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Speaker4 theDead
Perkone
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.09.14 22:19:00 -
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Jumped my Viator into Oulley today, into a 8 man gatecamp.
Normally this is never an issue, no one was near me, wasn't concerned.
Suddenly my screen goes crazy. Immense graphics lag, fps drops to nothing, can't move, attempt to target station and warp/cloak, and find i'm already tackled. This was only 15-20 secs after jumping gate, no ship near me, this went on, until I was dead, attempted to get my pod out, same issue.
So CCP, are you really this bad at programming? Or are you simply going to ignore this issue until the game fails due to people getting tired of losing ships for no good reason?
The cost of the ship and the implants really isn't the issue here, it's losing them due to either an exploit, or some of the worst programming ever. As it is, a don't play the game much anymore, but this has me seriously considering not renewing my accounts at all.
And yes, I have already petitioned this, but I'm sure I will get the canned response, the logs show nothing, or it's not our fault. 
Here's a picture of the halarious graphics glitch....which cleared up as soon as I was back in station.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/lageb.png/ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9500
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Posted - 2012.09.14 22:21:00 -
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GǪor maybe it's time to memtest you graphics card.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Speaker4 theDead
Perkone
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.09.14 22:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪor maybe it's time to memtest you graphics card.
Thanks, already did that..
And considering I've never seen this issue before, and it just happens to happen when I jump into a lowsec gatecamp? Must be the card right?
19 ships in system, 9 on the gate. You'd think it would have happened in a place like Jita, or in the jita pipe with quite a few more ships in system and on gate. But you go on and defend your CCP gods...I'm sure they'll reward you.... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9500
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Posted - 2012.09.14 22:29:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:And considering I've never seen this issue before, and it just happens to happen when I jump into a lowsec gatecamp? Must be the card right? No, it doesn't have to be, but it's by far the most likely explanation.
GǪand all issues have a first time to appear.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
200
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Posted - 2012.09.14 22:30:00 -
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If you are you using ATI graphics, did you update your drivers?
That looks identical to my screen when I went and got the latest driver. Switched them back, things were fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1518
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Posted - 2012.09.14 23:07:00 -
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Had similar issues, but only once or twice these past few weeks. Sudden framerate drop after jumping through a system, and no, not just performance decrease but right down into unplayable level (3-5 fps). It's really uncommon and a client restart so far fixed the problem.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose."
-Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2721
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Posted - 2012.09.14 23:11:00 -
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It's a law of EVE: You get lag, slow-down, freezes, crashes, etc... ONLY at the worst possible times! 
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Denidil
Evocations of Shadow
Eternal Evocations
515
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Posted - 2012.09.15 00:59:00 -
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i love it when people who don't know jackshit about software instantly blame the game company instead of possible issues with their computer or video card drivers.
Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
232
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Posted - 2012.09.15 01:19:00 -
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Eve started crashing for me for no reason a few weeks back, fine one day a crock the next. Updated the graphics drivers to the Nvidia Beta version, all good now.
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
Bloutok
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
9
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Posted - 2012.09.15 01:47:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:Jumped my Viator into Oulley today, into a 8 man gatecamp. Normally this is never an issue, no one was near me, wasn't concerned. Suddenly my screen goes crazy. Immense graphics lag, fps drops to nothing, can't move, attempt to target station and warp/cloak, and find i'm already tackled. This was only 15-20 secs after jumping gate, no ship near me, this went on, until I was dead, attempted to get my pod out, same issue. So CCP, are you really this bad at programming? Or are you simply going to ignore this issue until the game fails due to people getting tired of losing ships for no good reason? The cost of the ship and the implants really isn't the issue here, it's losing them due to either an exploit, or some of the worst programming ever. As it is, a don't play the game much anymore, but this has me seriously considering not renewing my accounts at all. And yes, I have already petitioned this, but I'm sure I will get the canned response, the logs show nothing, or it's not our fault. Here's a picture of the halarious graphics glitch....which cleared up as soon as I was back in station. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/lageb.png/
First, do not listen to the trolls as they are the one constant on this forum.
Second. about a year and a half ago or 2, that exact thing happen to me.
I have no doubt some people found ways to lag out systems, or grid.... But, hey CCP sucks in some departments. That's one of them.
For as long as those who use that trick will not abuse it to the point where it would become obvious they are doing it. They are free to do it. Life is not fair, Eve is even less :).
Have a nice Eve day. |
Brooks Puuntai
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
741
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:35:00 -
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Sounds more like a personal issue then CCPs issue. Unless there was 400 cans around the gate you wouldn't be the only one getting lag if something was going on. Sounds to me like the enemies had something on(sebo maybe?) that your graphics card didn't take it too kindly. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
552
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:37:00 -
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It happens sometimes. I'd only be concerned if it happened all the time, or when the same people were on the gate. |
devilish instability
Galactic Intelligence Agency
10
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:45:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:Jumped my Viator into Oulley today, into a 8 man gatecamp. Normally this is never an issue, no one was near me, wasn't concerned. Suddenly my screen goes crazy. Immense graphics lag, fps drops to nothing, can't move, attempt to target station and warp/cloak, and find i'm already tackled. This was only 15-20 secs after jumping gate, no ship near me, this went on, until I was dead, attempted to get my pod out, same issue. So CCP, are you really this bad at programming? Or are you simply going to ignore this issue until the game fails due to people getting tired of losing ships for no good reason? The cost of the ship and the implants really isn't the issue here, it's losing them due to either an exploit, or some of the worst programming ever. As it is, a don't play the game much anymore, but this has me seriously considering not renewing my accounts at all. And yes, I have already petitioned this, but I'm sure I will get the canned response, the logs show nothing, or it's not our fault. Here's a picture of the halarious graphics glitch....which cleared up as soon as I was back in station. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/lageb.png/
Good luck with the petition, I know first had you will not get your ship or implants back I had the same thing happen at a stargate. I warped to 0 the game lagged when the game stopped lagging I was dead. I petitioned it, the B.S response I got "I see you couldn't warp away". In the petition I wrote I was trying to jump through a stargate NOT warp away, tell you how well they are read.
