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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.20 17:09:00 -
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Hi,
I have set out to make a harpy that will be good for solo pirating. I have myself up some targets i must meet in order to be as effective.
- To be able to do over 70 DPS
This will enable to kill anything cruiser size or below with relitive easy.
[list=2]To be able to tank alot of damage[/list=2]
This would be having higher EM resistance, or having a very high booster.
[list=3]To make my entire setup under 10mil[/list=3]
This means that the ship is semi disposable. It is only 30mil compared to ur average BS setup costing over 150mil.
[list=4]To be able to go fast to fly away from MOST cruisers[/list=4]
This means if it all goes pair shape i will have some escape
Heres was i came up with:
High] 3x 150mm Prototype rail guns /w Uranium
High] 1x 125mm Prototype rail gun /w Lead
High] 1x Arbalist Std Launcher /w Sabretooth
Med] 1x J5 prototype warp inhabitor *going to get fiant when i can*
Med] 1x AB II
Med] 1x Anointed EM ward
Med] 1x Shield booster t2
Low] 2x PDU IIs
This setup will NOT be able to have all of it going at 1 time, however, it should be enough to kill any frigate quickly, get the pod and get out. It is also enough to tank a cruiser because it will hardly hit u (if u stay at the right range). *flee the rail rax! * (finding a counter soon). It should b able to take out hualers easily as long as u shoot it, and then try nad catch it up following the market route.
Any comments?
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4 LOM
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Posted - 2005.02.20 17:11:00 -
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go 4x 125mm's very similar damge/sec... but better tracking... and with the extra pg saved fit a medium sheild booster II
try to go 4x 125mm II's
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.20 17:34:00 -
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Going for the sme range, u drop a total of 12DPS, thats 20% of the damage. It is good IF u want to fit them, and u save cap, however :) i personally find 3 150s, and 1 125mm nicer
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MachineMk2
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Posted - 2005.02.20 17:42:00 -
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On the Harpy you are almost better off with 150mm Proto's.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.02.20 18:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Miss Mwah
Going for the sme range, u drop a total of 12DPS, thats 20% of the damage. It is good IF u want to fit them, and u save cap, however :) i personally find 3 150s, and 1 125mm nicer
don't forget that you are making teorical calculations. tbh, a T2 125mm rail harpy is a ship that is to be feared. Try that setup
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2005.02.20 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: 4 LOM
go 4x 125mm's very similar damge/sec... but better tracking... and with the extra pg saved fit a medium sheild booster II
try to go 4x 125mm II's
/me agrees
125 IIs are very nice little weapons. Good config for a Harpy:
4 x 125 IIs
1 x Arb Standard.
Gistii Small Shield Booster, or tech II if you cant get one.
EM Hardener
1MN AB II
Cap Recharger II
PDU II
Mag Stab II
The 125s Hit for ~ 50 each every 2s with antimatter - gives you a very nice DOT.
Dmg mod 4.79 ROF 2.09, range 13km with antimatter. (still need to train Assault V, Small Railgun Spec V and surgical strike V)
150s are good on a harpy if you want to gate camp & snipe frigates that warp in at 60km. Fit Iron charge & your optimal should be 60 ish.
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.20 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gunstar Zero
Originally by: 4 LOM
4 x 125 IIs
1 x Arb Standard.
Gistii Small Shield Booster, or tech II if you cant get one.
EM Hardener
1MN AB II
Cap Recharger II
PDU II
Mag Stab II
I want over 23km range, but i dnt want 2 go ps lvl4 AB yet :P
Also, wouldn't a t2 battery b better? I will do the maths in a mo with the cap/regen 2 see wats nicest :)
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.20 21:01:00 -
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And wat about a scramber? I have persoanlly found it very hard to fit this into my setup. Have you guys found a way?
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.02.20 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Mwah
And wat about a scramber? I have persoanlly found it very hard to fit this into my setup. Have you guys found a way?
