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Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.24 21:35:00 - [1] why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it
Zaphod Jones Minmatar The Wyld Hunt Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 - [2] Damn you, damn you to hell, you've made me agree with a PL person ! ... where do I apply ? Zaphod's Sig Shop
Starlight Twilight Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.24 22:27:00 - [3] I am agreeing with a non-person from pandemic legion on the issue at hand O o /»________________________ \| LAAZZZAAARRRRRRZZZZ!!!!!!!!! \_»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Doris Dents Kismet Inc	Posted - 2011.06.24 22:34:00 - [4] sorry gobbins but eve is and will always be a crap game
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 12:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Doris Dents sorry gobbins but eve is and will always be a crap game /eve/ was never good b
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:07:00 - [6] hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:10:00 - [7] Now I also agree with someone who is in PL and was in ACSN, what the hell have you done to me? Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Esu Nahalas Yote Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:10:00 - [8] There should be an icon next to your forum avatar that indicates how many times you've ragequit in the past.
Johny Fuckkin Dango	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:11:00 - [9] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting half will resubb before the game time runs out
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Johny **kin Dango Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting half will resubb before the game time runs out You keep telling yourself that.

Johny Fuckkin Dango	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:15:00 - [11] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius Originally by: Johny **kin Dango Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting half will resubb before the game time runs out You keep telling yourself that. oh plz prove me wrong. then i wont have to see ur **** posting every day in the fourms
Klymer	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:16:00 - [12] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting OMG thats terrible ...oh wait I just logged in and there are 35 THOUSAND players on the server. get over yourselves, I have and so has ccp
robbyx	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:17:00 - [13] Fail PL noob is fail...or have you already been kicked for playing dress up ? http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1533683
Ben Dourion	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:18:00 - [14] Well, that was clearly the post of a very mature and adult person, obviously ....
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:19:00 - [15] Edited by: Ghengis Tia on 25/06/2011 13:20:27 Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it I've unsubbed, so bite me, plankton. Some of us quietly put our money where our mouth is, instead of being flaming punks and loudmouths critical of our efforts.
Bklyn 1	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:19:00 - [16] No, I've been here since about a year after launch and I've never seen anything even remotely close to this. Either you weren't paying attention or you purchased your character.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Are you upset that there are so many protest post of the forums? You could do what CCP seems to do and bury your head in the sand and pretend it's not happening.
Gulliver Rex	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:20:00 - [18] I don't fancy a monocle, but I would really really love if they put that fabulous PL shirt on NeX (the brown one that Snooze was wearing at AT). I'd pay 10000 AURUM for it. You guys are the best.
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:21:00 - [19] After hearing Zulu sob away about poor Soundwave, I dont think anyone has the right to say "HTFU" on either side. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Spyres	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:23:00 - [20] Edited by: Spyres on 25/06/2011 13:23:06 Originally by: Admiral Goberius get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP Reminds me of Chamberlain at the Munich Agreement.

Carmoisine Bavaire	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Ghengis Tia Edited by: Ghengis Tia on 25/06/2011 13:20:27 Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it I've unsubbed, so bite me, plankton. Some of us quietly put our money where our mouth is, instead of being flaming punks and loudmouths critical of our efforts. Then FFS log off allready. Put your mouth where you put your money, and stop pretending you put any effort into it.
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Johny **kin Dango Originally by: LtCol Laurentius Originally by: Johny **kin Dango Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting half will resubb before the game time runs out You keep telling yourself that. oh plz prove me wrong. then i wont have to see ur **** posting every day in the fourms Oh dont worry Johny. My sub runs out in 5 days so you will get your wish.
Centaur Centurion	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:26:00 - [23] Edited by: Centaur Centurion on 25/06/2011 13:26:01 Originally by: Katra Novac Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you **bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Are you upset that there are so many protest post of the forums? You could do what CCP seems to do and bury your head in the sand and pretend it's not happening. This fits perfectly :-) To all these flamming fagts go bury your head in ground and pretend there is nothing instead of behaving like immature* kids. Follow CCP example and do it aswell like brave sheeps.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:26:00 - [24] Gobs, I'm going to give you a serious reply. EVE is dead. Not now, but those leaks were the one two knockout punch combination. It will take time but this was EVE's NGE moment. In a year or less you will be playing in a very empty universe, if CCP still exists by then because their financial information is not rosy enough to predict that they can ride out this storm. If that's your thing and you're ok with that, fine. It's your time and your game. o7 --------------------- Countdown to sub running out: 8 days.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:27:00 - [25] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting How many have biomassed? Next to none? Ok. snicker
Carmoisine Bavaire	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Spyres Edited by: Spyres on 25/06/2011 13:23:06 Originally by: Admiral Goberius get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP Reminds me of Chamberlain at the Munich Agreement. No it doesnt! Its just that was your only lame excuse to bring WWII into the discussion, and it was a pretty lame one...I have seen much more inventive referances to that stuff in ohh so many posts today. You Sir, is a Failure, and most likely a spergelord (whatever that is)
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:27:00 - [27] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting So "only" 363375 subscriptions left however shall they survive! Would make sense, even symbolically, if the rage-quit was based on actual fact/practise but as it is based on paranoid mass hysteria the shame those people will feel when their brains start working again could conceivably bless the world with 1500 and counting more people who have learned to temper their hearts with their minds.
