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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 01:38:36
EDIT: Link for those that dont have images enabled.
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So should this guy be fired or promoted? |
Blnukem 192
Amarr
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:28:00 -
[2]
Should be fired.
 Originally by: CCP Navigator
This is really not worthy of a thread.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:29:00 -
[3]
And should some players with double digit IQ and triple digit income give their advices to an established company with fluent cash flow ?
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 -
[4]
should be fired then shot and chopped up into bits in scattered at sea.
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Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 -
[5]
Fired. He doesn't seem to realize the difference between SELLING vanity items TO HIS CONSUMERS and SCAMMING HIS CONSUMERS with vanity items.
Originally by: anonymous
WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Raid''En on 23/06/2011 01:30:57
there is no reason to fire someone for giving his opinion on a document.
there is however a reason if he's the guy who decided (or make people decide) to put current clothes price / future items
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Libria Kyzal
Gallente
Fags R Us
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 -
[7]
I heard League of Legends and Manga, I say no :'D
My Latest Incarna Vlog |
Bieber Fever
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:31:00 -
[8]
Voted off the island. No more Iceland for him.
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:31:00 -
[9]
isnt that the dev from the tournament? i kinda liked him
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:32:00 -
[10]
The saddest part is most lurkers in the forums never log in or enable picture showing in threads, they will just see a link saying they need to log in to enable pictures 
I believe a lot of the pro Incarna activists might change their views a bit if they enabled pictures. 
---Archipelago Theory---
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Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:33:00 -
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I question its authenticity. I'd honestly be surprised if a CCP employee, (whether for or against MT), would go on the record like that. It's very unusual. Not to mention that bit about buying dresses in League of Legends, seeming like an obvious punch to the ribs. Being able to read Japanese is good though. 
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Xercodo
Amarr
Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:33:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Ludacrys
isnt that the dev from the tournament? i kinda liked him
yes that is soundwave
and i find it downright hilarious that now that his got out that he's being burned at the stake literally with forum flames.
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie |
Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:33:00 -
[13]
Fire him.
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Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:35:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
And should some players with double digit IQ and triple digit income give their advices to an established company with fluent cash flow ?
How about a triple digit IQ and 4 digit income? (per month)
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:36:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Brujo Loco
The saddest part is most lurkers in the forums never log in or enable picture showing in threads, they will just see a link saying they need to log in to enable pictures
I believe a lot of the pro Incarna activists might change their views a bit if they enabled pictures.
The picture says:
YES
Kristoffer Touborg wants you to show him the money:
I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, IÆd like to sell a lot more than vanity items. Does this mean IÆm an evil capitalist that, unless stopped, will cause the entire company to catch fire and be buried at sea by a secret team of Navy SEALs?
LetÆs hope not, although thatÆs the impression I get sometimes when interacting with our customers. There is a pretty overwhelming perception amongst EVE players that these changes are bad. I think theyÆre brilliant, but our players donÆt. WeÆre going to face an uphill struggle, and the reason many of us never talk about this publically is that weÆd be burned at the stake by the players.
-(picture of CCP Soundwave)
Kristoffer is a driving force in CCPÆs Game Design department. The vast majority of his free time is spent buying dresses for his characters (using microtransactions) in League of Legends and reading authentic Japanese Manga comic books.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:38:00 -
[16]
He broke many hearts.  He is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st |
Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:40:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Brujo Loco
The saddest part is most lurkers in the forums never log in or enable picture showing in threads, they will just see a link saying they need to log in to enable pictures
I believe a lot of the pro Incarna activists might change their views a bit if they enabled pictures.
sorry.
Added a link to the post now.
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So should this guy be fired or promoted? |
Sojenus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:40:00 -
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:42:00 -
[19]
CCP Soundwave seems like a cool guy whenever we see him, so I don't like to say mean things about him.
But if this is the direction he wants for Eve, then yes, he needs to go. He's just not an influence I want for this game.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:42:00 -
[20]
Boot his ass I hated him during the AT and I hate him even more now.
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Republica Winder
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:45:00 -
[21]
Is burned at the stake an option?
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HostageTaker
Gallente
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:46:00 -
[22]
He was a ****ty eve player, a ****ty ISD, and now a ****ty dev...
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:46:00 -
[23]
Don't fire him,
He's one of the last 10 people actually working on EVE online and running the only team delivering spaceship content for the past 2 years.
He is just a puppet for the marketing drone and the company that devoted all its resources to the Twilight MMO.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:46:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Republica Winder
Is burned at the stake an option?
