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Javelin6
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:04:00 -
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Tippia thank you for your excellent response that sums up what most of think.
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html ______________________________________________
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Mamayev Kurgan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:09:00 -
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+1 Monocle! (that's way more than 1)
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Dr Jan Itor
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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Read this earlier. +1
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Khamelean
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:26:00 -
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Supported, while i don't agree on all points, it is good to see clearly defined constructive criticism.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:38:00 -
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Thank you.  ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |

Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Thank you. 
Good post, I'd keep your head down ATM though. CCP have lost the plot.
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Tichu Tilyon
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Javelin6 Tippia thank you for your excellent response that sums up what most of think.
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
Well written, and it touches all the problems!
GJ Tippia
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Town Bike
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:46:00 -
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Really good job.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:47:00 -
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Very well worded as always bud. 
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:47:00 -
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+1
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:48:00 -
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Btw, Tippia, you still owe me cab money. *runs away laughing*
Jokes aside, that is a fantastically well put together post. Huge kudos! ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Solstice Project
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Solstice Project on 24/06/2011 17:51:18 *thumbsup* ^^
How do i do a thumbsup ?
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Mia Aires
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:50:00 -
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+1 Tippia
I'm looking through my monocle and I see a future with you and John Turbefield abreast
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Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Thank you. 
Lets meet up in game to discuss this and other concerns.
Yours,
Frau Klaps ~~~
(ಠ_ృ)
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jk scowling
Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:51:00 -
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Well written.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:52:00 -
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+1
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Frau Klaps
Originally by: Tippia Thank you. 
Lets meet up in game to discuss this and other concerns.
Yours,
Frau Klaps
You'd like that, wouldn't youà meanies!  ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |

Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Frau Klaps
Originally by: Tippia Thank you. 
Lets meet up in game to discuss this and other concerns.
Yours,
Frau Klaps
You'd like that, wouldn't youà meanies! 
An older autistic boy made me do it 
(P sure he is younger than me) ~~~
(ಠ_ృ)
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Cameron Freerunner
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:56:00 -
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Good read.
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Aessaya
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:06:00 -
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Thank you for this. Now we have to think on how to get this to CCP. Maybe print it out on a hardcopy and snailmail it to their HQ in iceland? Will take some time for sure, but sure would make a point!
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:17:00 -
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hell and now we only have Tippia
I'm gonna miss Liang ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Bantros
Noir.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Next on the chopping board
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Teinyhr
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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So he ends his words in "You no longer have the confidence of the community."
I'd appreciate if you wouldn't put your words in my mouth, Tippia. CCP still has my vote of confidence, as it always has had.
I do appreciate if players put pressure on the game developers on not living up to their promises, but 99% of this **** is "**** CCP" "I'm quitting and taking my bazillion accounts with me", generally meaningless rage and even (likely meaningless) death threats, but that's bit too serious for internet spaceships in any case. So good for you Tippia trying to voice your opinions in a nice way. But I'd still appreciate if you and other people wouldn't assume they're talking for all the community, when in fact they're not.
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Ay Liz
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Yeah, this pretty much sums up all my issues and concerns regarding Incarna and the possible future.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:28:00 -
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Just have read it, great writing. Lives up to your reputation - at least my personal one . Congrats and thanks for good job.
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Futile Attractor
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
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+1
Somehow Incarna has introduced 0 lag to my CQ experience and a constant stutter to my spaceship flying experience.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia's sig ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Indeed 
They could have actually sold it to us, slowly, if they would have proceeded very carefully and started extremely cautiously, with some things that would draw people in at minimal prices... but most importantly, without screwing up a lot of other things in the process just to promote the "environment" in which all of the hurried, overpriced ones were first introduced. But since they hurried like mad (not even getting the damn stuff to work right for everything that would have been nice to have) and used ridonkulous prices (seriously...) and didn't even bother to really take their own colleague's objections into account properly (see leaked newsletter), we're faced with the crapstorm of the past few days.
That quote above says about as much but in far less words. The link in the OP says mostly the same but in far, far, far more words. READ IT !
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr So he ends his words in "You no longer have the confidence of the community."
I'd appreciate if you wouldn't put your words in my mouth, Tippia. CCP still has my vote of confidence, as it always has had.
I do appreciate if players put pressure on the game developers on not living up to their promises, but 99% of this **** is "**** CCP" "I'm quitting and taking my bazillion accounts with me", generally meaningless rage and even (likely meaningless) death threats, but that's bit too serious for internet spaceships in any case. So good for you Tippia trying to voice your opinions in a nice way. But I'd still appreciate if you and other people wouldn't assume they're talking for all the community, when in fact they're not.
He said "the community". Not you. While you are a part of the community, clearely the community as a whole definately does not trust CCP anymore. I see where you are coming from, but in this case I agree with Tippia. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr So he ends his words in "You no longer have the confidence of the community." I'd appreciate if you wouldn't put your words in my mouth, Tippia. CCP still has my vote of confidence, as it always has had. [...]
To be fair, until 2-3 years ago, making money hasn't stopped them from delivering what was, for better or worse, one of the best if not the best MMOs of that day. In spite of a slow but heavy shift from "game first, cash second" to "cash first, game second", it still is one of the better MMOs of today. I would not dare to call it "the best" anymore though, not at this time. And even calling it "one of the best" already starts feeling a tad bit forced. The big problem is, CCP seems to be caught in a situation where external forces make them emphasize the "cash" part more and more at the detriment of the "game" part, and there's not much of a chance of it stopping, let alone reversing in time to have EVE remain in the top of desirable MMO experiences. It might take a couple more years for sure, and they MIGHT pass this hurdle... or they might not.
The question is, how could they go from a "build it right and they will come, and they will pay for it handsomely" mentality towards an even dangerously close to a "build something shiny and advertise it heavily hoping somebody comes, and fleece them for all they got" approach in such a relatively short amount of time ? And do we, as the OLD customers, still trust them to stop and go back ? I sadly doubt that. The big problem however is... do you really think they'll really miss us, financially speaking ? If anything, this would encourage them to push in the "morally wrong" direction even more to cover the lost revenue, and they MIGHT ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF. If they can pull it off, and new (slightly more ADD-ed) blood replaces and surpasses the cashflow volume that the old guard could have ever provided, do you think they'll ever have a reason to go back ?
Sadly, this is a lose-lose situation for the players. And not really much we can do about it. Eve is not dead, it's not dying either, but it's turning into something we no longer like so much anymore. Then again, what isn't ? _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:52:00 -
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thank you Tippia
however as you stated in your document, CCP has created such a disconnect with it's community that I doubt this will be not only read, but understood by the right people. your words of advice I feel speak for the majority of the complaining right now. I get where ccp are going and appreciate what they are trying to do, but the way they're going there will lose what got them their income/game in the first place.
good effort. if only they'd listen/read.
IMO, if this is to be heard by CCP higher ups, your document needs to be presented to them in the form of a round table.
see if you could get the CSM involved.
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