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Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 19:35:00 - [1] ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think.
Maya2k	Posted - 2011.06.25 19:36:00 - [2] thats it! --------------------------- VOTING TO INCARNA: http://www.warpdriveactive.de/
MaxPiegn	Posted - 2011.06.25 19:52:00 - [3] Seriously... every plex you see on the market...was bought to BUY ships/guns/ammo. whats the problem?...eve isn't a solo game. I would like a rmt ship on a km. I agree that whatever the player is wearing should be on the km though. epic lulz when you calculate that you killed a 150 dollar pod.
Shadowstomp	Posted - 2011.06.25 19:55:00 - [4] Makes no sense that cloths stay with you when you die. Make them destroyable and keep your prices.
Xelest Czeres Caldari Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:02:00 - [5] Originally by: MaxPiegn Seriously... every plex you see on the market...was bought to BUY ships/guns/ammo. whats the problem?...eve isn't a solo game. I would like a rmt ship on a km. I agree that whatever the player is wearing should be on the km though. epic lulz when you calculate that you killed a 150 dollar pod. Yeah, you BUY ships/guns/ammo that were BUILT by PLAYERS. They don't magically appear out of thin air. Oh noez! /o\
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Xelest Czeres Originally by: MaxPiegn Seriously... every plex you see on the market...was bought to BUY ships/guns/ammo. whats the problem?...eve isn't a solo game. I would like a rmt ship on a km. I agree that whatever the player is wearing should be on the km though. epic lulz when you calculate that you killed a 150 dollar pod. Yeah, you BUY ships/guns/ammo that were BUILT by PLAYERS. They don't magically appear out of thin air. Exactly....what a target that would be.... you would be advertising you a buy your fun. Just how long do you think a ""specialty ship would last"? and what a kill mail. hahahahaha I just podded a guy worth 200 dollars. Trust me man..the average eve player cant afford that crap, and that's a good thing. let the prices get crazy high.. it will keep them to a few in game. There is nothing in this game that cant be taken out with a group.
Hyperforce99 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:14:00 - [7] Microtransactions for ships or other items directly from CCP is not the same as buying things with isk from other players. Its similiar to what SOE did with Star Wars Galaxies by changing Jedi to be a status that had to be earned through a lot of work, to a actual starting class. a lot of players got ****ed about this instant gratification that they never got. And that's not even taking into account the impact it would have on the market and the gameplay. --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/
Inquisitor Bernardo Gui Amarr Holy Imperial Inquisition	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:17:00 - [8] Our golden Amarr ships are NOT I repeat NOT bought at the RMT store!
Don Aubaris	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I think you are missing the point. The game is playable without ever using PLEX. People can buy PLEX and use the ISK to buy ships. That's true. But you are still on the same footing as everyone else. If the shop would deliver 'special' usuable stuff then that stuff will have to be unique and rather good. Better then the normal stuff. Otherwise no one buys it. So at that moment the game totally changes. At the moment successfull players buy those PLEX on the market to extend their subscriptions. Their cost to play this game will now double. Not only will they need to make ISK to buy a PLEX to extend their game time (on perhaps many alts) but also need to spend PLEX on store-items to stay competitive at making ISK needed to buy PLEX. So even it stuff is destructible/consumable high end players will probably be forced to use the store. Effectively doubling the amount of money or effort in creating ISK. Which is why they are kinda ****ed off. Which also brings us to the number of people leaving. Not every player is equal. If Old players leave that are good at making ISK, creating stuff, leading corps, missions,... then their weight is far greater then a normal player. All new players will feel this for a long time because the market will miss their efficency. That's why it's a good idea to support them.
Keylah Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:21:00 - [10] Originally by: MaxPiegn Seriously... every plex you see on the market...was bought to BUY ships/guns/ammo. whats the problem?...eve isn't a solo game. I would like a rmt ship on a km. I agree that whatever the player is wearing should be on the km though. epic lulz when you calculate that you killed a 150 dollar pod. No, epic lulz when you get paid the $xxx for killing that ship/pod :) -K
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Hyperforce99 Microtransactions for ships or other items directly from CCP is not the same as buying things with isk from other players. Its similiar to what SOE did with Star Wars Galaxies by changing Jedi to be a status that had to be earned through a lot of work, to a actual starting class. a lot of players got ****ed about this instant gratification that they never got. And that's not even taking into account the impact it would have on the market and the gameplay. This is on the assumption that these items will be everywhere. With these prices I doubt that. also with SWG .. items were not lost forever. I would be ok with it ..as long as they would and could be destroyed. Think about it...if you just dropped 300 dollars on a cruiser...would you actually fly it? People get suicided for much much much less every single day.
Jajunum	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:23:00 - [12] No more hulkageddons now we have monogeddons!!!!