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Seishi Maru
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:48:00 -
[25]
Funny is.. if that had leaked BEFORE the rounament.. then it would have been much more funny because he woudl be completely uanble to present it due to the massive reactions :P
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Anslo
Disciples of Night
Dominion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:50:00 -
[26]
This is going to be a P.R. nightmare...
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:50:00 -
[27]
Fire soundwave and hire me.
Im twice as ugly and three times as efficient.
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:52:00 -
[28]
This is Big Brother. Don't even pack your stuff, just go.
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ôRemember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home in peace.ö
-Cold Wind |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:53:00 -
[29]
Fired. Zinfandel too.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
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KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:54:00 -
[30]
There's a typo in the text:
"Kristoffer is a DIVING force in CCPÆs Game Design department."
Or sinking.. whateva
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Derpderp derpderp
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:58:00 -
[31]
KRISTOFFER CAUSED BOOT.INI ... NOW THIS.. FIRED.
My reputable source is in my other anus right now and this is hate mongering.
~Enjoy
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Erim Solfara
Amarr
inFluX.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:02:00 -
[32]
Hey, no worries with him taking orders, but he shouldn't be anywhere near Games design, demote him, lots, leave him bug fixing or something :P
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Chandler Urandom
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:02:00 -
[33]
I kinda liked this fella from what I've seen. I don't anymore. Funny how that works.
Quote:
I think they're brilliant, but our players don't
I like having sex with women; women don't like having sex with me. Are you sure it's raep if I like it? For the record, I think my analogy is brilliant, even if my readers don't.
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Righteous Deeds
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:03:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Righteous Deeds on 23/06/2011 02:04:07
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that a simple, honest rate hike would have been far more acceptable than this poorly executed thing. I mean, it's not fooling anyone, and the new system requirements made it self-defeating anyway. The impact on lower end system users will offset the silly avatar bling revenue.
I'm guessing the monocle sells for about 50 cents a vertex.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:04:00 -
[35]
If I'm not entirely mistaken there's been a lot of activity in Iceland requiring virgin sacrifices, for the safety and profit of the airline industry.
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Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:04:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Myra2007
He broke many hearts. He is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.
Indeed, I expected better.
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Amat victoria curam.
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Col Howitzer
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:05:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Col Howitzer on 23/06/2011 02:05:11
Ya i would have been one to pay more a month for a sub fee than what Eve has become
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General Xenophon
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:07:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 01:38:36
EDIT: Link for those that dont have images enabled.
Where is this even from? I know I hate CCP for adding micro-transactions to Eve but this image looks cropped and no link to another site except this image itself. What article for what source and who did the interview? Where is this from? Legit link please and I'd be more than happy to hand out the pitch-forks.
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One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months of playtime to buy in an item shop! |
Col Howitzer
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:09:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Col Howitzer on 23/06/2011 02:10:47
Steam is offering Icarna for $9.99 50% off reg price coincidence?
Free EVE Online expansions - You will never be charged for an EVE expansion - as the EVE universe grows, so do the benefits of your subscription.
^ ^ ^ part of advertising
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AngryMax
Gallente
Warriors tribe
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:10:00 -
[40]
I like SoundWave, tell me it wasn't his asinine idea. 
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Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:10:00 -
[41]
If this is true it is a very sad indictment on where CCP is headed. And if the current MT debacle is this guys brainchild then he needs to go.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:12:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos
If this is true it is a very sad indictment on where CCP is headed. And if the current MT debacle is this guys brainchild then he needs to go.
This... and sack half of the management also.
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Play with the best - die like the rest
starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:14:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Nak hak on 23/06/2011 02:14:30
Fire everyone! Hire Indian managers and developers( Wait. They may be able to save it. Look who they're replacing.). The outcome will be the same for less money. Owners cashing in to EVE's bitter end.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:15:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Xercodo
Originally by: Ludacrys
isnt that the dev from the tournament? i kinda liked him
yes that is soundwave
and i find it downright hilarious that now that his got out that he's being burned at the stake literally with forum flames.
I find it sad.
...
If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.
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Elliott Calvadeux
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:16:00 -
[45]
Yes Stoffer, you are literally Hast.
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xwolfi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:17:00 -
[46]
Fired for his nearly idiotic naivery :D I would agree with him about the vanity item sellings, but seeing how many hours I should work in my ****ty country to pay one of such "unreal" items is just depressing :( Icelandic people must be fat rich to even consider it possible !
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Saju Somtaaw
Kagan-Trjula Industrial
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:18:00 -
[47]
If this is true he could easily fit in a Large Artillery shell...if its a fake then who ever made it should fit as well...
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:19:00 -
[48]
Now now the man makes some good suggestions, lets follow one.
Burn him at the Stake.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:20:00 -
[49]
Burn!