Here is another one, I got stuck in a class 4 wormhole i lost my ship and podded due to "session change" timer from jumping into a small camp. I petitioned it told them where I was linking the death mail the response "I see you couldn't dock due to your timer sorry about that, but nothing we can do", I replied when was the last time you found a station in a C4 wormhole? then there was another response "sorry about the first response but your still F'd in the A, please buy moar ships"
Customer support is to be desired.
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Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
109
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Posted - 2012.09.15 03:53:00 -
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Intel CPU, Nvidia card & Windows XP ? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2198
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Posted - 2012.09.15 03:58:00 -
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James 315 wrote:It's a law of EVE: You get lag, slow-down, freezes, crashes, etc... ONLY at the worst possible times!
this is true
"A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
989
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Posted - 2012.09.15 04:56:00 -
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There is also the issue that the fps of your computer is in no way logged by CCP's servers. Thus there is no way for them to confirm that a fps issue at your computer was the cause of the loss of your ship. All they see is you jumped into a gate camp, got attacked and died.
If they just took you word for it, most everyone who lost a ship to a camp would petition for a refund, making claims of client issues.
If CCP made the clients send fps data back to the servers, it would add lag to everyone due to the extra server load. On top of that some players would turn on extra apps on their computer as soon as they saw they were about to lose a ship, just to get a low fps, to support their claim.
CCP could guard against that by intrusively monitoring all activity on your computer, but I do not think we want that.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries
EPIC Alliance
297
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Posted - 2012.09.15 10:08:00 -
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D'aww.
"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
OssadaDeathLaw
Shadow Bones and Skulls
6
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Posted - 2012.09.15 11:37:00 -
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Had this problem everytime i was near a bubble.
If you are using ati, update your drivers.
Funny thing is, in 2 pcs with same kind of GPU, only 1 had this problem. |
Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
81
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Posted - 2012.09.15 11:40:00 -
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Yea I get a sort-of-not-really-similar graphics glitch when I am attacked by enemy ships sometimes. The performance hit isn't very severe, but there is a bit and I get funky graphics all over the place. Using i5 720 + radeon HD 5770...windows xp
i believe it first occured with Incarna. Must have been programmed by the same noobs who did the UI |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
173
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Posted - 2012.09.15 12:07:00 -
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Looks like a gfx card issue to me, why blame ccp? |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
302
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Posted - 2012.09.15 14:51:00 -
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Personally, I like the bit where the insurance co. sends out the mail before you even blow up! |
Lord Zim
1498
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Posted - 2012.09.15 16:33:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪor maybe it's time to memtest you graphics card. Thanks, already did that.. And considering I've never seen this issue before, and it just happens to happen when I jump into a lowsec gatecamp? Must be the card right? 19 ships in system, 9 on the gate. You'd think it would have happened in a place like Jita, or in the jita pipe with quite a few more ships in system and on gate. But you go on and defend your CCP gods...I'm sure they'll reward you....
I'm introducing you to this concept called occam's razor. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2486
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Posted - 2012.09.15 16:37:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:I'm introducing you to this concept called occam's razor. Thing about occam's razor is that it's easier to cut yourself shaving. 
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2012.09.15 17:45:00 -
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Sure looks like an overheated graphics card to me, but it certainly might be something triggered by a remote effects action like missile swarms or neuting that you rarely see in HiSec.
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Bane Necran
519
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:47:00 -
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Had it happen to me as well, flying a cov ops through lowsec. Was warping to a gate, and the screen freezes the instant it loads the people camping the gate. After a few seconds you're in station, without ever seeing your ship or pod explode.
Clearly an exploit. I'm using a GTX580 with optimal cooling, and nothing ever lags. Not even BF3 on the highest settings. I know some of you are probably well aware of this, and are covering it up for some easy killmails, but it really ruins things in the long run. I used to enter lowsec all the time, now i avoid it like the plague. All you're succeeding in doing is making lowsec even more empty.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
TriadSte
IronPig
Sev3rance
107
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:04:00 -
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Indeed that is graphics cards related but that IS NOT overheating, ill tell you why.
The picture posted is not artifacts at all because you can clearly see that the dodgy picture follows the lasers from the left.
When a GPU overheats or is on its deathbed the artifacts wont be localised like this is here. Here is a pic I have from when my old X800 XT died years ago
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/1847/shot0002ep.jpg
Very different indeed.
Agreeing though with OP this kind of thing has happened to me before also. |
Bane Necran
519
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:12:00 -
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Actually, in the OPs screenshot those are definitely artifacts. I didn't have anything like that happen in my case.
But what's important is that people are experiencing graphics problems and lag ONLY when a gatecamp is trying to catch people.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2419
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:24:00 -
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Actually, that screenshot looks exactly like a problem that I had occasionally when undocking or coming out of warp with people in close proximity with sensor boosters, etc. on.
It was an overheating issue brought on by a fan that had gotten partially clogged with dust.
I'd check the more obvious things first before screaming exploit.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Lord Zim
1498
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:30:00 -
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As I was saying, occam's razor. |
Bane Necran
519
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Posted - 2012.09.15 22:00:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:As I was saying, occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for people only having this problem at gatecamps is that it's an exploit. The odds are greatly against this problem only happening at that time by chance.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
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