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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.20 12:05:00 -
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Hi All.
I am new to EVE and I got an idea to besome a typical smuggler/slaver/pirate... but once I have strated my career I got several questions still unsolved.
First question is - slaves. Does it make sence get yourself involved into this business? Slaves costs 700 and max selling price I have found was 1000. So bascily 300 profit per one slave is very very cheap price compared to problems and risk. You can get more on missions/mining 8)
But maybe I am selling slave in a bad system?
Second question is - do I have ANY chance killing someone using a figate? As far as I saw a lot of people are using BS... And...what is a best ship for pirate?
Third question - smuggling. Narcotics are not very expencive. So what is a product which is worth smugglig?
All your suggestions regarding these issues will be appretiated!
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.20 12:32:00 -
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I cant help you with the smuggling or slaving part of your question. Regarding piracy: piracy in a frigate is possible but very hard to pull of alone. I'd advise either using a kestrel with 1mn mwd, web and scrambler or looking into using interceptors. A crow with a 20kms warpscrambler is possible and allows you to stay outside of web-range. A better bet for solo piracy would be to get yourself a high-end cruiser or battlecruiser.
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.20 20:41:00 -
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Thx! This information will help me.
I would like to ask you to give me a bit more detailed information plz. Which equpement exactly? Which ship exactly?
Thank you in advacnce!
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.20 23:34:00 -
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To start pirating I would adivse you to do the following:
Buy the following stuff (and skills to use it):
-Kestrel
-7.5 kms warpscrambler
-1mn MicroWarpdrive
-Webbifier
-4x Rocketlauncher
-1 cap power relay
-1 ballistic control or another cap power relay.
Fit all the stuff and put a mix of rockets into your launchers. Now set a course for the nearest system with a security status lower than 0.5 AND with players in space (use the map to display number of players in space).
When you arrive there you check local chat. If there are lots of other pirates there or lots of people from the same corporation just move on to the next system.
Once you've found a system with some potential customers it is time to find them. For this you can use the scanner. There should be some good threads in the forums about how to best use the scanner I suggest you read those first. Another method is simply warping from belt to belt until you have found someone.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.20 23:39:00 -
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When you dont have a bad security status people wont expect you to pirat them so you should be safe. What we are looking for since we're in a kestrel frigate is something we can kill. I suggest you steer clear of any cruisers that are not mining (using mining lasers and mining drones). Once you've located a nice target you fire up your mwd and start to orbit them at 4 or 5 kms. As you move towards them you target them when you are at around 15 kms. when you have a target lock you first activate your scrambler and then your webber. next up you start to fire rockets at them until they (or you) die. Since our target is probably a cheap cruiser or a frigate there is no need to try and get a ransom from them, just blow them to bits. Once they're blown up quickly orbit and target their escape capsule and warpscramble it. Once you have it warpscrambled you open up a convo to the customer and either ask him for money or say something witty. If he pays you let him go, if he doesn;t you blow him up.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.20 23:41:00 -
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Now at this point several things have happened. First your security status will have dropped dramatically (especially the podkilling has hurt your sec status). Second is that you are now 'Criminally Flagged', this means that for the next 15 minutes (20 to be sure) all players can fire at you and if you come close to a stargate or station the sentryguns will fry your shiny Kestrel. So you need to warp between belts and planets for some time.
Once your flag has gone you're once again safe to prowl the spacelanes. You are now officially a Pirate  .
Yarrr.
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 00:32:00 -
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Thanks again, this was a great pirate briffing indeed! 8)
I have one question left - how to deal with a strong but not pirate ships? I guess there is no chance dealing with them on a frigate? With battleship for example...
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.02.21 09:08:00 -
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its depends on their settings,
a 2 millions sp frigate fighter can take out a 10 m sp vetran in a bs if u know what his modules are u jsut need to counter them,.
just like sniping u got the shooter and the spotter get a friend to lock and scan ur target.
and whileur at the station quickly equip ur self to take advantage of his weack points
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.21 09:30:00 -
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Ya, but in normal circumstances you'd not be able to put a dent in a Battleship using a normal frigate. Your best bet would be to get the hell out and call in some buddies.
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 10:09:00 -
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Great info! Thanks! Now I will try to be a great pirate! At least I will have a good start... 8)
Thanks again!
P.S. - the only thing left - try to find answers on a slaves/smuggling issues...
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.02.21 11:48:00 -
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you can train to be an interceptor pilot its an eltite frig.
that with good skills you can cause 200+ damage to a ship
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.02.21 11:53:00 -
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 Originally by: JarmenKell
you can train to be an interceptor pilot its an eltite frig.
that with good skills you can cause 200+ damage to a ship
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.02.21 12:51:00 -
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Aah, it warms the*****les of my heart to see a Minmatar become a slaver
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 15:58:00 -
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Why? 8) Are we not up to it? 8)
Anyway - I still dont know the good system to sell slaves at.
