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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Indy Rider I've unsubbed three accounts, but I am waiting to see what happens.
My optimism is vanishing quickly though, it shouldn't take this long to say "no gold ammo", till they do I wont resub...
Edit, and their attitude towards genuine concerns is just pathetic.
I've never had a subbed account. Means nothing. I play with PLEX, baby.
And there's little point in CCP trying to open discourse with a rabble of screaming 5 year olds. They'll wait until the crazed fervour has died down and there are level heads willing to listen. At this point, no matter what CCP said, there'd be 500 lunatics screaming "LIAR" and drowning out the message.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 26/06/2011 02:47:53
Originally by: Terrante CCP Navigator confirmed e-mail by deleting the original thread which was: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537592
also see:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537718
and locked thread with CCP Navigator :
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537676
He confirmed nothing. Most of the email is probably factual. Some of it was doctored.
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Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 26/06/2011 02:47:53
Originally by: Terrante CCP Navigator confirmed e-mail by deleting the original thread which was: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537592
also see:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537718
and locked thread with CCP Navigator :
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537676
He confirmed nothing. Most of the email is probably factual. Some of it was doctored.
You say that everywhere. To which I already responded somewhere else: suure..
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5nake pliskan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:53:00 -
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in the end evenews24 is doing their job better than CCP is doing their job.
really.
I read the entire (full) copy of fearless on the flight down to Atlanta on friday, and yes evenews took the ball and ran for the ratings, this is what the news is supposed to do these days, news is entertainment now.
Game companies on the other hand typically don't want to start cheesing off their subscribers by lying to them, talking down to them or trying to guilt-trip the players for their own internal shenanigans.
yes, we get fearless was a discussion piece, does CCP get that we resent that they even took the time to mull it over as they have told us time and time again it would NEVER EVER HAPPEN?
now the dude from Goon is on to something I think, this may seriously be CCP's way of guaging our reception to P2W or MT as a whole.
Again, I think most people (who understand why the anger is happening) still resent CCP for even thinking about MT. ------------------------------------------------ There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers just exactly what the universe is for and why we are here, that it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then there is a theory which states that this has already happened. á á -Douglas Adams
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Tarinara
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel <snip>WoW goes through similar nerdrage fests all the time. Their subscriber numbers are still stable. EVE Online nerdrage is no different.</snip>
Blizzard admitted to loosing 600k of their 12mil subscribers. Guess some of them weren't really just looking for attention and a hug.
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Nooo ... I believe Hilmar disagrees with you...
Originally by: Hilmars' E-mail This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
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Legolas Greenleaf
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:02:00 -
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You know, you remind me of someone.
Remember Baghdad Bob (or Comical Ali to those of us in Britain)?
That really worked out well for him, didn't it?
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:05:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 03:06:33
Originally by: Tarinara
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel <snip>WoW goes through similar nerdrage fests all the time. Their subscriber numbers are still stable. EVE Online nerdrage is no different.</snip>
Blizzard admitted to loosing 600k of their 12mil subscribers. Guess some of them weren't really just looking for attention and a hug.
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Nooo ... I believe Hilmar disagrees with you...
Originally by: Hilmars' E-mail This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
LOL WOW!!!
You take that to mean that that particular edition of the Fearless newsletter, requested to be written purposely from a Gordon Gekko point of view to stir internal discussions, is the "communicated our intentions" part of that email?
Really???
You don't think that perhaps their communications on the matter was probably a bit more involved than a purposefully controversial newsletter with a large disclaimer at the top stating that this was NOT CCP's policy?
Wow buddy, just wow...
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Dmoney3788
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Indy Rider I've unsubbed three accounts, but I am waiting to see what happens.
My optimism is vanishing quickly though, it shouldn't take this long to say "no gold ammo", till they do I wont resub...
Edit, and their attitude towards genuine concerns is just pathetic.
I've never had a subbed account. Means nothing. I play with PLEX, baby.