Vawd Caldari Proficient Armament Solutions Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:29:00 - [28] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting Oh man. 2k accounts at most (probably an exaggerated number anyway) If these crybabies want to leave, let them, who cares?
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:30:00 - [29] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting So "only" 363375 subscriptions left however shall they survive! Would make sense, even symbolically, if the rage-quit was based on actual fact/practise but as it is based on paranoid mass hysteria the shame those people will feel when their brains start working again could conceivably bless the world with 1500 and counting more people who have learned to temper their hearts with their minds. I am sure CCPs financial situation right now have no problem loosing a few thousand subs.
Gulliver Rex	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:30:00 - [30] I think the problem with Eve is fitting, and poor piloting skills. Shazzam's supercarrier can easily fit a squadron of Drakes. Why can't you newbs do it? Armor repairs, that is why! Use nanite paste, you ignorant pricks.

Miagi Sans Amarr PURgE-Corp PURgE Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:32:00 - [31] guarantee almost everyone on the "quit list" are disposable alts...and will continue playing. hate disagreeing with PL but its true.
Cyber Duck	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:33:00 - [32] Edited by: Cyber Duck on 25/06/2011 13:33:46 Hey PL Noob.... Your CSM delegate agrees with us... HTFU Linkage
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Miagi Sans guarantee almost everyone on the "quit list" are disposable alts...and will continue playing. hate disagreeing with PL but its true. Im no alt. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Zakarazor Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:39:00 - [34] Edited by: Zakarazor on 25/06/2011 13:38:53 Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Miagi Sans guarantee almost everyone on the "quit list" are disposable alts...and will continue playing. hate disagreeing with PL but its true. Im no alt. Neither am i, 18 day of sub left. Reason to why i dont biomass right now is some some small hope that CCP will see what they are doing to their game with this direction they are moving in.
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:39:00 - [35] Edited by: LtCol Laurentius on 25/06/2011 13:44:10 2000 accounts gone and counting And it doesnt realy matter if they are alts. Its still lost money for CCP. With EVE Online essentially their only sorurce of income for at least another year, and obvisous signs of money desperation allready showing in CCPs actions lately, I think it is safe to assume that even a few thousand accounts gone will have a very real impact.
Esu Nahalas Yote Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:45:00 - [36] Originally by: Bomberlocks In a year or less you will be playing in a very empty universe, if CCP still exists by then . . . . If CCP still exists by then, that will be friggin' AWESOME
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:09:00 - [37] Originally by: Bomberlocks Gobs, I'm going to give you a serious reply. EVE is dead. Not now, but those leaks were the one two knockout punch combination. It will take time but this was EVE's NGE moment. In a year or less you will be playing in a very empty universe, if CCP still exists by then because their financial information is not rosy enough to predict that they can ride out this storm. If that's your thing and you're ok with that, fine. It's your time and your game. o7 All the leak show is that CCP is willing to carry out unpopular choices to fulfill their vision and that is a good thing imo. 50% of the playerbase could quit and the game would still be playable, just like it was playable back in the days. You can get :mad: all you want about letters and leaks but all they say is that they want to get money using microtransaction (nothing wrong with that) and that, so far, they are not denying the possibility of non-vanity items. So there is the possibility that in the future something very wrong might happen. But right now none of this happened, just some dumb monocle everyone is mad about. Compare this to past scandals and it is nothing: - T20 - mongoo bug - nano nerf - 0.0 changes ecc... The larger uproar you see is simply due to more people playing eve now, and a lot of folks bittervetting because their 0.0 powerblock just died. So it is more of an excuse than anything else. Originally by: Cyber Duck Edited by: Cyber Duck on 25/06/2011 13:33:46 Hey PL Noob.... Your CSM delegate agrees with us... HTFU Linkage The PL CSM is Elise Randolph aka Boss Pete. Try again.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:17:00 - [38] Why does PL not try to win the alliance tournament like in the past few years? Maybe CCP will give out monocles instead of Frekis for you. See if you can exchange them for Titans. --
Lyris Nairn Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:20:00 - [39] oh hey look it's pl (please don't drop a titan on my drake :ohdear:)
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Lyris Nairn oh hey look it's pl (please don't drop a titan on my drake :ohdear:) sup bro remember when your plan was destroy eve? what happened meighters