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Misha M'Liena
Amarr
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:21:00 -
[50]
I'm going to get royally flamed..........But *dons flame ******ant suit* Soundwave needs to stay for a simple reason.
As a example to the rest of the devs and newhires.....Don't be like soundwave. Throw his sorry can't program his way out of a wet torn paper bag ass off a roof. But don't fire him.
Misha. Trying to save Soundwaves job, so i can throw him off a roof.
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:21:00 -
[51]
Edited by: BLACK-STAR on 23/06/2011 02:21:42
Originally by: Algathas
Burn!
who's the guy stacking the wood LOL
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar
Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:22:00 -
[52]
If he hadn't said he wanted microtransactions to be more than just vanity items, I'd say promote him. The only reason I haven't biomassed my characters after canceling my accounts is because I still have a faint hope that a few months from now we'll see a press release from ccp saying "eve is all about parting idiots from their isk, and we found a way to take it to a whole new level. P.S. we totally trolled you guys, the tears were hilarious lololol".
But since that's hardly likely to happen, I would recommend reading this somewhat disturbing eve chronicle for ideas on alternatives to fireing.
And for the record, I don't think that he's an "evil capitalist" for wanting microtransactions (I don't even think that wanting to make a profit is a bad thing). What I have a problem with is when companies scheme to milk their customers for every last bit of cash they can squeeze out, and eve is running headlong down that path with people like him leading the charge.
Three years ago they said there'd never be microtransactions.
Last year they said there'd be microtransactions but only for vanity items with little to no effect on gameplay.
Next year you'll probably be able to buy faction ammo for cash, $1 per shot.
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Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:23:00 -
[53]
The original document hasn't been proved to be real or fake yet, so rather than jumping to conlusions straight away as is the norm, maybe we should wait a little.
Stoff is entitled to his opinion anyway, and there is nothing yet saying that CCP will be following this route.
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Enna Shendara
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:23:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Raid'En
Edited by: Raid''En on 23/06/2011 01:30:57
there is no reason to fire someone for giving his opinion on a document.
Nonsense. He has dangerous opinions. People who have dangerous opinions need to be ousted before dangerous opinions morph into dangerous policy.
Fire him. Since guy, sorry to see him go, but he clearly applied for the wrong job.
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Misha M'Liena
Amarr
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:25:00 -
[55]
umm Cerbus? Are you really this naive or just faking in hopes your not pointed out as a ccp dev alt?
Misha, trying to save soundwave's job, so i can throw him off a roof.
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:28:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Tla Atij on 23/06/2011 02:28:39
Fire'd.
Link to image: Burn!
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Eklesiastico
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:48:00 -
[57]
This kinds of money hungry claims are disheartening.
Quote:
Does this mean I'm an evil capitalist that [...]?
Not evil, just clumsy. I don't know your numbers, but I for one wouldn't support your product.
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LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Emergent Dawn
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:50:00 -
[58]
If that article is actually legit - off with his pod! 
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xwolfi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:56:00 -
[59]
it comes from this : http://www.mediafire.com/?n8ohtufd1mtamgb (the leaked CCP bulletin posted by evenews24 : http://www.evenews24.com/2011/06/22/greed-is-good-purportedly-leaked-internal-bulletin-shows-ccps-refreshing-new-direction/)
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:06:00 -
[60]
This is, by far, the most gullible playerbase ive yet to see.
No one realizes what ccp is doing? serious?
You guys are being walked right into the pot, dancing monkeys and mesmerizing colors all around ya......
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Zarah Jade
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:09:00 -
[61]
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
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Velu Mate
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:36:00 -
[62]
shoot him and cut out his tongue, and then shoot his tongue!
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Pat Morrison
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:40:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
You support purchasing ammo, ships and faction standings instantly with real money?
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Charlie Ponzi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:47:00 -
[64]
Should be promoted to CJO.
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Vhal Vhindiscar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:52:00 -
[65]
His name was John Turbefield!
His name was John Turbefield!
His name was John Turbefield!
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:54:00 -
[66]
He needs to be sacked.
Immediately, and publicly.
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:54:00 -
[67]
Call me hopeful, but I'm still waiting on a CCP response to this. I do firmly believe in innocent until proven guilty. Eve has some smart players and I wouldn't put it past some of them to come up with this entire thing. I would like to hear CCP's side of the story, regardless of the players who seem to have their minds made up.
I do like soundwave though, he's one of the only CCP guys who's real face I recognize (from fanfest videos, alliance tournaments, etc). If these are his words then I'll feel pretty let down, to know players didn't like something and to push it on them anyway?... but that's an assumption, I'm sure he'll have to respond to all of this, I'll be waiting for that.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Pat Morrison
Originally by: Zarah Jade
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
You support purchasing ammo, ships and faction standings instantly with real money?