And there's little point in CCP trying to open discourse with a rabble of screaming 5 year olds. They'll wait until the crazed fervour has died down and there are level heads willing to listen. At this point, no matter what CCP said, there'd be 500 lunatics screaming "LIAR" and drowning out the message.
Oh yes because coming out and saying there will never be play to win would not help quell the rage.
A lot of the rage is because CCP has failed to address the concerns of the community. BTW, you seem to be on your knees quite a bit scking CCP's ****, maybe you should grab a pillow.
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Linar Mardolak
Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Havegun Willtravel HOWEVER -- they were 100% right about the 'Greed is Good' leak weren't they ?
Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Interesting omission on EVENews24's part. I wonder why they removed that page? Oh right, it creates more rage and generates more pageviews for them.
I thought the most important page edited out was the employee satisfaction survey, showing how CCP employees' confidence in their CEO, their compensation, and the direction of their company were all steadily falling over the past 3 years, personally. Very interesting read.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dmoney3788
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Indy Rider I've unsubbed three accounts, but I am waiting to see what happens.
My optimism is vanishing quickly though, it shouldn't take this long to say "no gold ammo", till they do I wont resub...
Edit, and their attitude towards genuine concerns is just pathetic.
I've never had a subbed account. Means nothing. I play with PLEX, baby.
And there's little point in CCP trying to open discourse with a rabble of screaming 5 year olds. They'll wait until the crazed fervour has died down and there are level heads willing to listen. At this point, no matter what CCP said, there'd be 500 lunatics screaming "LIAR" and drowning out the message.
Oh yes because coming out and saying there will never be play to win would not help quell the rage.
A lot of the rage is because CCP has failed to address the concerns of the community. BTW, you seem to be on your knees quite a bit scking CCP's ****, maybe you should grab a pillow.
Guess you missed the part of the email that states they were going to pay far more attention to what people do than this ridiculous forum rage.
You have a little brown on your nose, perhaps you should take it out of evenew24 rear. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 03:06:33
Originally by: Tarinara
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel <snip>WoW goes through similar nerdrage fests all the time. Their subscriber numbers are still stable. EVE Online nerdrage is no different.</snip>
Blizzard admitted to loosing 600k of their 12mil subscribers. Guess some of them weren't really just looking for attention and a hug.
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Nooo ... I believe Hilmar disagrees with you...
Originally by: Hilmars' E-mail This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
LOL WOW!!!
You take that to mean that that particular edition of the Fearless newsletter, requested to be written purposely from a Gordon Gekko point of view to stir internal discussions, is the "communicated our intentions" part of that email?
Really???
You don't think that perhaps their communications on the matter was probably a bit more involved than a purposefully controversial newsletter with a large disclaimer at the top stating that this was NOT CCP's policy?
Wow buddy, just wow...
standard disclaimer is standard.
perhaps you can explain why they were brainstorming about something they expressly stated on many occasions would never happen in eve
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Madjak Burton
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Legolas Greenleaf You know, you remind me of someone.
Remember Baghdad Bob (or Comical Ali to those of us in Britain)?
That really worked out well for him, didn't it?
ya, this is exactly like the invasion of iraq. exactly.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Linar Mardolak
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Havegun Willtravel HOWEVER -- they were 100% right about the 'Greed is Good' leak weren't they ?
Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Interesting omission on EVENews24's part. I wonder why they removed that page? Oh right, it creates more rage and generates more pageviews for them.
I thought the most important page edited out was the employee satisfaction survey, showing how CCP employees' confidence in their CEO, their compensation, and the direction of their company were all steadily falling over the past 3 years, personally. Very interesting read.
Indeed it is. Not pertinent in any way to this discussion, but interesting.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Grog Barrel
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Grog Barrel Yet it's been pretty clear, that the "opinions" ARE the actual policies we are going to see. Confirmed by Hilmar himself.
What is clear and what you think Hilmar confirmed are in your mind only. You can take nothing from any document that proves anything, only your fears.
if true else (false) denial.
there is no denial. What now? do you also have to read books of Anatomy too, before eating, breathing, seeing, feeling, thinking?