Tane Enat	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think. Again... another idiot... with a fail logic... failing... WHAT WE HAVE NOW: Player A buys PLEX > sells PLEX > gets ISK > buy a Ship from the market. What happened here? - Someone had to mine to get the minerals - Someone had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - Someone had to research the BPO - Someone had to haul the minerals - Someone had to manufacture the minerals - Someone had to haul the ship - Someone had to trade the ship WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR MT Player A buys Aurum > buys a SHIP - NOONE had to mine to get the minerals - NOONE had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - NOONE had to research the BPO/BPC - NOONE had to haul the minerals - NOONE had to manufacture the minerals - NOONE had to haul the ship - NOONE had to trade the ship You failed to understand EVE. GTFO
Rion Deteisan	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:24:00 - [14] Edited by: Rion Deteisan on 25/06/2011 20:26:39 Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. You buy from ccp. no player gets paid. CCP competes DIRECTLY with its EVE economy. EVE economy crashes. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1538167&page=1#8
XSarah	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:28:00 - [15] gtc is paid for in game with isk from players, not isk that is made from thin air
Cat Casidy Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:28:00 - [16] Our corp killboard already has a real money value listing in euros, dollars, and pounds for every kill. This will just make it so much better.
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:38:00 - [17] Most large bounties are put there by themselves already ...seeing something like " the mittanis" shattered monocle as loot would be hilarious.
Painpill	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Painpill on 25/06/2011 20:43:42 Originally by: Tane Enat Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think. Again... another idiot... with a fail logic... failing... WHAT WE HAVE NOW: Player A buys PLEX > sells PLEX > gets ISK > buy a Ship from the market. What happened here? - Someone had to mine to get the minerals - Someone had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - Someone had to research the BPO - Someone had to haul the minerals - Someone had to manufacture the minerals - Someone had to haul the ship - Someone had to trade the ship WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR MT Player A buys Aurum > buys a SHIP - NOONE had to mine to get the minerals - NOONE had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - NOONE had to research the BPO/BPC - NOONE had to haul the minerals - NOONE had to manufacture the minerals - NOONE had to haul the ship - NOONE had to trade the ship You failed to understand EVE. GTFO Again .... another idiot .... who think CCP are going to introduce game advantages for Aurum Where exactly did it state that? Was it the Gordon Gekko Newsletter? if you didnt catch the pun in that you seiously failed at Life Gordon Gekko was the fictional character in the best movie of all times "Wall Street", he had a saying that goes "Greed, in lack of better terms, is good", and to spoil that movie for you (your propably to young to have seen it) he got jailed in the end for screwing over his customer, so when CCP puts out an internal newsletter with the hypothetical headline of "Greed is Good?". WHAT exactly do you think its ment as? Could it be "Are MT the same as screwing over your customers? Discuss!!" ?????? Oh and to add if you are thinking of custom paintjobs, i can almost certainly tell you that might need the base model in order to UPGRADE e.i. no manufatures OR the economy gets hurt
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Cat Casidy Edited by: Cat Casidy on 25/06/2011 20:32:49 Our corp killboard already has a real money value listing in euros, dollars, and pounds for every kill. This will just make it so much better. Also I do remember whatshisface in the tourney saying that gold Scorp would be the only ship that didn't require trading a regular ship in for it and all future things would. No love on the clothes or anything though. Actually, I believe you should have to fed-ex a real pair of pants to Iceland plus spend some aurum for virtual pants.
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [20] Originally by: Tane Enat Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think. Again... another idiot... with a fail logic... failing... WHAT WE HAVE NOW: Player A buys PLEX > sells PLEX > gets ISK > buy a Ship from the market. What happened here? - Someone had to mine to get the minerals - Someone had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - Someone had to research the BPO - Someone had to haul the minerals - Someone had to manufacture the minerals - Someone had to haul the ship - Someone had to trade the ship WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR MT Player A buys Aurum > buys a SHIP - NOONE had to mine to get the minerals - NOONE had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - NOONE had to research the BPO/BPC - NOONE had to haul the minerals - NOONE had to manufacture the minerals - NOONE had to haul the ship - NOONE had to trade the ship You failed to understand EVE. GTFO No, I think you fail .... in thinking EVERY one is going to buy this crap. CCP seed's the market ALL THE TIME and they infuse price controls ALL THE TIME...or didn't you know that. The few who do..will be targets...as long as the items can be destroyed. That's why there's the AUR currency... As long as I can blow it up i'm cool with it. I can see the tears now.
Cat Casidy Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:45:00 - [21] Originally by: X Gallentius Originally by: Cat Casidy Edited by: Cat Casidy on 25/06/2011 20:32:49 Our corp killboard already has a real money value listing in euros, dollars, and pounds for every kill. This will just make it so much better. Also I do remember whatshisface in the tourney saying that gold Scorp would be the only ship that didn't require trading a regular ship in for it and all future things would. No love on the clothes or anything though. Actually, I believe you should have to fed-ex a real pair of pants to Iceland plus spend some aurum for virtual pants. thousand dollar pants
Linar Mardolak Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think. Vanity items only, and destructible? Sure. It'd be hilarious to blow up a monocle. Ship skins that are destructible? Excellent. Originally by: CCP One other service weÆre looking at is selling faction standings. We want to offer convenience for a price. No. Originally by: Soundwave Giving people small amounts of micro-currency for being loyal subscribers, or even as a reward for high level gameplay like taking sovereignty should be just as legitimate a part of the business model as charging players. No. Originally by: Soundwave I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, IÆd like to sell a lot more than vanity items. No. Originally by: CCP Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright. No. The difference between fleets bought by selling PLEX for isk and fleets bought by using just PLEX has already been clearly explained. However, if it's still that confusing, remove PLEX and the predecessor GTC from the game. I'd rather see and blow up botters and farmers and macroers than have things go this direction.