You support world war III and using nukes ?
See what i did here ?
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Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:56:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Jada Maroo
CCP Soundwave seems like a cool guy whenever we see him, so I don't like to say mean things about him.
But if this is the direction he wants for Eve, then yes, he needs to go. He's just not an influence I want for this game.
I like him from watching the live stream of fanfest and other stuff. I really do. I won't rail him for his opinion, but he can't expect this to have gone any other way if it were to be made public - which happened.
If he won't allow the will of the playerbase to decide it, and he wants to force it on us... then yes, sadly, he needs to go. Which is unfortunate.
--
Originally by: CCP Explorer
(and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Vidar Kentoran
Minmatar
Eighty Joule Brewery
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:56:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
The disturbing part about this is that CCP is literally planning to sell performance-enhancing items, not just vanity items.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:58:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Lyrrashae
He needs to be sacked.
Immediately, and publicly.
And by sacked, you mean teabagged.
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Vidar Kentoran
Minmatar
Eighty Joule Brewery
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:00:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Vidar Kentoran on 23/06/2011 04:01:11
Edited by: Vidar Kentoran on 23/06/2011 04:00:37
"On the opposite end of the scale to vanity goods are performance based items such as weapons. They are consumed through gameplay, making them a potentially powerful source of renewable income. Selling them for real money is very tempting. They are highly desired by the player audience and yield lower development costs, as variation can be achieved through numbers rather than unique art assets. Selling them though, is highly controversial. We are planning on doing so. I would be tempted to say it is because we are fearless, but the real reason is that we have strong evidence that selling performance enhancers, in moderation, works. Korean developers have capitalized on performance enhancing items for a long time, but it took a leap of faith from the people developing Battlefield: Heroes to show that the same principles that work in Korea apply for the western market as well."
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:01:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Lyrrashae
He needs to be sacked.
Immediately, and publicly.
And by sacked, you mean teabagged.
Cept instead of Balls it should be Bricks.
Wait first the Balls to the face then the Bricks.
A Proportionate Responce is important.
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Originally by: Pat Morrison
Originally by: Zarah Jade
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
You support purchasing ammo, ships and faction standings instantly with real money?
You support world war III and using nukes ?
See what i did here ?
Wrong: 0/10, learn how to argue.
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Neo160
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:03:00 -
[75]
reprimanded for making the PR departments existence an utter nightmare.
wait, does CCP even have a PR department??? no really, no joke, do they actually have one? from what I've seen i doubt it
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Quacka
Minmatar
Dark Tree Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:12:00 -
[76]
BURN THE VILE CREATURE ALIVE!Wring its neck and hang it from a cross!
damn... I dont know what came over me. Felt surprisingly good.
P.S. Oh and yeah he should be fired I guess.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:30:00 -
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:36:00 -
[78]
Fired? No. SW seems a decent enough guy and it's only an opinion after all.
On the other hand I think CCP and EvE would benefit if one of its most fervent promoters of micro transactions took a look at the feedback and ultimately changed his position.
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Barlaka
Amarr
Thermopile Systems
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:53:00 -
[79]
CCP Soundwave: "Does this mean IÆm an ignorant capitalist that, unless stopped, will cause the entire loyal fan base to catch fire and then I'll be promoted at sea by a secret team of Sony execs?"
Speaking as an American (we know what Capitalist look like) Yes CCP Soundwave, you are.
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Murdah
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Lol
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Zarah Jade
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:22:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Pat Morrison
Originally by: Zarah Jade
promoted. i still dont see all the grief over charging for vanity items so long as the bulk of resources and development continues to be used on the core game (sans vanity items)
You support purchasing ammo, ships and faction standings instantly with real money?
no just vanity items. i was under the impression thats all that could be purchased but maybe i'm wrong. im a bit old school and beleive in earning status and power in an mmo not buying it. my bad if i was mistaken.
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Marcus Vorenius
Instant Annihilation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:33:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Sader Rykane
/snip <image>
i'll not support "Stop Tuborg" - I have principles
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Thomas Turnpoint
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:38:00 -
[83]
Forget the $80 monocle, they would make a truckload of hard cash with...
"'The Hulk Buster!' One missile, one shot, one dead Hulk! Just 20,000AU each! On sale now!"
Talk about a cash cow.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:40:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Sader Rykane
/snip <image>
i'll not support "Stop Tuborg" - I have principles
Tuborg != Touborg
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Mspaine
Amarr
Knights of Solitude
Knights of the Rising Phoenix
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:47:00 -
[85]
I'm still waiting for CCP to realise that Selling LOTS of clothes - for alot cheaper price = more money in the long run for them.