You assume that the people at CCP are so stupid that they would willingly destroy the sandbox. They are not dumb people.
That they have yet to deny (which you wouldn't believe anyhow, because of your nerdrage), is not confirmation of anything.
Look at what CCP DOES, not what CCP SAYS. ---
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Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu I'm still more worried about who is leaking these newsletters/email than the content of them.
They could very well have access to our account and contact information selling it to highest bidder.
If CCP has a family member acting as a double agent, then yes.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:14:00 -
[76]
Originally by: daddys helper
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 03:06:33
Originally by: Tarinara
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel <snip>WoW goes through similar nerdrage fests all the time. Their subscriber numbers are still stable. EVE Online nerdrage is no different.</snip>
Blizzard admitted to loosing 600k of their 12mil subscribers. Guess some of them weren't really just looking for attention and a hug.
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Except that they edited out 6 of the pages, plus the most important one that detailed the Internal Disclaimer that the document was a discussion only and not CCP Policy.
Nooo ... I believe Hilmar disagrees with you...
Originally by: Hilmars' E-mail This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
LOL WOW!!!
You take that to mean that that particular edition of the Fearless newsletter, requested to be written purposely from a Gordon Gekko point of view to stir internal discussions, is the "communicated our intentions" part of that email?
Really???
You don't think that perhaps their communications on the matter was probably a bit more involved than a purposefully controversial newsletter with a large disclaimer at the top stating that this was NOT CCP's policy?
Wow buddy, just wow...
standard disclaimer is standard.
perhaps you can explain why they were brainstorming about something they expressly stated on many occasions would never happen in eve
You do know where the "Greed is Good?" catch phrase comes from right? You do know what happened to Gordon Gekko right? You do understand why a company would have staff write articles from an over the top point of view to highlight what they "could" do, but won't do right?
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Linar Mardolak
Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:16:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Indy Rider I've unsubbed three accounts, but I am waiting to see what happens.
My optimism is vanishing quickly though, it shouldn't take this long to say "no gold ammo", till they do I wont resub...
Edit, and their attitude towards genuine concerns is just pathetic.
I've never had a subbed account. Means nothing. I play with PLEX, baby.
And there's little point in CCP trying to open discourse with a rabble of screaming 5 year olds. They'll wait until the crazed fervour has died down and there are level heads willing to listen. At this point, no matter what CCP said, there'd be 500 lunatics screaming "LIAR" and drowning out the message.
Ah, now I know. Post with your main.
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Dmoney3788
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:18:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Dmoney3788
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Indy Rider I've unsubbed three accounts, but I am waiting to see what happens.
My optimism is vanishing quickly though, it shouldn't take this long to say "no gold ammo", till they do I wont resub...
Edit, and their attitude towards genuine concerns is just pathetic.
I've never had a subbed account. Means nothing. I play with PLEX, baby.
And there's little point in CCP trying to open discourse with a rabble of screaming 5 year olds. They'll wait until the crazed fervour has died down and there are level heads willing to listen. At this point, no matter what CCP said, there'd be 500 lunatics screaming "LIAR" and drowning out the message.
Oh yes because coming out and saying there will never be play to win would not help quell the rage.
A lot of the rage is because CCP has failed to address the concerns of the community. BTW, you seem to be on your knees quite a bit scking CCP's ****, maybe you should grab a pillow.
Guess you missed the part of the email that states they were going to pay far more attention to what people do than this ridiculous forum rage.
You have a little brown on your nose, perhaps you should take it out of evenew24 rear.
I stopped reading en24 after faked Intel was posted without verification.
Looks like you'll keep taking it in the ass from ccp though...
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5nake pliskan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 You do know where the "Greed is Good?" catch phrase comes from right? You do know what happened to Gordon Gekko right? You do understand why a company would have staff write articles from an over the top point of view to highlight what they "could" do, but won't do right?
did I say anything about the tone? the delivery? the pros or cons (guess what, I can read and can see there are actually several opposing views on the subject presented in fearless)
NO
I basically said why is CCP discussing microtransactions when they promised that microtransactions would never come to eve.