Iyuvai Myoisi Minmatar Calx Holding	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Cat Casidy Originally by: X Gallentius Originally by: Cat Casidy Edited by: Cat Casidy on 25/06/2011 20:32:49 Our corp killboard already has a real money value listing in euros, dollars, and pounds for every kill. This will just make it so much better. Also I do remember whatshisface in the tourney saying that gold Scorp would be the only ship that didn't require trading a regular ship in for it and all future things would. No love on the clothes or anything though. Actually, I believe you should have to fed-ex a real pair of pants to Iceland plus spend some aurum for virtual pants. thousand dollar pants Zulu needs pants.
Sakura Ren Fenikkusu	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Tane Enat ... WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR MT Player A buys Aurum > buys a SHIP - NOONE had to mine to get the minerals - NOONE had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - NOONE had to research the BPO/BPC - NOONE had to haul the minerals - NOONE had to manufacture the minerals - NOONE had to haul the ship - NOONE had to trade the ship This is not true. If you have been following the CCP posts, the desired way of selling these items for AURUM is using BPO/BPCs or as a trade-in for the base hull. (Scorpion + 1k AURUM = Painted Scorpion)
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Linar Mardolak Originally by: Mak Gruber ....... Is it really so bad?... I mean plex bought fleets are everywhere already.... At least this way you can see them...and kill them. I dunno.. but I think I would get a huge sense of satisfaction...if I podded a guy in a monocle...then moments later his avatar had no monocle... to bad that scenario isn't the case though. All items in game should be destructible I think. Vanity items only, and destructible? Sure. It'd be hilarious to blow up a monocle. Ship skins that are destructible? Excellent. Originally by: CCP One other service weÆre looking at is selling faction standings. We want to offer convenience for a price. No. Originally by: Soundwave Giving people small amounts of micro-currency for being loyal subscribers, or even as a reward for high level gameplay like taking sovereignty should be just as legitimate a part of the business model as charging players. No. Originally by: Soundwave I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, IÆd like to sell a lot more than vanity items. No. Originally by: CCP Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright. No. The difference between fleets bought by selling PLEX for isk and fleets bought by using just PLEX has already been clearly explained. However, if it's still that confusing, remove PLEX and the predecessor GTC from the game. I'd rather see and blow up botters and farmers and macroers than have things go this direction. No, its not confusing...and I do understand the argument...but my point is..if they want to make the items that expensive...it will mean very few actually can field it. All eve players are not rich, and do not wear 1000 dollar pants. I do not think it would be the game breaker many are saying. Now..if they went for the full Rtard and forced us ALL to have to pay for everything...that would be the eve breaker. faction Standings...agree 150% Linar Ships that can be purchased outright..well, as long as the ships being purchased are obvious money ships... I think i'd quite enjoy popping a carebear flying one. I think that would be the guy using them...the non confrontational carebear.
Tane Enat	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Painpill Again .... another idiot .... who think CCP are going to introduce game advantages for Aurum link link kthxbye Originally by: Mak Gruber No, I think you fail .... in thinking EVERY one is going to buy this crap. CCP seed's the market ALL THE TIME and they infuse price controls ALL THE TIME...or didn't you know that. it's not a matter of prices. It's a matter of ambientation, meta-gaming and trust.
Kunta kintay Arjar	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:01:00 - [27] I want a shattered monocle
Linar Mardolak Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Inquisitor Bernardo Gui Our golden Amarr ships are NOT I repeat NOT bought at the RMT store! Of course, the newer Amarr paint schemes are more of a muddy brown. It would make sense to only offer the gold ones for AUR.
Linar Mardolak Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:28:00 - [29] Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu Originally by: Tane Enat ... WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR MT Player A buys Aurum > buys a SHIP - NOONE had to mine to get the minerals - NOONE had to explore/pewpew to get the BPO - NOONE had to research the BPO/BPC - NOONE had to haul the minerals - NOONE had to manufacture the minerals - NOONE had to haul the ship - NOONE had to trade the ship This is not true. If you have been following the CCP posts, the desired way of selling these items for AURUM is using BPO/BPCs or as a trade-in for the base hull. (Scorpion + 1k AURUM = Painted Scorpion) You're being quite disingenuous here. First, for the Ishukone Scorpion - while they talked about requiring a Scorpion hull as a basis, this is not how it will roll out. We all know how good CCP is at going back and fixing things that sort of work, right? Also: Originally by: CCP Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright. So, if you've been following what CCP is really saying, rather than the public posts that have gone through the PR and marketing grinder, you get a rather different answer.

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