At current - all they're doing is making hteir playerbase very ****ed off because they're coming across (well not coming across in this instant, you're blatantly running around nude with the fact written on you in glowing neon pen) that they're nothing more than a bunch of greedy ****wads that dont give a **** abuot their playerbase and see us only as walking wads of cash that they need to find ways to get us to surrender it to them.
Again - CCPTards. Drop the prices drematicly on Clothes - and watch yourselves make a ****load of money because people can actualy afford them without thinking wow, do i realy want to spend $36.95 on a piece of vertual clothing when i can turn it into 2 mths of game time? Or isk to benefit myself in game? Hell buying a real life ****ing shirt from the store costs less.
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Panda Name
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:49:00 -
[86]
i wish i was a navy seal.
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Komen
Gallente
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:52:00 -
[87]
Fired please, he's also a really bad host for the PvP Tourney. Jesus, if I have to listen to him 'ah' and 'hm' and 'uh' through two more weekends next time...
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:01:00 -
[88]
Look at this way.
CCP has fully committed to MTs. They are coming, it will be as bad as you can imagine and most importantly, they don't give a **** what anybody says. They have fully convinced themselves that its required to "not becoming a dinosaur". What Soundwave said is just a reflection on how's it going to be from now on, for all CCP games.
The here and now is that he is leading the ONLY team giving you spaceship content (Team BFF did incursions, PI and NPC AI work for a possibile future gameplay mechanic), and is arguable a member of a very, very very small section within the company still working exclusive to EVE.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:04:00 -
[89]
You know, while I normally enjoy threads filled with threats of violence against real life people over internet spaceship monocles...haha no wait I don't actually, you guys are awful and I am deeply ashamed that I have to post here
First, soundwave is pretty much the lead developer on flying in space features at the moment, and he and his team have done hard work improving the quality of life within eve in the last few months. They are now supposedly working on iterations for POSs, nullsec warfare and ship balance for the winter expansion. So, yeah, boo, fire that guy, fixing those things that people want fixed, what an ass he must be
Second, he put a lot of effort into hosting AT9 and doing who knows what else behind the scenes, and he deserves a good bit of respect for that too
Third, while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, if only you weren't attempting to burn him in effigy over the internet for having an opinion contrary to your own
tldr: the lot of you need to stop posting and go relax or something 
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Panda Name
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:08:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
You know, while I normally enjoy threads filled with threats of violence against real life people over internet spaceship monocles...haha no wait I don't actually, you guys are awful and I am deeply ashamed that I have to post here
First, soundwave is pretty much the lead developer on flying in space features at the moment, and he and his team have done hard work improving the quality of life within eve in the last few months. They are now supposedly working on iterations for POSs, nullsec warfare and ship balance for the winter expansion. So, yeah, boo, fire that guy, fixing those things that people want fixed, what an ass he must be
Second, he put a lot of effort into hosting AT9 and doing who knows what else behind the scenes, and he deserves a good bit of respect for that too
Third, while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, if only you weren't attempting to burn him in effigy over the internet for having an opinion contrary to your own
tldr: the lot of you need to stop posting and go relax or something
one of your eyes could really use a monocle.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:14:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:14:48
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
... while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, ...
-Book Critic's Review of "Mein Kampf" (1926)
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Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:15:00 -
[92]
i was saying this when soundwave attacked my game last year.
He has no idea.
He needs demoting to the point where he is not actually making decisions about our game.
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:17:00 -
[93]
Goonswarm pilot.
Now he is employed by CCP and thinks he is better than us. Like we are in his way for his dress up doll game and ammo for plex.
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Dr Geiger
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:18:00 -
[94]
When will you people learn. Never trust a Dev who wears eyeliner ffs.
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Malias Yakusto
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:20:00 -
[95]
Promoted. He's a better troll/scammer then the Carbon sellers in Jita could ever hope to be.
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Mina Sulva'r
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:27:00 -
[96]
Give him a raise, just for having to put up with flocks of angry neckbeards. And for making the forums more entertaining.
And like I said before, he should change his name to Shockwave. KA-BAMMMMM!
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Marcus Vorenius
Instant Annihilation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:27:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:14:48
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
... while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, ...
-Book Critic's Review of "Mein Kampf" (1926)
+1
The Newsletter is probably signed-off by a C-level (CEO, COO, CFO etc.), so I doubt there would be any employee statements that didn't follow CCP's business strategy. He should of course not be fired - he is just doing his job.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:28:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:14:48
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
... while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, ...
