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Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:04:00 - [1] Edited by: Sly Noble on 22/06/2011 22:25:30 INCARNA is the worst game expansion I've ever seen. Its flat out UNPROFESSIONAL. 1) The quality of the product is unacceptable. Period. I don't need to mention the myriad of problems because everyone is having them. This is flat out a case of Production/Marketing completely ignoring Quality/QA. Shoddy doesn't even begin to describe the functionality of this expansion. Do you know what other companies follow this practice? 3rd world manufacturing plants and companies that get shut down and permanently black listed. The practice of ignoring QA is flat out unacceptable, especially for a big-name industry premiere like CCP, trying to win over new customers. If it were any other industry, auditors would smack CCP off Iceland so fast, Bjork's next album would consist solely of whimpering sounds and farts. Shame on you CCP. 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. Thankfully I don't need to drop another 3,000 hard-earned dollars on a brand new computer to even RUN THE GAME but MANY of your loyal customers do. Amidst tough economic times, CCP has **ed off thousands of customers and DETERRED countless new subscriptions by forcefully and drastically increasing the requirements to use their product to the point that less than half of their customer base can, and only an elite small percentage can afford to run AS ADVERTISED. 3) Deterring new players/subscriptions. Why any new player would choose to play EVE INCARNA now, over an ever increasing-multitude of high(er) quality games with REALISTIC hardware requirements is beyond me. EVE already has a notoriously tough learning curve and INCARNA adds a frankly unplayable, glitchy, unprofessional and MANDATORY experience. I would have never gotten into EVE if this was my first experience. Bad call. 4) Ignoring requested features/fixes/balances (continuously) Nothing new here and we all know the drill. You're damn right you'll be, as one of your brass said, "burned at the stake" for this. Ignoring things that make the game better and barging ahead with your CLEARLY outlined profit-driven agenda is a sure fire way to ** off customers and lose MAJOR face in the industry. In my mind and many others, INCARNA counts as a major strike in your reputation. 5) Does not add substance to the gameplay. I know this is only the first step, but this expansion adds nothing but superficiality, a fact that is WELL DEMONSTRATED and mirrored by the 60$ monacle Aurum cluster-F. Frankly, its a lot of hot air, and adds no substantial gameplay. Pair that with the above #4 statement and everyone can see that CCP has completely lost touch with reality and its customer base. The majority of players don't really want monacles, they want new mechanics, challenges, ships and balancing. Go ahead take a poll, oh wait, you did, and you completely ignored the results. Bad Business. I could go on, but heres a summary of CCPs unprofessionalism. 1) Low quality/non functional product 2) Alienating/losing current customers 3) Deterring new customers 4) Losing respect/reputation within the industry and with customers. 5) Adding no substantial gameplay Now I have no doubt that the bugs will in time get sorted out... I'm sorry CCP but your QA department is a joke. Beyond that I'm also willing to accept that this is the "first step" and only the "beginning of things to come". Looking at the direction this "first step" is taking is what is the most concerning. I am not impressed.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:12:00 - [2] Incarna - The most whinage I've seen since Warp to Zero
Oranen	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:17:00 - [3] I think it's being generous to call it an expansion when 95% of the "content" added zero to actual gameplay and can be disabled with a single checkmark in the menu - again with no impact on gameplay if you disable it.
Zag'mar Jurkar	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:18:00 - [4] Incarna is the best free game expansion EVER
Mehrdad Kor-Azor Amarr Iure Divino	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:18:00 - [5] I just wanted a T2 Harby... Is that too much to ask?
Lord Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:20:00 - [6] I started losing faith in CCP after the Tyrannis expansion. What was hyped vs. what we got. Well, it's just gone down hill from there. Really starting to look for somthing else to invest my money in.
Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Oranen I think it's being generous to call it an expansion when 95% of the "content" added zero to actual gameplay and can be disabled with a single checkmark in the menu - again with no impact on gameplay if you disable it. Yep, that was the 2nd thing I did after I initially closed the game. Let me rephrase: Incarna is the greatest expansion of all time.
Nuhm DeAra	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:23:00 - [8] Edited by: Nuhm DeAra on 22/06/2011 22:23:47 Originally by: Sly Noble 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. If by large you mean a vocal minority of crying infants, I see your point.
Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Nuhm DeAra Edited by: Nuhm DeAra on 22/06/2011 22:23:47 Originally by: Sly Noble 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. If by large you mean a vocal minority of crying infants, I see your point. Everyone knows crying over-vocal minorities ain't nothin to f with.
YanuTzu	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:29:00 - [10] Seriously Sly Noble, I can't help my self saying that.... +1000000000 !
Logical Chaos The Ankou Raiden.	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Logical Chaos on 22/06/2011 22:29:44 Originally by: Sly Noble 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. Thankfully I don't need to drop another 3,000 hard-earned dollars on a brand new computer to even RUN THE GAME but MANY of your loyal customers do. Don't buy an Alienware computer then....... I mean seriously, theres a lot of **** happening atm, but 3000 Dollar... lol.
Oranen	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:31:00 - [12] I thought the vocal minority was the reason we got walking in stations to begin with.
Raza Locuta	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Logical Chaos Edited by: Logical Chaos on 22/06/2011 22:29:44 Originally by: Sly Noble 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. Thankfully I don't need to drop another 3,000 hard-earned dollars on a brand new computer to even RUN THE GAME but MANY of your loyal customers do. Don't buy an Alienware computer then....... I mean seriously, theres a lot of **** happening atm, but 3000 Dollar... lol. Truth
Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:34:00 - [14] Edited by: Sly Noble on 22/06/2011 22:34:48 Originally by: Sly Noble 3,000 hard-earned dollars yes, 3,000$ is a lot of money to spend on a ** box. thats my point. Originally by:** Logical Chaos theres a lot of sh*t happening atm. speaking of... did you just make a pun?
Daelorn	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Sly Noble Blah blah blah I laughed. Thank you.
Khira Kitamatsu	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:38:00 - [16] This is 1 part of many and you are judging the rest of what they have planned on the first installment. There is the door >>>> [] ...cancel your account. Nobody is stopping you.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:39:00 - [17] just wanted to let you all know OP started playing during Incursion. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Arquaid	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:39:00 - [18] apart from the microtransactions, and that somehow CQ makes this avatar look hideously fat and lardy when compared to the portrait capture screen, i dont mind incarna. I wouldnt exactly call it an expansion. if you want an expansion go look at aion 2.5, thats a proper expansion. This is a minor content patch.
General Xenophon Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Sly Noble Edited by: Sly Noble on 22/06/2011 22:25:30 INCARNA is the worst game expansion I've ever seen. Its flat out UNPROFESSIONAL. 1) The quality of the product is unacceptable. Period. I don't need to mention the myriad of problems because everyone is having them. This is flat out a case of Production/Marketing completely ignoring Quality/QA. Shoddy doesn't even begin to describe the functionality of this expansion. Do you know what other companies follow this practice? 3rd world manufacturing plants and companies that get shut down and permanently black listed. The practice of ignoring QA is flat out unacceptable, especially for a big-name industry premiere like CCP, trying to win over new customers. If it were any other industry, auditors would smack CCP off Iceland so fast, Bjork's next album would consist solely of whimpering sounds and farts. Shame on you CCP. 2) Alienating/Abandoning a large percentage of the customer base. Thankfully I don't need to drop another 3,000 hard-earned dollars on a brand new computer to even RUN THE GAME but MANY of your loyal customers do. Amidst tough economic times, CCP has **ed off thousands of customers and DETERRED countless new subscriptions by forcefully and drastically increasing the requirements to use their product to the point that less than half of their customer base can, and only an elite small percentage can afford to run AS ADVERTISED. 3) Deterring new players/subscriptions. Why any new player would choose to play EVE INCARNA now, over an ever increasing-multitude of high(er) quality games with REALISTIC hardware requirements is beyond me. EVE already has a notoriously tough learning curve and INCARNA adds a frankly unplayable, glitchy, unprofessional and MANDATORY experience. I would have never gotten into EVE if this was my first experience. Bad call. 4) Ignoring requested features/fixes/balances (continuously) Nothing new here and we all know the drill. You're damn right you'll be, as one of your brass said, "burned at the stake" for this. Ignoring things that make the game better and barging ahead with your CLEARLY outlined profit-driven agenda is a sure fire way to off customers and lose MAJOR face in the industry. In my mind and many others, INCARNA counts as a major strike in your reputation. 