Cyber Duck	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:31:00 - [41] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Bomberlocks Gobs, I'm going to give you a serious reply. EVE is dead. Not now, but those leaks were the one two knockout punch combination. It will take time but this was EVE's NGE moment. In a year or less you will be playing in a very empty universe, if CCP still exists by then because their financial information is not rosy enough to predict that they can ride out this storm. If that's your thing and you're ok with that, fine. It's your time and your game. o7 All the leak show is that CCP is willing to carry out unpopular choices to fulfill their vision and that is a good thing imo. 50% of the playerbase could quit and the game would still be playable, just like it was playable back in the days. You can get :mad: all you want about letters and leaks but all they say is that they want to get money using microtransaction (nothing wrong with that) and that, so far, they are not denying the possibility of non-vanity items. So there is the possibility that in the future something very wrong might happen. But right now none of this happened, just some dumb monocle everyone is mad about. Compare this to past scandals and it is nothing: - T20 - mongoo bug - nano nerf - 0.0 changes ecc... The larger uproar you see is simply due to more people playing eve now, and a lot of folks bittervetting because their 0.0 powerblock just died. So it is more of an excuse than anything else. Originally by: Cyber Duck Edited by: Cyber Duck on 25/06/2011 13:33:46 Hey PL Noob.... Your CSM delegate agrees with us... HTFU Linkage The PL CSM is Elise Randolph aka Boss Pete. Try again. This statement makes people realise how out of touch you really are.
Gulliver Rex	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:34:00 - [42] I think they should put EVE on PS3. Don't get me wrong, I can run multiple clients -- CQ environment loaded -- just fine on my laptop (I have nVidia chip, lolz), but I would much rather sit on my sofa, and watch it on plasma TV, 52". Could you please ask them why are they focusing resources on developing NeX, which btw is nice, when they could make the game PS3 compatible instead. If they are really interested in attracting new players, why not the untapped consoles market? Thanks, Gulliver Rex
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:35:00 - [43] 2300 accounts gone and counting
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:39:00 - [44] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting We don't need these hobos anyway (c)
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Sarmatiko Edited by: Sarmatiko on 25/06/2011 14:39:29 Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2300 accounts gone and counting We don't need these hobos anyway (c) Cant really argue with you there. I am sure CCP wont miss the money either.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:46:00 - [46] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2300 accounts gone and counting EVE will be a better place without them. Petty, self important, inbreeds that they are. Why do you pathetic forum **s continue to insist that you have any effect on the actual game beyond providing me with a constant source of amusement with your idiot antics. No matter. A new group complete ****s will quickly fill in the tiny IQ slot that you morons will leave. Mr Epeen
Prez21 D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Im not sure if your just being ignorant or just trying to play the cool kid, who is above everyone else and knows whats really going off and how this will play out. Yes ccp is right when it ignores alot of the idiots that spew garbage all over the forums without any real thought about what they are saying and in the past it usually been the right thing to do, but ccp isnt the same people who made this game great, there out of touch with the game, i would be surprised if most of them had a clue on how there own game works at the minute. I understand that ccp needs to make a profit but the direction this game is heading is a joke, its already pretty boring and predictable as it is but its getting much worse and for a player who has been around so long like yourself if your happy with the direction eve is heading then your an idiot who never appreciated how great a game was and are just a gloryfied fanboy.
Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:52:00 - [48] Any thread that opens with swears is bound to be well thought out and intelligent.
Cuko	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:01:00 - [49] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you *bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it This whole thing is silly! I don't realy care about Incarna or AUR. You dont need to buy E-shirts or E-boots, so why are these people mad (**ed)? The only thing i do care about is my bro (Hellicity Boson) getting banned (over his random rage). The second CCP started banning people for speaking their minds, I got angry. The whole thing is just **ed E-rage of bitter veterans and nothing more. The minute I logged into the new expansion, the Novelty factor quickly faded. I disabled the station environment and went back to internet spaceships and smoking my spliff. So free HELL, CCP, INCARNA AND ** AUR! -proxyyyy
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Prez21 I understand that ccp needs to make a profit but the direction this game is heading is a joke, its already pretty boring and predictable as it is but its getting much worse and for a player who has been around so long like yourself if your happy with the direction eve is heading then your an idiot who never appreciated how great a game was and are just a gloryfied fanboy. I like the work they are doing with the game tbh. Their constant work on making fleet fights playable is showing off, as I am sure you could experience in the north, and the upcoming time dilation looks like a great way to make fights fair and strategic again. I also like the work they did rebalancing titans and moongold before that. Yeah it took a while but by the same process I believe they will fix supercaps and tech eventually. I general I like the fact they are still willing to make big changes to the game to fix it. I dont care about incarna, to me it seems like a way to reach to new playerbases and I dont mind that. More people to shoot or fly with. It is pretty obvious that most people who already accepted to play a game with no walking avatars will not care about incarna, that is not the point of this expansion.

Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:27:00 - [51] <3 Gobbins HABIT
Prez21 D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:31:00 - [52] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Prez21 I understand that ccp needs to make a profit but the direction this game is heading is a joke, its already pretty boring and predictable as it is but its getting much worse and for a player who has been around so long like yourself if your happy with the direction eve is heading then your an idiot who never appreciated how great a game was and are just a gloryfied fanboy. I like the work they are doing with the game tbh. Their constant work on making fleet fights playable is showing off, as I am sure you could experience in the north, and the upcoming time dilation looks like a great way to make fights fair and strategic again. I also like the work they did rebalancing titans and moongold before that. Yeah it took a while but by the same process I believe they will fix supercaps and tech eventually. I general I like the fact they are still willing to make big changes to the game to fix it. I dont care about incarna, to me it seems like a way to reach to new playerbases and I dont mind that. More people to shoot or fly with. It is pretty obvious that most people who already accepted to play a game with no walking avatars will not care about incarna, that is not the point of this expansion. I dont disagree that they have made massive steps improving gameplay and lag, but thats not the reason people are upset, i never started playing eve because i hoped that one day i would be able to work round stations so incarna means nothing to me, the price of vanity items means nothing to me, but the possibility of pay2win items being introduced and ccp general attitude towards its members over this issue is a massive disappointment. I cant believe that you would be happy if pay2win items were introduced? I know its not definite but ccp need to address this problem, and they also need to start giving us actual in game content. im sure incarna might appeal to a different audience but the current community are the people who got eve to where it is and ccp needs to remember that.
Messy Beaver	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:36:00 - [53] Lol fail emotard who only plays eve for the tournament and couldnt even get his team thru the pre qualifiers.
Gulliver Rex	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:39:00 - [54] Enter Philosopy Minor (Admiral's boyfriend), pulcher et fortissimus. Ciao Bello!
ExcalibursTemplar Caldari Citadel Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:45:00 - [55] Originally by: Klymer Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting OMG thats terrible ...oh wait I just logged in and there are 35 THOUSAND players on the server. get over yourselves, I have and so has ccp Theres normally around 50,000 players on around this time at the weekend. Also a good chunk of the players that are online are protesting one way or another. Originally by: Gothikia If he shoots CCP Soundwave in the face, I'll tongue his gonads. No joke.
Ramma Lamma DingDong	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:46:00 - [56] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2300 accounts gone and counting How many of those biomassed? Thought so...
Raven God Texas Inc. THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:47:00 - [57] Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius? You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints? Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying.
ExcalibursTemplar Caldari Citadel Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Gulliver Rex I think they should put EVE on PS3. Don't get me wrong, I can run multiple clients -- CQ environment loaded -- just fine on my laptop (I have nVidia chip, lolz), but I would much rather sit on my sofa, and watch it on plasma TV, 52". Could you please ask them why are they focusing resources on developing NeX, which btw is nice, when they could make the game PS3 compatible instead. If they are really interested in attracting new players, why not the untapped consoles market? Thanks, Gulliver Rex Thats actually a bloody good suggestion EVE isnt like an fps where us pc users would destroy them. Port eve over to the PS3 CCP and ** microtransactions off problems solved. Originally by:** Gothikia If he shoots CCP Soundwave in the face, I'll tongue his gonads. No joke.
Carmoisine Bavaire	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 - [59] Edited by: Carmoisine Bavaire on 25/06/2011 15:51:11 Originally by: Prez21 Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Prez21 I understand that ccp needs to make a profit but the direction this game is heading is a joke, its already pretty boring and predictable as it is but its getting much worse and for a player who has been around so long like yourself if your happy with the direction eve is heading then your an idiot who never appreciated how great a game was and are just a gloryfied fanboy. I like the work they are doing with the game tbh. Their constant work on making fleet fights playable is showing off, as I am sure you could experience in the north, and the upcoming time dilation looks like a great way to make fights fair and strategic again. I also like the work they did rebalancing titans and moongold before that. Yeah it took a while but by the same process I believe they will fix supercaps and tech eventually. I general I like the fact they are still willing to make big changes to the game to fix it. I dont care about incarna, to me it seems like a way to reach to new playerbases and I dont mind that. More people to shoot or fly with. It is pretty obvious that most people who already accepted to play a game with no walking avatars will not care about incarna, that is not the point of this expansion. I dont disagree that they have made massive steps improving gameplay and lag, but thats not the reason people are upset, i never started playing eve because i hoped that one day i would be able to work round stations so incarna means nothing to me, the price of vanity items means nothing to me, but the possibility of pay2win items being introduced and ccp general attitude towards its members over this issue is a massive disappointment. I cant believe that you would be happy if pay2win items were introduced? I know its not definite but ccp need to address this problem, and they also need to start giving us actual in game content. im sure incarna might appeal to a different audience but the current community are the people who got eve to where it is and ccp needs to remember that. What, are you afraid NC dot will no longer be the premier pay2win Alliance ? Yeah, cause all of you grew your own cap pilots, and built the ships from ore you mined yourself!