Any suggestions where to find such? And what is a best item to smuggle anyway?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am new - and dont know many details yet.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.02.21 16:06:00 -
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slaves are contraband in all but amarr, and there is no way around it yet afaik.
As for a minnie becoming a slaver, well the minmatars are (or were) a slave race, slaves to the amarr. If you have read any of the back story you will find all this out
The guy from Pie Inc above you is a member of one of the better known (if not the best known) Roleplaying amarr corps. Curatores Veritatis Alliance (apologies if i spelt that wrong) is an amarr roleplaying alliance, with Ushra'Khan being the minmatar alliance.
Just a little bit of info there for you. Oh and if u intend to pirate in a frigate, expect to lose quite a few. Ask Doc, ive lost count of how many ceptors hes lost while pirating 
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.21 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Aah, it warms the*****les of my heart to see a Minmatar become a slaver
You have a heart now?
And don't try smuggling - without a faaaaast ship and good trading skills, you'll end up either losing money, your ship and your cargo to a Concord insta-gank or making veeery little money.
Be a man. Be a pirate.
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:34:00 -
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Heh! Thank you all for suggestions and remarks... 8)
Well, it is even better to know who I really am! 8) I do understand that killing people in space and then asking them for the fee for their life is a quick way to get some cash. But... as I am fond of a roleplaying myself it is always better to know what you really could do and how.
And I really got an idea that fast ship is a critical thing is smuggling but... problem is that my ship could make like 900 M/S on Afterburner but has a tiny hull (and here I loose 70K on slaves I even cant put to a ship), my huler can carry up to 6000+ but had a really small speed, so there is no way smuggling. What would you suggest me to do? What is a cargo worth smuggling? What a pirate can do exept killing people?
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.21 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Just a little bit of info there for you. Oh and if u intend to pirate in a frigate, expect to lose quite a few. Ask Doc, ive lost count of how many ceptors hes lost while pirating
Yarr, never pirate in a ship you cant afford to replace. Being a pirate is hard work and it is very difficult to really make money out of piracy. Those who tell you otherwise just have a mining als they're very ashamed of. Real pirates are poor, that's why we're allways on the prowl .
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 23:08:00 -
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So what is a main point? How much money you were gaining from one custumer?
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.21 23:16:00 -
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Depends really, if you're lucky enough to jump into a paying customer in a battleship or an old player in a pod you can easily get 30 million. From smalltimers in cruisers you could get 2-3 million max for ransomming their ship. The best surprises are when you kill somebody and find some nice loot in their cans, named cargo expanders or named guns can be worth quite a lot of money. But the bottom line is that piracy is unlikely to pay your bills.
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.21 23:36:00 -
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Can I ask why? I guess this is a money business after all. Will I be WANTED after I kill someone BTW?
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2005.02.21 23:41:00 -
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Most people have insured their ships and most of the targets you get when you start piracy are not very rich people. They will not pay you because they dont have money or because they dont want to pay.
Everytime you attack a ship your security status goes doen.
Everytime you destroy a ship your security status goes down even worse.
Everytime you blow up an escape pod your security status goes down like lead.
Once you've gone below -1.0 (I think) people are able to place a bounty on your head, you'll be 'Wanted' then. You should keep in mind though that once your security status goes below -1.8 you will no longer be allowed to enter 1.0 systems. The worse your security status gets the less systems you'll be allowed in. Once you hit -5.0 EVERYBODY can attack you ANYWHERE without concord coming over to help you out.
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2005.02.22 10:37:00 -
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Vicarrah adds Qurva Sinn's name to the Ushra'Khan potential slaver list
Vicarrah
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Captain Tycho
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Posted - 2005.02.22 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Qurva Sinn
Heh! Thank you all for suggestions and remarks... 8)
Well, it is even better to know who I really am! 8) I do understand that killing people in space and then asking them for the fee for their life is a quick way to get some cash. But... as I am fond of a roleplaying myself it is always better to know what you really could do and how.
And I really got an idea that fast ship is a critical thing is smuggling but... problem is that my ship could make like 900 M/S on Afterburner but has a tiny hull (and here I loose 70K on slaves I even cant put to a ship), my huler can carry up to 6000+ but had a really small speed, so there is no way smuggling. What would you suggest me to do? What is a cargo worth smuggling? What a pirate can do exept killing people?
Hmm well the best ship use for this is probably the probe as it has the biggest hold for a frig and also is quite fast also train minmatter frig to lvl 4
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Captain Tycho
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Posted - 2005.02.22 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vicarrah
Vicarrah adds Qurva Sinn's name to the Ushra'Khan potential slaver list
Hehe Qurva UR wanted already :P
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Qurva Sinn
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Posted - 2005.02.22 16:12:00 -
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Hi, Cap! 8) Not yet, as I am still gatharing details to start my carriere! 8)
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