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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:20:00 -
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Paddlefoot Aeon wrote:I am no one important.
I've fought in some major battles, sure.... been in fleet with greatness, been called "Primary" by greatness, and every now and then, had greatness go "squish" under my guns.
But, should I die tomorrow, my passing will have no impact on the vast majority of EVE.
Every city has a cenotaph... a place to remember the dead from WW1 and WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1 and 2, Afghanistan. Our brothers down under remember their ANZAC fallen, and Canadians like me feel a little swell of pride mixed with sadness every time we hear "In Flanders Fields".
Yes, there needs to be an e-cenotaph, a place to remember the dead of EVE. Those who contributed to the ecosystem of EVE, even if it was simply being a target on someone else's overview.
But then there are the giants of EVE:
Seleene, Molle, Istvan, The Mittani, VR..... these pilots did more than fly and fight. They created CONTENT, and it is by their machinations, dedication and perspiration that EVE has remained viable, vibrant and vivacious.
EVE would be no better or no worse off if I, Paddlefoot Aeon, had never played.
But EVE would be smaller, less fun.... a pale shadow, if giants like VR had never joined.
When one of these giants leaves us, their footprints NEED to be preserved.
In real life, we rename streets for a politician, a soldiers.... a hero.
In EVE, our systems are our streets.... and there is one out there just waiting...
I've spent a career in EVE hating everything GOON......... its been awesome, and I've enjoyed every minute.
Thanks VR.
I disagree. Even though I am instinctually sceptical of and generally against any sort of "out of character" memorial that is permanently placed in the game by CCP, what makes Rixx's idea somewhat viable is that it is non-political (assuming there are no specific names on the memorial). As soon as you dedicate the memorial to certain people or a certain group of people you politicise it, it becomes divisive and in my opinion undermines the original intent.
As part of this politicisation you bring up new divisive issues. Who deserves to be memorialised and why? How big of an impact on the game did they have to make? How do you measure the impact they had? Who has the final say on who gets memorialised? CCP? CCP have long had a policy of remaining neutral on all issues of politics or favouritism (I admit they have partially broken that policy recently with their community spotlight, but they have been extremely careful as to who they choose so far so as to not be seen as politically motivated decisions). Could the CSM make the decision? Well the CSM is all about politics and personal or alliance specific agendas, no matter how much some of them may deny it.
These same sorts of issues arise in the real world in regards to the military memorials that you mentioned. Military memorials are by definition political and raise the deaths of soldiers above the deaths of other citizens. But the big difference is that in the real world local groups can get together to make their own memorials with the help of local governments. So if they want to, medical organisations could fundraise and organise a memorial to all deceased medical staff. Or bus drivers could organise a memorial to deceased bus drivers.
But in EVE this memorial will have to be not only OK'd by CCP but then created and implemented by CCP. And CCP are neither a political body nor a governmental body. I very much doubt they would ever implement (and hope that they don't) a memorial to specific players.
So I think Rixx's idea is the best chance for people who want to see some sort of memorial implemented in the game. Non-political, no favouritism and mostly lore friendly.
I also disagree that the big names in EVE are more important to the life and content of the game than the average user, but this post has already turned into a wall of text and that would be getting into a whole other discussion.
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