye bye On the one hand, thats the 4th or 5th time youve said that (yes, ive been here for half a day now) On the other, you show more attention to this cluster**** than CCP is. Props!
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: MrSteack Originally by: Miilla So, who's in the mood to play Eve? Nah, neither am I, and havn't been since yesterday. 112days remaining then bye bye On the one hand, thats the 4th or 5th time youve said that (yes, ive been here for half a day now) On the other, you show more attention to this cluster**** than CCP is. Props! Just woke up to check the thread lol.. Still not in the mood to load up the client.. Does'nt feel fun anymore. When a game loses its "fun", its dead. EVE is not "fun". EVE is serious buisness! Well, less serious and more buisness lately.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Shoot2kilI FFS steak go to sleep man. NO I MUST WATCH THIS
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 17:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Reed Tiburon CCP HAS RESPONDED! http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535591 Now WTF are you supposed to say to that... Not a real response. We need to wait for their PR department to ok an official statement. Im sure forum mods arent allowed to say a word without their concent.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 17:28:00 - [14] Edited by: MrSteack on 23/06/2011 17:28:46 Fivteen hundred posts and not a single rick roll. This is serious Edit: Devblog posted on the issue
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 17:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Jade Constantine Here is the problem Verone. Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and ôgetö what makes Eve great û and thatÆs the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not ôget eveö does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base. Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game: 1. The Captains Quarters û itÆs not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible û if you have a bad graphic card itÆs a jerk fest û if you have a decent graphics card itÆs heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQÆs turned on û I can run it smoothly û but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQÆs on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay. CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a ôdisembark shipö option to the UI but ôoh noö to do that would have meant we werenÆt being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if weÆre to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store. 2. If you read the newsletter youÆll see reference to saved fitting slots û and I donÆt know about you Verone but in JF weÆve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the ôbiz-devsö talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such ôminor upgrades.ö? 3. Who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldnÆt you rather than engine trials and flashy cyno effect rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store? Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about. HereÆs the thing. The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didnÆt want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come. I donÆt want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really donÆt have much of a clue in business. +1
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:00:00 - [16] Edited by: MrSteack on 23/06/2011 18:00:34 Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot Edited by: Tea Ester Elliot on 23/06/2011 17:59:37 The door, it has a purpose! Bwahahahaha, you are my hero!
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:32:00 - [17] Originally by: Florestan Bronstein Quote: Hello all, We understand that right now, many of you have a number of concerns and issues with the current state of EVE Online, we ask that you not derail threads with these posts. We are asking all of you who have comments and issues regarding the newsletter to post in this thread, and those of you with comments and issues regarding the Noble Exchange store prices to post here. This will help us keep track of what is being said by the community much more easily, while allowing other players to discuss other aspects of EVE Online in an on-topic environment. Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us Linkage it... is real, the newsletter was real
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:56:00 - [18] From Failheap pt1: So I see you are now all also on the same page. Yes, I read the Fearless magazine some time ago, and you may have noticed I used it a couple of time for some price quotes and comparisons. Ofcourse, as this is FHC, you all called me nuts and bitter back then, but I certainly enjoyed hearing that those price quotes and comparisons caused a bit of a stir up there in Iceland. I thought that was pretty funny. My reaction, BTW, after sleeping on it for a night, was quite the same as a couple of people have posted in this thread: I cancelled my remaining account. I had that account for several years, and before the tripe in this magazine still had hopes that possibly, maybe, cooler, smarter heads at CCP would prevail over this madness. Hope that were obviously dashed then, as they are for some of you now. Likewise, I wasn't even angry about it then, just disappointed. As for those who are clamouring for a response from CCP. Don't bother. Rumour has it that from high on up at CCP the word has come down not to respond but look at :metrics: first. Those :metrics: being: the amount of swag sold from the MT shop. Yes, that means that if you think your cancellation will amount to anything, then I suspect that it won't amount to a hill of beans. All those nicely worded cancellation letters you might have drafted will end up in the nice round archive, or more appropriately: /dev/null. Eventually, obviously, CCP will, in some way, give a response, kind of in the form of a non-apology apology. You've seen them before, so you'll know what to expect. At any rate, CCP's response to threadnaughts should be well known by now: they circle the wagons. I.e., they let the customers (they still have) blow off steam for a couple of days, then throw in the locking and 'cleaning-up' of the threads, and the throw in the non-apology apology dev-blog and that will be it. CCP is basically done with listening to their customers by now, every sign points to that, and it is even more clear from a bit of distance (i.e., no longer being subbed). But don't think CCP is an entity as a whole on this issue, or on many other issues in fact. From what I can gather, and as you know by now some people tell me things about stuff, CCP is basically split right down the middle from high to low on this MT issue. Well, perhaps less so from on high and more so from on low really. Dear John Turbefield may have been the 'also has something to say'-guy in the internal magazine, but he's one of many, obviously on the non-decision-making level who fundamentally disagree just as much as, well, most of you and I about this whole MT nonsense. But they not only don't have any decision making influence, they have no real influence at all.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:58:00 - [19] Failheap pt2: There is no real discussion at CCP, and there hasn't been for quite a while. Like Seleene said, the majority of employees get told squad, don't know what's going on, quite a few have become complete apathetic to what's being decided even. In the end, it's just a job, and they are actively encouraged in that direction. They aren't asked for their opinion and even if they'd have one, or wanted to ventilate one, there's nowhere to go with it. They are just there to concentrate on their thing, and applaud there rest, and basically drink the coolaid. Most stopped caring quite some time ago. And that is mostly because the 'leadership' (hard to talk about leadership when it's become so incompetent but what other word is there?) is by now entirely 'personified'. Call it little kingdoms, call it cliques, call it whatever you like, there are just a couple of people who really have an influence, and although that's not bad in and off itself, they stopped listening to everyone else but to those who tell them what they like to hear (read Stoffer) or who tell them funny things. This was the case when :18months: happened, and just like now, CCP circled the wagons, and it just got worse. Moreover, what came out here now, was already common knowledge for quite some time at CCP internally, so quite a lot of the good guys, the guys with options to go somewhere else, well, they have packed their bags, or they are quite busy packing their bags. Why am I telling you this? Well, because I think it is important that you understand that it is basically over. This may be EVE's NGE moment, it may not be, we don't know yet, but one thing should be clear. This magazine is a clear reflection of how CCP think internally. And once you realise that, it is clear that for EVE it is over. Perhaps just for me, I can accept that not everyone will agree with me on this, but this way of thinking 'breaks' EVE. It is fundamentally flawed, and it will only get worse over time. CCP the company is, in my view falling apart, and so is EVE with it. And frankly, I don't see how it can be stopped, not any more. And no amount of circling the wagons can stop this from happening. Not if half of your cowboys are basically joining the Indians while you do it. Lot's of slippery slope analogies can be made but really, it's all downhill from here. I'm enjoying the sight, but only because I'm well away from the boulders really.
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:03:00 - [20] Is it me, or did the new patch today add a whole lot more of this NEX clothing in the regular market? Untick "Show only available" and browse through what theyll add to the NEX soon. They are really on top of that DCII
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:37:00 - [21] Edited by: MrSteack on 23/06/2011 19:38:07 Originally by: Black Dranzer :images of removed thread: CCP: If it's unflattering, it's untrue. That thread is showing up on my PC, check your connection http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535654 Post #14 is the one we are all talking about
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Black Dranzer Originally by: MrSteack That thread is showing up on my PC, check your connection The thread is there. The post isn't. Their moderation is on overdrive. ... /facepalm
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:03:00 - [23] Edited by: MrSteack on 23/06/2011 21:03:35 Redundant about learning skills
MrSteack Caldari Unchained Potential Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.23 22:19:00 - [24] Edited by: MrSteack on 23/06/2011 22:19:48 HAHAhahahaha http://www.eveonline.com/en/incarna They bumped the video about introducing the CQ to the front page today. Something about this seems pathetic. edit:link included

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