Kill them before they align for warp. I fight mostly frigates in my harpy and have had a lot of success using the following setup:
4x 125 II's w/ antimatter
1x OE-2500 Rocket Launcher (defenders)
1x Anointed EM
1x Small SB II
1x Eutetic Cap Recharge
1x X-5 Web
1x Tracking Comp II
1x Mag Stab II
With this setup I basically incinerate any frigate or inty (not counting other AF's) before they can say: "wtfuloserhowukillmesofast!?!," and I'd say that I have relatively mediocre skills compared to most AF pilots.
Happy hunting.
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Stuart Price
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Posted - 2005.02.21 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Stuart Price on 21/02/2005 00:27:38
Tairos setup is virtually identical to the one I have. There may, as with all ships, be a theoretically superior setup, but I find that this one works pretty well in practice.
The only thing I sometimes change is to have a t2PDU instead of the tracking enhancer in the lowslot. Depends what kind of mood I;m in really.
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Sollytear
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:04:00 -
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i have found a nice little idea :) But it involves ARMOUR tanking on hte harpy instead of shield. U drop half the armour points however u can fit a scramber and keep it running :)
I want my harpy to be able to kill all crusiers or less. The only worry i have is the rax and the caracal. All other ships i tnk i can take :)
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:44:00 -
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Whats wrong with 150mm IIs, they not cool anymore, r 125mm II's in now 
Bah im happy wit meh Harpy
/me strokes his 150mm II's, and reasures them i will never go with another hybrid.
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:48:00 -
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aye you going to spill the means for us :)
Do u guys kill crusiers in ur harpies?
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4 LOM
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Mwah
And wat about a scramber? I have persoanlly found it very hard to fit this into my setup. Have you guys found a way?
frigs/intys/destroyers die before they know whats going on no need to warp scramble em... but for cruisers yes since now 1v1 most cruisers run away from assaults.
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:20:00 -
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aye exactly my problem :) Hard 2 solo crusier hunt in a harpy
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Capt Tryton
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Posted - 2005.03.10 00:39:00 -
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"The 125mm railgun works much the same as its big brother except that it is considerably faster but also less powerful. The accurate range of railguns is very good, but due to technical limitations it cannot use onboard guidance. This results in a fairly rapid drop in accuracy at extreme ranges.Requires hybrid ammo types: antimatter, iridium, iron,lead,plutonium, thorium, tungsten, uranium."
I thought tracking guidance was usless for a rail gun? No?
Thanks,
tryton
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.03.10 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus
1x X-5 Web
With this setup I basically incinerate any frigate or inty
After the web changes, yes.
Now, no.
The harpy, like all caldari ships, flies like a brick.
No way will you get in 10km range if the other guy doesn't want to fight.
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.03.10 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus
1x X-5 Web
With this setup I basically incinerate any frigate or inty
After the web changes, yes.
Now, no.
The harpy, like all caldari ships, flies like a brick.
No way will you get in 10km range if the other guy doesn't want to fight.
With the web he will at least not be whittled down by your average shortrange frigate.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.03.10 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
With the web he will at least not be whittled down by your average shortrange frigate.
True enough, but he still has no scrambler.
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Rex Martell
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Posted - 2005.03.10 08:13:00 -
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Complete Nooblar question but what is a "Gistii Small Shield Booster"
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2005.03.10 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Muad ''dib on 10/03/2005 12:02:44
Originally by: Rex Martell
Complete Nooblar question but what is a "Gistii Small Shield Booster"
Its the best thing since sliced cheese.
My Harpy lubs it.
Its a sweet expensive named SB from the DS missions that are run by the Gistii rats (wierd caldari faction).
Stats are : 57 shield every 2 seconds, and wait for it..... 13 cap per boost .
Makes any frig shield tanker t3h b0mb (at a price)
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Rex Martell
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Posted - 2005.03.10 15:49:00 -
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Sweet Yabba
I need some of that for my Harpy the Medium CL5 i am running is making me sad 'cause it eats my cap.
What DS missions or sites drop this magical item. ie. where can I find these Gistii rats
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
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Posted - 2005.03.10 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
Edited by: Muad ''dib on 10/03/2005 12:02:44
Its a sweet expensive named SB from the DS missions that are run by the Gistii rats (wierd caldari faction).