-Book Critic's Review of "Mein Kampf" (1926)
i admit, i did kinda chuckle at you implying that he was like ******, considering he said in the article that players do that
on the other hand, it does make you kinda unoriginal and a little boring, so i am forced to only award you 1/10
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:34:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:36:33
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:14:48
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
... while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, ...
-Book Critic's Review of "Mein Kampf" (1926)
i admit, i did kinda chuckle at you implying that he was like ******, considering he said in the article that players do that
on the other hand, it does make you kinda unoriginal and a little boring, so i am forced to only award you 1/10
I really wasn't referring to him as ****** as my point being that sometimes you have to nip things before they get out of hand. Often what people say/write is what they will do regardless of popular opinion and that article is a good example.
Originally by: Dr Geiger
When will you people learn. Never trust a Dev who wears eyeliner ffs.
Well that explains why EVE is turning so gay lately.
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:37:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Malias Yakusto
Promoted. He's a better troll/scammer then the Carbon sellers in Jita could ever hope to be.
No he's not this is too obvious, a good troll/scammer doesn't make their precense known and will get away with it as if it was normal business.
Incarna, giving pilots a single room bachelor pad with a mirror and no beer since 6.21.2011 |
Elienore
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:39:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
You know, while I normally enjoy threads filled with threats of violence against real life people over internet spaceship monocles...haha no wait I don't actually, you guys are awful and I am deeply ashamed that I have to post here
First, soundwave is pretty much the lead developer on flying in space features at the moment, and he and his team have done hard work improving the quality of life within eve in the last few months. They are now supposedly working on iterations for POSs, nullsec warfare and ship balance for the winter expansion. So, yeah, boo, fire that guy, fixing those things that people want fixed, what an ass he must be
Second, he put a lot of effort into hosting AT9 and doing who knows what else behind the scenes, and he deserves a good bit of respect for that too
Third, while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, if only you weren't attempting to burn him in effigy over the internet for having an opinion contrary to your own
tldr: the lot of you need to stop posting and go relax or something
Well, I can only say I agree with this. I usually find the forum enjoyable and entertaining but this thread actually makes me angry.
While I'm used to the usual whine/hate, this thread is one giant ****cluster. What the bloody hell is wrong with people? Maybe it's just my displaced sense of dignity/decency but targeting a single person with this damn attitude and hostility is just plain idiotic.
I've tried ending up hating the forum once or twice but never ashamed of it. This is pretty much the lowest I've seen people get here. Something isn't right when I actually get angry for real around here.
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:42:00 -
[102]
Promote him!
The sheer amount of tears he produces is outstanding!
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:42:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 06:43:56
Originally by: Elienore
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
You know, while I normally enjoy threads filled with threats of violence against real life people over internet spaceship monocles...haha no wait I don't actually, you guys are awful and I am deeply ashamed that I have to post here
First, soundwave is pretty much the lead developer on flying in space features at the moment, and he and his team have done hard work improving the quality of life within eve in the last few months. They are now supposedly working on iterations for POSs, nullsec warfare and ship balance for the winter expansion. So, yeah, boo, fire that guy, fixing those things that people want fixed, what an ass he must be
Second, he put a lot of effort into hosting AT9 and doing who knows what else behind the scenes, and he deserves a good bit of respect for that too
Third, while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, if only you weren't attempting to burn him in effigy over the internet for having an opinion contrary to your own
tldr: the lot of you need to stop posting and go relax or something
Well, I can only say I agree with this. I usually find the forum enjoyable and entertaining but this thread actually makes me angry.
While I'm used to the usual whine/hate, this thread is one giant ****cluster. What the bloody hell is wrong with people? Maybe it's just my displaced sense of dignity/decency but targeting a single person with this damn attitude and hostility is just plain idiotic.
I've tried ending up hating the forum once or twice but never ashamed of it. This is pretty much the lowest I've seen people get here. Something isn't right when I actually get angry for real around here.
Relax. No one is hating anyone here.
This thread is simply pointing out how someone can press on with their plans knowing and admitting fully that it will enrage the player base, solely because he finds the idea attractive.
In other words, it's his EVE and no one else's, so screw you.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar
Jukebox Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:43:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
First, soundwave is pretty much the lead developer on flying in space features at the moment, and he and his team have done hard work improving the quality of life within eve in the last few months. They are now supposedly working on iterations for POSs, nullsec warfare and ship balance for the winter expansion. So, yeah, boo, fire that guy, fixing those things that people want fixed, what an ass he must be
Second, he put a lot of effort into hosting AT9 and doing who knows what else behind the scenes, and he deserves a good bit of respect for that too
Third, while his actual opinion expressed in the article is indeed very wrong, he strikes me as an entirely reasonable fellow that you could perhaps convince of the correctness of your position, if only you weren't attempting to burn him in effigy over the internet for having an opinion contrary to your own
This is what makes him a very dangerous person to the game. No you won't be able to convice him to change his position. The guy has a lot of experience with EVE so he knows what he is talking about.