Prez21 D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:53:00 - [60] Originally by: Carmoisine Bavaire Edited by: Carmoisine Bavaire on 25/06/2011 15:51:11 Originally by: Prez21 Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Prez21 I understand that ccp needs to make a profit but the direction this game is heading is a joke, its already pretty boring and predictable as it is but its getting much worse and for a player who has been around so long like yourself if your happy with the direction eve is heading then your an idiot who never appreciated how great a game was and are just a gloryfied fanboy. I like the work they are doing with the game tbh. Their constant work on making fleet fights playable is showing off, as I am sure you could experience in the north, and the upcoming time dilation looks like a great way to make fights fair and strategic again. I also like the work they did rebalancing titans and moongold before that. Yeah it took a while but by the same process I believe they will fix supercaps and tech eventually. I general I like the fact they are still willing to make big changes to the game to fix it. I dont care about incarna, to me it seems like a way to reach to new playerbases and I dont mind that. More people to shoot or fly with. It is pretty obvious that most people who already accepted to play a game with no walking avatars will not care about incarna, that is not the point of this expansion. I dont disagree that they have made massive steps improving gameplay and lag, but thats not the reason people are upset, i never started playing eve because i hoped that one day i would be able to work round stations so incarna means nothing to me, the price of vanity items means nothing to me, but the possibility of pay2win items being introduced and ccp general attitude towards its members over this issue is a massive disappointment. I cant believe that you would be happy if pay2win items were introduced? I know its not definite but ccp need to address this problem, and they also need to start giving us actual in game content. im sure incarna might appeal to a different audience but the current community are the people who got eve to where it is and ccp needs to remember that. What, are you afraid NC dot will no longer be the premier pay2win Alliance ? Yeah, cause all of you grew your own cap pilots, and built the ships from ore you mined yourself! Go away bitter alt, i know we probably just took your space and your rmt income but dont come spewing your bitter garbage in this thread plz, thx

LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:54:00 - [61] Edited by: LtCol Laurentius on 25/06/2011 15:54:51 Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2300 accounts gone and counting How many of those biomassed? Thought so... Well, biomassed or not doenst really matter now, does it? This isnt about players emoragequitting never to return ever ever ever. This is about denying CCP income they desperatly need to keep the company in business. Right now CCP operates on a thin profit margin. Huge expenses associated with development of two new games, and EVE online beeing their sole source of revenue for at LEAST another year. Most unsubs still love EVE online to the death, and if this is what it takes to make CCP see reason, so be it. And if they dont.... well, the biomass option will still be around.
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:56:00 - [62] Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2300 accounts gone and counting How many of those biomassed? Thought so... No, they canceled their subscription. And once they finally come to the realization that EVE is still the best damn MMO out there, MT or no MT, they'll come back. Or to paraphraze Hillmar: "Actions speak louder than words" HABIT
Cashcow Golden Goose	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:57:00 - [63] Posting in a stealth Hydrabreak thread.
Sandwich PvP Furian Necromongers	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:01:00 - [64] Gob, don't be a nub, the pubbies have no clue what is going on, they still think CCP is feeding them steak, not horse****.... Sort by what?
Malice Redeemer	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 - [65] Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:03:09 Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:02:53 We didn't all leave the day they started to f'up SWG but its still dead. And it was a better game then eve before they started to muck it all up I will not play this game again unless they denounce pay CCP to win and restore the hanger view.
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 - [66] Originally by: Raven God Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius? You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints? Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying. yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with
Rockstar from Mars	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:05:00 - [67] Originally by: Admiral Goberius I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with Thats pretty much the WHOLE *****fest. If no one thought that then there would no one whining.
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 - [68] Originally by: Malice Redeemer Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:03:09 Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:02:53 We didn't all leave the day they started to f'up SWG but its still dead. And it was a better game then eve before they started to muck it all up I will not play this game again unless they denounce pay CCP to win and restore the hanger view. SWG was completely changed, all that happened here so far was the introduction of a monocle, and the implication of nuclear disasters to come, because of a leaked newsletter. Also SWG didnt die until several years later.
