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Aelius
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Aelius on 25/06/2011 11:25:35
All these leaked internal documents/e-mails can only mean one thing.
Some within CCP are not happy with the current state of things and are fighting back to bring the truth to us.
Those brave souls risk their job to defend EVE.
I salute you. 07 _________________________ CSM Candidate for 2011 (soon a pretty photoshop sig) Aelius 2011 Candidacy Guide Lines |

Fierceshot
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:17:00 -
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07
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Alexis Sachs
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:18:00 -
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Surely seems that some at CCP actually care about the history of EVE and what EVE has been to so many of us.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:18:00 -
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Yep, we know you're watching/reading, and we thank you for opening our eyes.
Hopefully some sort of change can be brought about however unlikely that may be ...oh wait
Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3 |

Londo Cebb
Official Market Discussions Troll
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:18:00 -
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07
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Cymo Pex
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:18:00 -
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o7
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cytex malrone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:19:00 -
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07 to the devs who stand by and want to see eve become great again you guys are great .
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r0t
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:20:00 -
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Or lulzsec got into some ****, and is ****ing with CCP hard.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:21:00 -
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O7
Keep being strong, guys. We are with you.
Do not let anyone destroy what you have built for years. [Petition] Make entry into CQ and Incarna optional. |

Defialed
Concentrated Evil
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:22:00 -
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o7 those Men and Women who are risking their jobs.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:23:00 -
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Keep strong!
For the sake of EVE and what it could be. |

Evalon Fury
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:24:00 -
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I have to agree.. Thank you for keeping us informed.. Its shameful that you had to.. just dont get caught..
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Houdian Black
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:25:00 -
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o7
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blah blah Kugisa
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:26:00 -
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Linkage
ôThe longer you stay the more it hurtsö
Pros The Reykjavik office is very family friendly and youÆll often find children running around the office. During lunch it is also acceptable to bring in spouses and children. If you have a family and want to spend additional time with them this could be a way.
ItÆs a place where anyone can get a start in the industry because turnover in departments like QA is still rather high. The way you talk matters more than your actual experience and you can take advantage of this during the interviews.
The Atlanta office is a different place and doesnÆt suffer from the serious unprofessionalism as much as the Reykjavik office. The sad thing is that they too pay the price by seeing their work halted for years at a time to jump ship and bandage EVE up.
Cons The lack of professionalism is mind blowing. Procedures that are common in other companies are not used here and considered a waste of time. There is no solid vision for EVE which leaves employees with no other option than to start work and find out what is wanted by trial and error, this is what CCP means with Agile development.
Fun game play is not a priority, promises made to investors and aesthetics are. æIf it looks good then it is goodÆ is an often heard motto. CCP is committed to use technology in EVE as well as WoD and DUST, so certain features are made and used in EVE knowing they will not be fun, nor fit EVE and no one expects them to be appreciated by the playerbase. Alienating the playerbase of EVE further. Objections from employees who point this out are waved away.
CCP does not take criticism well and often ignores retrospectives. Criticism is considered to be a negative attitude and is severely frowned upon. A lot of effort goes into maintaining a good morale with a lot of internal PR. After all itÆs cheaper to print posters than pay an average salary to employees.
Several years now CCP has predicated insane subscriber goals that cannot be met. Naturally this is met with scepticism by the employees but it falls on deaf ears. The result is that the company is suffering because we cannot sustain the development of EVE, DUST and WOD. EVE is not creating enough revenue which means that solutions are sought, solutions that CCP was vehemently against a few years ago.
Career progression is nonexistent unless you become friends with the right clique of people and use the right corporate buzzwords. Hard work is not something that will set you apart, most people work hard until they become so disillusioned as they realise it makes no difference and slack off.
Combine this with the below average pay (CCP pays 30% to 50% less than other companies) and youÆll often hear a lot of frustration when work is discussed outside of the office by people who have been here for some time. The longer you stay the less you start to care about the game you develope, because no one else does.
Advice to Senior Management Recruit very senior people from the games industry and actually listen to what they say. Stop believing your own hype.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:27:00 -
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Not so strange if this gives any indication on how things work internally.