5) Does not add substance to the gameplay. I know this is only the first step, but this expansion adds nothing but superficiality, a fact that is WELL DEMONSTRATED and mirrored by the 60$ monacle Aurum cluster-F. Frankly, its a lot of hot air, and adds no substantial gameplay. Pair that with the above #4 statement and everyone can see that CCP has completely lost touch with reality and its customer base. The majority of players don't really want monacles, they want new mechanics, challenges, ships and balancing. Go ahead take a poll, oh wait, you did, and you completely ignored the results. Bad Business. I could go on, but heres a summary of CCPs unprofessionalism. 1) Low quality/non functional product 2) Alienating/losing current customers 3) Deterring new customers 4) Losing respect/reputation within the industry and with customers. 5) Adding no substantial gameplay Now I have no doubt that the bugs will in time get sorted out... I'm sorry CCP but your QA department is a joke. Beyond that I'm also willing to accept that this is the "first step" and only the "beginning of things to come". Looking at the direction this "first step" is taking is what is the most concerning. I am not impressed. WELL SAID! Wholly agree, especially with the concept of making the game MORE system intense and trying to lure NEW players to play this box, graphically intense, piece of that has become Eve Online, the Real Money Transfer, Item shop of horrors, bull** gimmick game of the century. ------------------------------------------------ This http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12238558/a-fictionalized-account-of-the-events-that-led-to-june-21st
Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu This is 1 part of many and you are judging the rest of what they have planned on the first installment. There is the door >>>> [] ...cancel your account. Nobody is stopping you. Yes I am judging the rest of what they have planned. Clearly. I tried your door, but it didn't work. On closer inspection it was a series of brackets which were, in fact stopping me.
YanuTzu	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: Sly Noble Blah blah blah I laughed. Thank you. Crazy cause people like you are just saying : "Stop crying, stop it stop that, CCP are fabulous ect..." But what else ? Stop saying the truth lol ? Just have a look on what Incarna really does for the game. Have a look. And if you're inteligent (What I don't doubt), you'll see that Incarna is like a civilian miner on a Vagabond, nonsense.
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar Incarna is the best free game expansion EVER This. That is to say, if you completely disregard CCP's previous expansions, and all other free expansions. But yeah, totally, dude.
Tla Atij	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:43:00 - [23] Eve-online - Free to start playing (trial account) - Free to continue playing (buy game-time with isk) - Free items from the real money store (buy from market with isk) - Free expansions (twice a year) - Free fun. I don't know about you, but I like free things, especially if they're fun.
Zag'mar Jurkar	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:44:00 - [24] Edited by: Zag''mar Jurkar on 22/06/2011 22:44:35 Originally by: Sly Noble Edited by: Sly Noble on 22/06/2011 22:34:48 Originally by: Sly Noble 3,000 hard-earned dollars yes, 3,000$ is a lot of money to spend on a **** box. thats my point. 500-600$ is more than enough to run Eve with decent graphics. My 1700$ computer will just need an extra 5850(which are at around 164$) and I'm pretty sure it will run Battlefield 3 at max settings.
Scyth Darkhope Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:45:00 - [25] FPSs exist since castle wolfstein. Never have I seen such a horrible CQ interface. CCP programmers haven't played Quake? Or Doom? If people complain (I don't) that space interface is badly designed, what will they say about the CQ?
Grimnir	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Sly Noble 1) The quality of the product is unacceptable. Period. I don't need to mention the myriad of problems because everyone is having them. When you can include me, you can say everyone; until then .... no.
Sly Noble	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Grimnir Originally by: Sly Noble 1) The quality of the product is unacceptable. Period. I don't need to mention the myriad of problems because everyone is having them. When you can include me, you can say everyone; until then .... no. Fair enough. I will edit my post to include this caveat.
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:53:00 - [28] all you supporters, who are angry some players hate this expansion cheer up! It's your game now, we are on the way out, enjoy your new, quality eve
Khira Kitamatsu	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:55:00 - [29] Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 22:55:15 Originally by: San Severina all you supporters, who are angry some players hate this expansion cheer up! It's your game now, we are on the way out, enjoy your new, quality eve I know I will! CYA!
Austherus Sialomaet Amarr Secluded Stronghold Order	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 - [30] I'm getting tired of all these crybabies... Don't like it? Shut the **** up and leave...be a man... And people say eve community is mature...dumbasses crying over anything that is not what they need...I hope CCP launches 3 years of incarna expansions so we ge rid of this scum... Be well...

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