Gist are deepspace Angels (and I belief from origin Minmatar), Caldari counter-part would be the Pith.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.03.11 09:36:00 -
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If you check Eve-I for the various 'core (deadspace) faction' loot, such as Gistii (Angel) shieldboosters, Corelii (Serpentis) Armor repairers and Pithii (Gurista's) Railguns, you'll see that all these items have pretty insane stats.
These items are supposed to be the rewards for clearing complexes. There was a bug until the last patch where the Gistii rats actually had these modules in their loot tables, while the others had not. This explainins why Gist items are still all over the place. On top of that, Angels are the only faction that have several 5/10 complexes in Empire, which are pretty much camped 23/7.
The other core factions don't drop their faction modules with any frequency and neither does any of them have good complexes. Sure, there are two Serpentis Fleet Shipyards (10/10), but those are hardly ever run for several reasons:
1) They're in the most contested area in Eve
2) It takes an Alliance fleet to even clear the first stage.
Anyway, the Gist modules are getting rarer and more expensive quickly atm, so I guess they fixed the loot tables and made the Gist loot just as rare as the Core, Pith and Corpum loot.
If complexes will finally be finished and get proper rewards vs their risk, we might see more of this uberloot come in and actually have a chance to run into such a module ourselves.
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Miss Mwah
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Posted - 2005.03.11 09:55:00 -
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booo..... i want more gisti stuffy!
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Goljsin
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Posted - 2005.04.18 16:08:00 -
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all crappy setups :P
My setup:
4x 150 T2 rails
1x caldari navy rocket launcher
Gisti MWD
Gisti SB
Anointed Em ward
Cap recharger 2
PDS2
Mag Field Stab 2
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Goljsin
all crappy setups :P
My setup:
4x 150 T2 rails
1x caldari navy rocket launcher
Gisti MWD
Gisti SB
Anointed Em ward
Cap recharger 2
PDS2
Mag Field Stab 2
Wanna explain how you fit all that? Unless I'm mistaken, you'd have a powergrid of ~65.63 with Engineering V and that PDS II. All your stuff above eats more than that. What am I missing?
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Tasselhoff Burrfoot
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Posted - 2005.05.05 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tasselhoff Burrfoot on 05/05/2005 10:40:40
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
The other core factions don't drop their faction modules with any frequency and neither does any of them have good complexes. Sure, there are two Serpentis Fleet Shipyards (10/10), but those are hardly ever run for several reasons:
1) They're in the most contested area in Eve
2) It takes an Alliance fleet to even clear the first stage.
Not exactly, other than the fact that the 10/10s got nerfed in the last patch, if you knew what you were doing, they were doable. I was in the group that cleared the A2v6 and XZH complexes with 7 battleships. And that was BEFORE the nerf
And the frigate modules come from 3/10 complexes, which is a problem, cause the building that drops them only spawns once a day, and its always hit right after downtime, so the rest of us are out of luck.
 Sorry about the little threadjack
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TheBigDog
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Posted - 2005.05.12 14:54:00 -
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What 3/10 complex structure drops the Gistii Booster? Or any of the named loot? I don't even see any Angel 3/10 complexes at all. I see some Sancha, but no Angels. Hate to jack this thread, but what structures drop what? If you know (and are willing to divulge secrets) let me know. If you want to keep it semi-secret, contact me in-game as TheBigDog
Thanks,
TheBigDog
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Cupdeez
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Posted - 2005.05.12 18:48:00 -
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i dissagree with the 125s for a few reasons..
1. harpy does not get as much of a bounce to damage as the enyo does and needs to deal more damage then a 125mm gun can.
2. Harpy gets more of a range bounce with 150mm guns you can orbit a cruiser at 18km out of nos range and pound the **** out of him..
3. 150mm guns have pretty good tracking and can hit pretty much anything that orbits you.
mids slots use all tank Ex. 2 hardners and 1 booster maybe with an amp ?
although assult ships own they are still very fragile and with 0 cap they are dead in the water..
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