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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:35:00 -
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"However, just to prove the point of the Fearless newsletter and give you a further understanding of what it is then there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum. In Fearless people are arguing a point, which doesn't even have to be their view, they are debating an issue. This is another example of how information out of context is no information at all."
I call BS... The fearless newsletter contained pro's and con's from 2 employees... Now look at page 9. Here let me help you:
"CCP is in the process of adopting a virtual sales model for its game products. While this model has always been intended for World of Darkness and DUST 514, you may be wondering how this will work in EVE Online. Specifically, how will this new strategy unfold in Incarna?"
This opening line isn't about debate you moron...... More---- "Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright."
Just caught you in a lie....... Yes-- you did and do still have plans to continue down the MT road..... We are not idiots........
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:41:00 -
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:51:00 -
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CCP has already lied and stated no MT at all once to us.. You did a 180 on that.. Why believe you now... You have the track record of dishonesty and deceipt.......
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 21:24:00 -
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"However, just to prove the point of the Fearless newsletter and give you a further understanding of what it is then there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum. In Fearless people are arguing a point, which doesn't even have to be their view, they are debating an issue. This is another example of how information out of context is no information at all."
Now, here is a quote from the newsletter. Note that this quote is from page 9 after the comments by the 2 Devs. The title for the article is ---EVE: Delivering the goods: virtual sales in Incarna
Read the page..... It is not their to foster debate. It is a statement of fact for what CCP has planned.
"CCP is in the process of adopting a virtual sales model for its game products. While this model has always been intended for World of Darkness and DUST 514, you may be wondering how this will work in EVE Online. Specifically, how will this new strategy unfold in Incarna?"
"Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright."
"One other service weÆre looking at is selling faction standings."
"So we might sell tiny things or batches of consumable goods for just a few ômicro- PLEX,ö but we would have the option to sell premium content and services at a much higher price point."
"Thus, we will not and cannot focus on virtual sales only within the Incarna environment, nor build that environment around such sales; rather, we will effect a universal strategy of micro-sales throughout the EVE experience."
Sure sounds like they have plans for it to me!
Zulu's latest blog is BS.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:39:00 -
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"However, just to prove the point of the Fearless newsletter and give you a further understanding of what it is then there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum. In Fearless people are arguing a point, which doesn't even have to be their view, they are debating an issue. This is another example of how information out of context is no information at all."
Now, here is a quote from the newsletter. Note that this quote is from page 9 after the comments by the 2 Devs. The title for the article is ---EVE: Delivering the goods: virtual sales in Incarna
Read the page..... It is not their to foster debate. It is a statement of fact for what CCP has planned.
"CCP is in the process of adopting a virtual sales model for its game products. While this model has always been intended for World of Darkness and DUST 514, you may be wondering how this will work in EVE Online. Specifically, how will this new strategy unfold in Incarna?"
"Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright."
"One other service weÆre looking at is selling faction standings."
"So we might sell tiny things or batches of consumable goods for just a few ômicro- PLEX,ö but we would have the option to sell premium content and services at a much higher price point."
"Thus, we will not and cannot focus on virtual sales only within the Incarna environment, nor build that environment around such sales; rather, we will effect a universal strategy of micro-sales throughout the EVE experience."
Sure sounds like they have plans for it to me!
Zulu's latest blog is BS.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Venom NOPE I CANT GIVE UP!!! OK im basing info off the video if we are 2% of the actual game community we need to alert people in an organized way IN GAME Ive already sent this msg to at least 20 or more ppl using eve mail.. im in jita and there are plenty of ppl there to send to.. HERE IS WHAT IVE SPREAD IN GAME
-PAY 2 WIN how to implement in game- http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/paying-to-win
everything that's going on in the forums and here in game are part of CCP's plan it looks like. in the Dev Blog thread a video was linked that shows what CCP's strategy is or at least its matching it so far with pin point accuracy... honestly Ive been protesting too and now after watching the video im sick to my stomach and i kinda feel helpless. anyways the visuals in the video aren't important it just has random pictures so you can just listen while still playing...
just in case you dont know eves browser wont open videos...
PS if you think its important info pass it around seriously WE GOTTA COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN OF ACTION... and im not smart enough to think of anything we can do
Don't bother with the ingame help channels either..... They mute you for mentioning the subject.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu 20 out of 30 pages, nothing but more whining, complaining, and word twisting.
Facts / Simple Opinions: - Current NeXus items are really high-end items, there will be cheaper items in the future. (I'd expect a price cut though.)
- CCP does not have any plans to implement "Pay to Win" items in the NeXus.
- Their past promise was that the items they introduce would not affect game play or game mechanics.
- They never said Eve would not have Micro-Transanctions.
- DUST 514 and World of Darkness will use Vanity and Non-Vanity Micro-Transactions almost exclusively.
- Any Ship/Modules/Ammunition implemented on the NeXus will be in the form of BPOs/BPCs or direct trade-ins.
- The only "ship" they have PLANS to implement is the Ishukone Watch Scorpion, which is just a STANDARD Scorpion with a fancy paint job. (Scorpion + AUR = Ishukone Watch Scorpion)
- The Internal Newsletter 'Fearless' only introduces EXAGGERATED opposing viewpoints for the sole purpose of a Micro-Transaction debate. Seeing as how they are using MTs in DUST and WoD, this debate is necessary. That newletter holds no promises to implement or not to implement anything in EVE, DUST, or World of Darkness.
- The supposed e-mail from Hilmar, seems to only have been written to encourage CCP's employees. There will be negative responses to any major change, and hurtful words will be thrown around. The message in his email was to focus more on what is happening and why people are upset, than to focus on the hurtful words.
- A CCP employee, investor, or someone with relations with CCP, had to leak both the newsletter and email. I am more worried about what other information they have access to, than the information contained in the document / email they leaked. Is there any risk that my account information has been compromised?
Now with that said, I'm in support of CCP, and will keep all my accounts subbed until CCP ever actually breaks a promise or does something wrong. I do not believe that CCP have done anything to lose our trust or faith in them. Those who are unsubscribing have made a very uninformed decision; however, I am not saddened by their departure. Someone who can rush to decisions like that, cursing CCP as they do it, is not someone I want to be playing with.
Too much kool-aid or paid well???? Which is it?
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 02:50:00 -
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Cats know all and even they are wondering:
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 17:41:00 -
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DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this Dev Blog do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP
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