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Honsu Hareka
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: r0t Or lulzsec got into some ****, and is ****ing with CCP hard.
CCP doesn't need lulzsec for that, CCP is fine on its own ;)
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Haulin Aussie
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:32:00 -
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07 to the CCP Employees doing us proud.
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kongking wang
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:32:00 -
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remember some of these people made this game for themselfs. they are part of the player base aswell as the creators. its their baby. they are fighting an internal rebelion to try and save our game.
good on them.
CCP motto's
If it dont work, dont fix it Ff its working, lets break it If it isnt needed, implement it If its wanted, ignore it
6 years to programme but 6 secs to turn it off...nice job wit |

GiveYourStuff
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:33:00 -
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Every company has at least 1 sense worker. Lets hope CCP has more..
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Loki Nahat
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: blah blah Kugisa Linkage
Crikey the other employer reviews are less than glowing too.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:34:00 -
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Doesn't surprise me, I even kind of expected it. Bound to be still a couple of EvE fans still working there.
But yes - I salute the whistle blowers too - good for you guys for enlightening many, many people.
This stuff had to come out, the community deserves to know what they are dealing with & supporting with their hard earned.
FU CCP DIAF 
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Onyx Blackman
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:34:00 -
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It's more likely that they're just incompetent. |

Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: r0t Or lulzsec got into some ****, and is ****ing with CCP hard.
Can't be them, this is more than a simple ddos-attack.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:55:00 -
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Pros
You get free lunch every day.

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Ervi
Gallente October Rain
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: blah blah Kugisa Linkage
ôThe longer you stay the more it hurtsö
Pros The Reykjavik office is very family friendly and youÆll often find children running around the office. During lunch it is also acceptable to bring in spouses and children. If you have a family and want to spend additional time with them this could be a way.
ItÆs a place where anyone can get a start in the industry because turnover in departments like QA is still rather high. The way you talk matters more than your actual experience and you can take advantage of this during the interviews.
The Atlanta office is a different place and doesnÆt suffer from the serious unprofessionalism as much as the Reykjavik office. The sad thing is that they too pay the price by seeing their work halted for years at a time to jump ship and bandage EVE up.
Cons The lack of professionalism is mind blowing. Procedures that are common in other companies are not used here and considered a waste of time. There is no solid vision for EVE which leaves employees with no other option than to start work and find out what is wanted by trial and error, this is what CCP means with Agile development.
Fun game play is not a priority, promises made to investors and aesthetics are. æIf it looks good then it is goodÆ is an often heard motto. CCP is committed to use technology in EVE as well as WoD and DUST, so certain features are made and used in EVE knowing they will not be fun, nor fit EVE and no one expects them to be appreciated by the playerbase. Alienating the playerbase of EVE further. Objections from employees who point this out are waved away.
CCP does not take criticism well and often ignores retrospectives. Criticism is considered to be a negative attitude and is severely frowned upon. A lot of effort goes into maintaining a good morale with a lot of internal PR. After all itÆs cheaper to print posters than pay an average salary to employees.
Several years now CCP has predicated insane subscriber goals that cannot be met. Naturally this is met with scepticism by the employees but it falls on deaf ears. The result is that the company is suffering because we cannot sustain the development of EVE, DUST and WOD. EVE is not creating enough revenue which means that solutions are sought, solutions that CCP was vehemently against a few years ago.
Career progression is nonexistent unless you become friends with the right clique of people and use the right corporate buzzwords. Hard work is not something that will set you apart, most people work hard until they become so disillusioned as they realise it makes no difference and slack off.
Combine this with the below average pay (CCP pays 30% to 50% less than other companies) and youÆll often hear a lot of frustration when work is discussed outside of the office by people who have been here for some time. The longer you stay the less you start to care about the game you develope, because no one else does.
Advice to Senior Management Recruit very senior people from the games industry and actually listen to what they say. Stop believing your own hype.
Good read, very objective!
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Maikeruko
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:58:00 -
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To the brave souls leaking documents to us, I salute you.
o7
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:06:00 -
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o7
Never give up guys and do not quit - argue your points, do everything you possibly can to make yourself heard, instead of being part of the herd.
You may feel downtrodden, but there are 350,000 of us! Stand up for yourself and us!
If we all quit and are replaced by the 'WoW' audience, your job will be centered around vanity items until the end of time. And customer support? Your job will change from handling lost ships to lost luggage, is that what you want? Is it?
It's not an easy thing to do, but if you want things to change, YOU need to make it happen.
You may not want to do this, but you will at least be able to look at yourself in the mirror with new-found selfrespect - the only kind of respect that means anything.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius All these leaked internal documents/e-mails can only mean one thing....
I beg to differ.
The "documents" does not in fact contain anything saying what the current direction of Eve is other than what has already been communicated through blogs/interviews.
Since they have no value the "leak" is about as noteworthy as the WikiLeaks one of some random embassy's grocery list.
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Monstress
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:15:00 -
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o7
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Varcaus
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:18:00 -
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07
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