This is a person that does not care about the game, only about the $$ for CCP.
I would have more respect for CCP if they just wanted to raise the subscription. I don't even care about $ for vanity items, but $ for performance enhancers or non-vanity items is the end of EVE for me.
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Evilan Altana
Moriar Libera
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:06:00 -
[105]
No, first because a lot of the posting done about that document so far has been the same doomsayers who are always trolling and posting half truths.
So what if someone expresses their opinion that they think micro-transactions should be a part of the game. How about if you post a picture/link of the article, you post the entirety of it instead only a third of what is there.
As a whole his article seems to only show that while he may be in favor of micro-transactions, he also thinks it should be done carefully and done well. At no point does he suggest implementing anything that would give a player an advantage in gameplay over another player.
He also advocates that their should be a way for players just playing the game to earn the actual micro-currency, whether it be for just continuing to play the game or for doing something in game.
You and all the other sheep who jump on the forums and post your half truths and other bull **** are the problem. You are why reasonable players can not try to address real issues that occur with these sorts of things.
I would not buy these new items even if they were more reasonably priced, but it doesn't mean that its a bad thing, or that it was wasted development.
TLDR;
Shut the **** up you trolls and sheep, try taking something in context for once instead of being the idiots you are.
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Thom Baron
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:14:00 -
[106]
What I dont understand is why if they know so many people hate the idea, they think it's a good idea!
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:17:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Fired. Zinfandel too.
This.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:22:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Ciar Meara on 23/06/2011 07:22:06
Originally by: Blane Xero
Fired. Zinfandel too.
+1
also who the hell reads original japanese manga, just read playboy in stead at least you get decent interviews/text.
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A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:26:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Aineko Macx on 23/06/2011 07:27:20
Why would they fire those dudes? They are doing exactly what the shareholders want. And they want it because some analysts said MT is the way to roll.
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Sethose Olderon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:35:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 23/06/2011 07:37:46
Originally by: John Turbefield - Fearless - Volume I - May 2011
It is worth pointing out though that they [LOTRO] made almost every thing microtransaction based and at the same time removed subscription fees. Because other games with very different communities and very different gameplay styles are able to do something it doesnÆt mean we can do the same thing with the same levels of success. EVE is a far more complex game with significantly more social interaction, which changes a great deal about how you can approach virtual goods sales. While itÆs true that others, such as Blizzard have gone down the microtransaction path, they have not implemented any gameplay affecting items.
More revenue is of course an aim, but making our customers feel like they are being ædouble billedÆ to be able to play on the same level as others is just a step too far.
And this guy should be promoted and given a medal, he gets it.
Alliance Owned Stargates
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xwolfi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Promote him!
The sheer amount of tears he produces is outstanding!
Collecting virtual tears is as vain as collecting the stupid vanity stuff from NEX.
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Sethose Olderon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:46:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Evilan Altana
No, first because a lot of the posting done about that document so far has been the same doomsayers who are always trolling and posting half truths.
So what if someone expresses their opinion that they think micro-transactions should be a part of the game. How about if you post a picture/link of the article, you post the entirety of it instead only a third of what is there.
As a whole his article seems to only show that while he may be in favor of micro-transactions, he also thinks it should be done carefully and done well. At no point does he suggest implementing anything that would give a player an advantage in gameplay over another player.
He also advocates that their should be a way for players just playing the game to earn the actual micro-currency, whether it be for just continuing to play the game or for doing something in game.
You and all the other sheep who jump on the forums and post your half truths and other bull **** are the problem. You are why reasonable players can not try to address real issues that occur with these sorts of things.
I would not buy these new items even if they were more reasonably priced, but it doesn't mean that its a bad thing, or that it was wasted development.
TLDR;
Shut the **** up you trolls and sheep, try taking something in context for once instead of being the idiots you are.
Apologies in advance, but you are plainly and obviously the idiot, and especially so for calling others trolls and sheep.
Even though Kristoffer is marginally balanced in his statements, he is still quite clearly an active cheerleader for 'virtual goods sales' (not such a dirty word as micro-transactions). Moreover, you obviously don't have a clue as to how his examples could drastically and totally unbalance the economy and socio-political landscape of Eve.
His suggestion of rewarding 'high-level gameplay like taking sovereignty' is absolutely ludicrous, since this would do nothing but reinforce the already stagnant nullsec situation, and thus continue to prevent smaller alliances from taking a foothold there.