I could care less if they are tap shoes or faction battleships, trinkets or titans... it matters not one groat what form of mt, it disturbs me that they lied to us as recently as last year when they stated as a matter of fact and the record that "microtransactions will never come to eve"
do you get it now? or are you gonna try and tell me some more about Gordan Gecko? ------------------------------------------------ There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers just exactly what the universe is for and why we are here, that it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then there is a theory which states that this has already happened. á á -Douglas Adams
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Tarinara
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 LOL WOW!!!
You take that to mean that that particular edition of the Fearless newsletter, requested to be written purposely from a Gordon Gekko point of view to stir internal discussions, is the "communicated our intentions" part of that email?
Really???
You don't think that perhaps their communications on the matter was probably a bit more involved than a purposefully controversial newsletter with a large disclaimer at the top stating that this was NOT CCP's policy?
Wow buddy, just wow...
Then I'm sure you'd like to share with the class exactly which version of their internal newsletter Hilmar is referring to as containing CCP's official policy on MT's? He also says that This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
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Randaltor
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:50:00 -
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The email is a pretty typical corporate email, from a strong CEO. I respect Hilmar as a leader for it. It shows strength. This is like a message my CEO would send (and have sent), in response under similar circumstances.
If I were working at CCP, I would be very glad to see my CEO send such a message.
That is probably why CCP is one of more successful game companies in the industry. They have a strategy and they're delivering on it. Whatever anyone thinks about this patch, the protests and riots, etc .. The ultimate indicator will be long term revenue and profits. This is a business. So time will tell.
If you don't recognize it as such, you've probably never worked at a highly competitive company before.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 26/06/2011 04:06:46
Originally by: 5nake pliskan I basically said why is CCP discussing microtransactions when they promised that microtransactions would never come to eve.
They never made any such promise. Eighteen months ago, when asked, some CCP employee stated that they had no current plans to implement microtransactions. That was no doubt true at the time. Times change, and now they are implementing microtransactions.
The current microtransaction model is for vanity items only. There is no proof it will move beyond that. Some hints, perhaps, but most people are jumping to gigantic conclusions. They may sell ship fitting save slots. Big deal. They may sell some faction ammo in a manner similar to the loyalty point stores (e.g., trade regular ammo, plus Aurum for slightly better ammo), again, big deal. None of it is game breaking or game affecting.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:05:00 -
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If a microtransaction keeps the EVE economy running as it should, does not bypass the players role in the market, then the microtransaction is perfectly acceptable for CCP to implement.
For instance, all Aurum transactions that mirror the functionality of the Loyalty Point stores is fair game, and NO ONE should have a problem with that sort of Aurum transaction.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:20:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 04:26:11 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 04:23:02
Originally by: Tarinara
Originally by: Ranger 1 LOL WOW!!!
You take that to mean that that particular edition of the Fearless newsletter, requested to be written purposely from a Gordon Gekko point of view to stir internal discussions, is the "communicated our intentions" part of that email?
Really???
You don't think that perhaps their communications on the matter was probably a bit more involved than a purposefully controversial newsletter with a large disclaimer at the top stating that this was NOT CCP's policy?
Wow buddy, just wow...
Then I'm sure you'd like to share with the class exactly which version of their internal newsletter Hilmar is referring to as containing CCP's official policy on MT's? He also says that This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
You mean which edition right? Of which there are many, covering many topics. No, I'm not a CCP employee.
Perhaps you can show me the document that states they are going to change their publicly announced policy on the matter.
If you really don't understand the purpose of that newsletter, if you really don't understand (despite all of the information given) why that portion of it was requested to be written from that point of view, if you really don't understand what "These articles do not represent CCP's policy" means, if you really don't get the obvious implications in the title "Greed is Good?" and specifically what that reference means, then I can't help you.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:26:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Goobai Vapor
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Goose99 Those "views" expressed in the document are views held by ppl who make CCP policies. So yes, that standard disclaimer says as much as any standard disclaimer.