Mallak Azaria	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 - [69] Unless those 2300 accounts biomassed or gave away all their stuff, they will return within a couple of months. their current rage quit means nothing. MT is the future of MMO's and to date, has never given people an advantage over other players in a non-voluntary subscription MMO.
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:07:00 - [70] FREE KARTOON!!! Oh crap, wrong thread. ÇÇP stole my heart, damn you

Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:13:00 - [71] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Raven God Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius? You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints? Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying. yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this. Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a ** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70. Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting. I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this ** is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this.
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:23:00 - [72] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Raven God Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius? You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints? Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying. yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this. Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a ** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70. Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting. I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this. Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly. Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big ** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers. Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well.
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:31:00 - [73] We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays?
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:35:00 - [74] Originally by: Deja Thoris We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays? that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods?
Carmoisine Bavaire	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:36:00 - [75] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Raven God Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius? You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints? Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying. yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this. Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a ** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70. Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting. I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this. Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly. Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big ** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers. Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well. +1
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:39:00 - [76] Would suck to be one of these alliances sitting on lots of PLEX and tourney prizes I reckon. Not much to diversify into other than monocles Enjoy the trolls guys and enjoy cashing out (or trying to). I hear the RMT character xfer area out east is pretty saturated with offers. Even ones that don't involve paperclips. Troll on.
Hillside Strangler	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:40:00 - [77] Edited by: Hillside Strangler on 25/06/2011 16:41:01 Strongly Agree with OP
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:43:00 - [78] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Deja Thoris We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays? that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods? You misunderstand exclusiveness. It's exclusive if its hard to obtain or desirable for other reasons. Luxury hardbags or shoes for example, there is limited supply. This is normally coupled with high quality. Setting a high price on something doesn't automatically make it exclusive. They could spawn 3 billion monocles (and would if people bought them) How is that exclusive? Oh, it isn't.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:49:00 - [79] Edited by: Whitehound on 25/06/2011 16:49:09 Originally by: Admiral Goberius Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly. Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big **** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers. Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well. The devs do not take sides, but they do care for us and increasing the number of players is the best you can do as a dev for an MMO. If you want to complain about blobbing, then perhaps complain to those who blob you. No, wait, you just called them pubbies, right? Whatever ... MT however is not adding anything to the game play. All the code developed is just so CCP can sell crap to a few players. That code needs to be kept uptodate and will eat money for years to come, while at the same time it does nothing to attract new players to EVE. Or do you see players subscribing so they can wear monocles? They are unsubscribing as a matter of fact and because they do not want this crap. --
Sandslinger NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:50:00 - [80] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Yay Gobbins your among the common sense dudes Now get back to Exceed you traitor !!

Hatsumi Kobayashi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:54:00 - [81] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting so long o/ _____
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:57:00 - [82] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Deja Thoris We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays? that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods? You misunderstand exclusiveness. It's exclusive if its hard to obtain or desirable for other reasons. Luxury hardbags or shoes for example, there is limited supply. This is normally coupled with high quality. Setting a high price on something doesn't automatically make it exclusive. They could spawn 3 billion monocles (and would if people bought them) How is that exclusive? Oh, it isn't. Yes it is. Same concept applies to limited edition prints or collectors edition content. Basically you are free to pay more for something worthless. But it is silly to demand the price of this worthlesness to be reduced, it is literally set by the seller.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 - [83] Edited by: Whitehound on 25/06/2011 17:03:59 Originally by: Admiral Goberius Yes it is. Same concept applies to limited edition prints or collectors edition content. Basically you are free to pay more for something worthless. But it is silly to demand the price of this worthlesness to be reduced, it is literally set by the seller. These worthless items are however allowed to have a price in the EVE universe, because they can be sold and bought for ISKs. You can argue about having worthless items in the game (which I would object to). Introducing them and making them part of the market is going two steps too far for most players. Why not wear a monocole for real while you play EVE? They can still sell it at the fan store. But why make it part of the game when it does not contribute to any of the game mechanics? It is a waste of resources. --
Nessa Aldeen Caldari The Sword and The Shield	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 - [84] +1 to Gobs Scrubs + Whiners: By all means leave, all 2300 of you or more (so you claim, and they claim) the less of you, the more iskies I can hoar, and more monocles i can buy. Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of ***ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years. I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're ***ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc. The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go.
Savion Chastis	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:08:00 - [85] lol, whiteknighting PL
Rockstar from Mars	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [86] Originally by: Nessa Aldeen Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of ***ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years. I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're ***ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc. The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go. First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong. Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue. Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh?