Also, the notion of providing more storage capacity for ship fittings is a classic example of removing a feature from the game, and then forcing the playerbase to pay in order to get it back, simply for the purpose of revenue generation and nothing else.
Next time, maybe you should read things twice, or maybe three times before you make such stupid statements.
Alliance Owned Stargates
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Ya Rayah Panala
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:51:00 -
[113]
I wish I'd live in iceland, I'd dump some wood in front of their office...
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Samantha Seraya
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:56:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Fired. Zinfandel too.
+1
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Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:57:00 -
[115]
set his sorry ass on fire, and deny him access to any ccp office.
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:59:00 -
[116]
Hahaha what a ****. "I KNOW IT WILL **** OFF ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT **** IT, LET'S DO IT ANYWAYS." Is this guy ******ed?
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:06:00 -
[117]
And what is wrong with selling additional server space for real money? (assumed that they don't downgrade the game intentionally so that you must have to buy stuff to make it an enjoyable experience)
What would be wrong for example if CCP hosted corp/alliance forums for some fee?
What would be wrong if CCP offered to host killboards for a fee?
Especially if that fee could be paid with in game money.
You still could continue to use third party forums/killsboards just like you are doing now, so no change in that. Or you could use the ccp things (which probably wouldn't offer that many options anyway :P). No big difference in SUCH things.
I see no big deal with selling non-gameplay-influencing things. It is a thin line though, one must be very careful. Are ship fittings already gameplay influencing? Yes. Are additional fitting slots gameplay influencing? Maybe, it depends on how many slots you got in the first place.
It is a very thin line. One must be very careful with those decisions and must consult with the playerbase first.
But who wants to trust CCP these days? With all their BS recently.
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Sethose Olderon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:10:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Gnulpie
But who wants to trust CCP these days? With all their BS recently.
On this we can agree.
Alliance Owned Stargates
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Spengman
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:13:00 -
[119]
So CCP hired a Goon, who then became a lead designer, and now this 60 bucks for a monocle fiasco.
I wouldn't be surprised if CCP offer to deliver the monocle, then keep it and blow the buyer up.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:13:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Hannibal Ord
Goonswarm pilot.
Now he is employed by CCP and thinks he is better than us. Like we are in his way for his dress up doll game and ammo for plex.
So this is the final play in Goons stated goal of destroying the game? :-)
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Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:14:00 -
[121]
Demoted... or brainwashed so he returns to be the DEV we all loved...
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:22:00 -
[122]
Fire is lit. Find him. 
This guy killed EVE. :bittervet:
Join Regeneration! |
Tzigan Jegos
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:28:00 -
[123]
Any CCP reply yet? |
Jasdemi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:29:00 -
[124]
Fire this douche.
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Danatious
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:31:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 01:38:36
EDIT: Link for those that dont have images enabled.
Then why the f.u.c.k don't they listen, change and stop taking flak?
CCP have a real problem with selective hearing.
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:34:00 -
[126]
Christ. With his wording I'd say he definately needs to be fired. Such blatant disregard for customers is terrible!
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The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Captain Futur3
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:43:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Danatious
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 01:38:36
EDIT: Link for those that dont have images enabled.
This is a joke, isnt it???
Man this game is really going down (in flames). Still no response from CCP...
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Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:43:00 -
[128]
Such a nice super egocentric greedy guy. What does he think he is, some kind of god? He is a sad little pathetic loser!
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Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Master Skipper
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:49:00 -
[129]
Calling navy seals right now.
Oh and why bury you at sea when there are so many nice volcanoes in iceland.
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Hastrin
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:57:00 -
[130]
Fired for talking to random site
promoted if hes gonna be the dev that actually starts talking to the community instead of answering a random site and not the community that drives the company
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Spookyjay
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:00:00 -
[131]
FIre then burned at the stake. then fired again. and finally put in charge of Iceland economy not eve's i think his country needs his money making scams more than we do
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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:01:00 -
[132]
There is already a thread on that subject. Please keep the discussion there.
Thread locked.
Spitfire
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Fearsome Engine
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:02:00 -
[133]
Ok you people seriously need to chill the **** out. Saying Soundwave should be burned alive or thrown off a roof? Have you even stopped to see what you all sound like? Its a ****ing game and you people are acting like he just ****d a kid. I hope the lot of you quit because the idea of playing the same game as you makes me feel almost physically sick.
And just in case you hadn't noticed, the only thing he is guilty of is saying what HE thinks. It's not company policy he's repeating, nor is he solely in charge of where CCP take this game, he is just one small cog in a big machine, maybe you lot need to remember that.
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