One employee view was to sell extra fittings. Not play-to-win. And another was to sell faction, which could be play-to-win, depending on implementation. Hardly enough PEOPLE to determine company policy. There has been nothing at all released that suggests CCP will move to selling play-to-win items. Nothing at all. Except what EVENews24 feeds into the fire with edited emails, and documents with pages missing.
Do you have permission from your Ivy League overlords to be forum poasting?
Only CAOD is off-limits to unistas.
The uni has had its share of varied reactions to this too, from ragequits (yes we've had a few ragequits) to people buying the Aur stuff (cant confirm/deny for sure, but in a 2000 member corp I wouldn't be suprised if there wasn't a monacle or 2 floating around)
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Tarinara
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tarinara on 26/06/2011 04:29:15 No Ranger - I understand perfectly what Greed is Good means. I understand perfectly what 'Pay 2 Win' means too. And if you don't understand what F2P + Cash Shop == Pay 2 Win means: perhaps you should go play Battlestar Galactica On-Line and see it in action. Go see a week or two old server w/max level, max skilled players in Pay to Buy ships. Go see ship equipment that is only upgradeable past a certain point through items bought with cash. Monocles today, full cash Pay 2 Win tomorrow...
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tarinara Edited by: Tarinara on 26/06/2011 04:29:15 No Ranger - I understand perfectly what Greed is Good means. I understand perfectly what 'Pay 2 Win' means too. And if you don't understand what F2P + Cash Shop == Pay 2 Win means: perhaps you should go play Battlestar Galactica On-Line and see it in action. Go see a week or two old server w/max level, max skilled players in Pay to Buy ships. Go see ship equipment that is only upgradeable past a certain point through items bought with cash. Monocles today, full cash Pay 2 Win tomorrow...
No need, I play WOT on the side.
Great examples... with absolutely no connection with what is currently happening with EVE Online.
If you actually DID understand the "Greed is Good?" reference, you'd understand why this is true. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Very few people have quit. Just because someone posts a screenshot of the Account Page or screams "I am quitting", do you honestly think many of them actually are?
You can't claim to know how many people have or have not unsubscribed. This is pure conjecture on your part. The people that are claiming they have unsubscribed have done so. It is not that difficult to do so. If they say they have, how hard is it to go to the account on the left and actually hit a few buttons to unsubscribe.
It's not hard at all.
At this point CCP's lack of communication is the bottom line on fueling people's anger. People want to be heard, they want to have dialogue, refusing to/poorly communicating to them is not going to help the situation.
Regardless of the reasons why, the time to talk and communicate was on the order of days ago.
The situation can not improve by continually attempting to do the same thing over and over to no effect. Talking is an action, as much as any other action. Clearly, the amount of energy put into this matter exceeds merely "cheap talk". This is a copious amount of energy applied by a noticeable amount of people far beyond simply being dismissed as "talk" or "rage".
There's no way to justify a lack of communication with your clients, your community when things appear as bad as they do.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.26 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodpetal
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Very few people have quit. Just because someone posts a screenshot of the Account Page or screams "I am quitting", do you honestly think many of them actually are?
You can't claim to know how many people have or have not unsubscribed. This is pure conjecture on your part.
I'd like to think it is experience, having played lots of other MMOs and having seen lots of nerdrage "I'm quitting" episodes.
A substantial proportion of the playerbase plays this game unsubbed. I do. Never been subbed. I play with PLEX. Unsubbing means nothing. Nothing at all.
In my experience, nothing has happened in the last few days to warrant anything but players talking the talk, but not willing to walk the walk.
CCP will have to demonstrate some actual design incompetency before masses of people will take that extra step. So far, players are taking a wait and see attitude, while doing a whole lot of screaming and shouting.
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
A substantial proportion of the playerbase plays this game unsubbed. I do. Never been subbed. I play with PLEX. Unsubbing means nothing. Nothing at all.
Notice a price increase in PLEX lately?
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