Ludacrys	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:14:00 - [87] Edited by: Ludacrys on 25/06/2011 17:14:10 GOBBINS! dont be mad bro, im sure you and your friends can make it to at least the semifinals next year if you train hard
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:16:00 - [88] Originally by: Rockstar from Mars Originally by: Nessa Aldeen Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of ***ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years. I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're ***ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc. The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go. First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong. Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue. Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh? I dont see no MT ammo ingame do you? Whatever implications or scenario you want to create out of an out of context internal mail leak does not make it real. Also why would MT ammo be a problem at all? Do you think a fleet with MT ammo wouldnt get steamrolled by a bigger blob or a outplayed by a better FC? Then all you did was spend RL cash to give good loot to your enemies. Same with a possible MT ship, perhaps ransoms will be paid via paypal. Now that would be boss as hell.
DogFACE1	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:17:00 - [89] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it UMAD BRO?
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:19:00 - [90] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Rockstar from Mars Originally by: Nessa Aldeen Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of ***ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years. I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're ***ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc. The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go. First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong. Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue. Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh? I dont see no MT ammo ingame do you? Whatever implications or scenario you want to create out of an out of context internal mail leak does not make it real. Also why would MT ammo be a problem at all? Do you think a fleet with MT ammo wouldnt get steamrolled by a bigger blob or a outplayed by a better FC? Then all you did was spend RL cash to give good loot to your enemies. Same with a possible MT ship, perhaps ransoms will be paid via paypal. Now that would be boss as hell. Back in the day one dude got ransomed for a pizza. Having people pay real life cash for getting locked down would increase piracy mos'def. HABIT

Thinly Veiled	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:20:00 - [91] Sounds like he is still really mad for doing so badly at the tournament this year
Ong Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:20:00 - [92] 6/10
George Wilkes Hill	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:21:00 - [93] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Lol! This guys thinks he's great because he's in a well known alliance. LOL. You're funny guy. Go back to your hole in space which you think makes you a god.
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:31:00 - [94] Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Admiral Goberius Originally by: Deja Thoris We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays? that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods? You misunderstand exclusiveness. It's exclusive if its hard to obtain or desirable for other reasons. Luxury hardbags or shoes for example, there is limited supply. This is normally coupled with high quality. Setting a high price on something doesn't automatically make it exclusive. They could spawn 3 billion monocles (and would if people bought them) How is that exclusive? Oh, it isn't. Yes it is. Same concept applies to limited edition prints or collectors edition content. Basically you are free to pay more for something worthless. But it is silly to demand the price of this worthlesness to be reduced, it is literally set by the seller. Limited edition? How? they can churn out unlimited numbers. Stop using words like limited edition and exclusive when it is no such thing. One of us is missing the point here (hint - it isnt me)
Nessa Aldeen Caldari The Sword and The Shield	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:37:00 - [95] Ah, the whine continues from the witch-hunting ponehs. Go on then. Keep on protesting and biatching.. while you're at it.. just go to Biomass and quit. What Gobs said is right, you can scream like bieber all you want, but you will come crawling back coz this SPACE-POT has no equals. So keep on wasting time, resources, carbon footprint etc...in the meantime silent majority WILL lynch you lot soon.
Captain Bugsquash	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:40:00 - [96] Another one not effected. of course.
Lt Pizi Gallente Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:44:00 - [97] Originally by: Deja Thoris Limited edition? How? they can churn out unlimited numbers. Stop using words like limited edition and exclusive when it is no such thing. One of us is missing the point here (hint - it isnt me) the irony is that most of you WANT this items badly but momma wount buy it for you ... so you rage on and on and on
Rockstar from Mars	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:47:00 - [98] Originally by: Admiral Goberius I dont see no MT ammo ingame do you? Whatever implications or scenario you want to create out of an out of context internal mail leak does not make it real. Also why would MT ammo be a problem at all? Do you think a fleet with MT ammo wouldnt get steamrolled by a bigger blob or a outplayed by a better FC? Then all you did was spend RL cash to give good loot to your enemies. Same with a possible MT ship, perhaps ransoms will be paid via paypal. Now that would be boss as hell. And I hope it stays that way. That is all most of us want, for someone at CCP to say 'Your concerns are important to us and we are not planning on MT'ing game affecting items'. The vast majority of us would go back happy. And if you think that MT ammo wouldn't be anything negative because you could just 'outplay' them I wonder what you will be saying when you and your mates get ganked by a 5 day old noob in a faction BS ****ing out omni damage ammo. Worst case? Sure. But the point is that all things being equal (As it often is in the quality fights we all actually want) who comes out on top are often the people who fit better or had better cohesion. With the possibility for MT for ammo or whatever you will never have a 'balanced' fight again, which would be a crying shame.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:54:00 - [99] Originally by: Rockstar from Mars And I hope it stays that way. That is all most of us want, for someone at CCP to say 'Your concerns are important to us and we are not planning on MT'ing game affecting items'. The vast majority of us would go back happy... Yet that majority is STILL emo-raging and stinking up the place, as the email stated "look at what is done not said. CCP were willing to change plans for introducing the IW Scorpion and eventually scrapped said plans until further notice entirely because people were unhappy with "something from nothing" as they believed it broke the "only vanity" promise. Not really sure how much clearer their stance can get to be honest.
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:00:00 - [100] Originally by: Lt Pizi Originally by: Deja Thoris Limited edition? How? they can churn out unlimited numbers. Stop using words like limited edition and exclusive when it is no such thing. One of us is missing the point here (hint - it isnt me) the irony is that most of you WANT this items badly but momma wount buy it for you ... so you rage on and on and on Fail logic from a fail player in a fail corp using fail spelling. I owned a 425mm railgun II bpo when the guns sold for 16mill isk a pop. I could buy more monocles than you could rifters. "wount" el oh el - window licker.

Rockstar from Mars	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:04:00 - [101] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: Rockstar from Mars And I hope it stays that way. That is all most of us want, for someone at CCP to say 'Your concerns are important to us and we are not planning on MT'ing game affecting items'. The vast majority of us would go back happy... Yet that majority is STILL emo-raging and stinking up the place, as the email stated "look at what is done not said. CCP were willing to change plans for introducing the IW Scorpion and eventually scrapped said plans until further notice entirely because people were unhappy with "something from nothing" as they believed it broke the "only vanity" promise. Not really sure how much clearer their stance can get to be honest. I'm not really sure what you are saying but if you mean that CCP has admitted they will NOT be introducing game affecting MT then you are wrong. The only actual answer we have on that question is FALLOUT saying that he isn't in a position to answer that. But if there is someone else (Preferably someone ranking) who has said something to that affect recently please link it and I will be ecstatic.
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:11:00 - [102] Originally by: Deja Thoris Limited edition? How? they can churn out unlimited numbers. Stop using words like limited edition and exclusive when it is no such thing. One of us is missing the point here (hint - it isnt me) ok if it isnt you then it must be me? wtf I lost
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:12:00 - [103] Originally by: Rockstar from Mars Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: Rockstar from Mars And I hope it stays that way. That is all most of us want, for someone at CCP to say 'Your concerns are important to us and we are not planning on MT'ing game affecting items'. The vast majority of us would go back happy... Yet that majority is STILL emo-raging and stinking up the place, as the email stated "look at what is done not said. CCP were willing to change plans for introducing the IW Scorpion and eventually scrapped said plans until further notice entirely because people were unhappy with "something from nothing" as they believed it broke the "only vanity" promise. Not really sure how much clearer their stance can get to be honest. I'm not really sure what you are saying but if you mean that CCP has admitted they will NOT be introducing game affecting MT then you are wrong. The only actual answer we have on that question is FALLOUT saying that he isn't in a position to answer that. But if there is someone else (Preferably someone ranking) who has said something to that affect recently please link it and I will be ecstatic. like I said earlier itt, even if they added that **** it would still affect the game very marginally (see my previous reply)
John Fergus	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:14:00 - [104] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius hey pubbie 1500 accounts gone and counting hey pubbie 85 accounts purged from PL
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:19:00 - [105] Originally by: Rockstar from Mars ... But if there is someone else (Preferably someone ranking) who has said something to that affect recently please link it and I will be ecstatic. It is right there in the "Ships for $" thread, look it up yourself .. not hard to find. They go from wanting the scorpion to be available in Nex for months to a week to not until its painjob bpc only. By the way, going from "someone at CCP" to "someone preferably ranking" reveals that no answer will ever satisfy you thus your chances of getting one is slim to none .. discussion/debate is like poker, have to watch your cards like a hawk.
Falcus Aurelius	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:23:00 - [106] Originally by: Admiral Goberius why dont you ****ed sperging gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:" face it you ***bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~ get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP deal with it Quoting a guy that dosnt matter. Try to qualify for the tourney next year scrubs.
LtCol Laurentius Caldari Zor Industries	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:46:00 - [107] 2600 acounts and counting
Madjak Burton	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:51:00 - [108] Originally by: LtCol Laurentius 2600 acounts and counting suuuuuure.
Rockstar from Mars	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:54:00 - [109] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida By the way, going from "someone at CCP" to "someone preferably ranking" reveals that no answer will ever satisfy you thus your chances of getting one is slim to none .. discussion/debate is like poker, have to watch your cards like a hawk. Actually I never said 'someone at ccp' and then changed my statement to 'someone preferably ranking'. I would LIKE it it Hilmar himself came out and told us but I'd accept anyone who was in a position to say it. A discussion or debate is only like poker when you are trying to win at all costs. I don't frankly care if I look like an idiot - I'd rather that than to see eve become what a lot of us think it will.


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