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Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.26 20:20:00 - [1] Greetings fellow capsuleers, It has come to my attention that many of you are cancelling subscriptions over the recent microtransaction/Incarna events. Maybe you are coming back in a few months to check things out, maybe you are not. Maybe you want a stable return rate on your cash and you're not quitting at all? This is not a giant "can I have your stuff" post. I am offering a holding company designed to safely invest and increase your funds so that you have a higher stockpile of money should you choose to return. I offer a rate of return of 4% per month, I am very confident that I can use your isk to make more than that, profiting for myself and for yourself. My methodology is market trading. I will offer to keep your account open for as long or short as you like, with immediate withdraw of all or total funds available to you at any time. Your account fund amount will be available upon request and you can watch your isk grow while you don't pay your subscription if you wish. To get in b4 I have never done this before, it is true this is my first attempt at any serious investment. I have played eve for several years and have tried to learn the market, however only recently have I been active and making nice returns. You don't have to be quitting to take advantage of this offer either! So don't let your cancelled subscription sit idle! I can make use of it and everyone wins.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 05:51:00 - [2] This is not an alt. My other character that I use for PVP and junk is Redloc. The reason you can trust me is I have nothing to lose if I honestly invest this money. I've never bought or sold any characters and I intend to continue being a trustworthy person in the EvE universe. Yes, you may find a forum post where I had a dispute with a corp member almost a year ago, he was my RL friend and we had a falling out. Just want to throw that out there before someone digs it up. But it has nothing to do with 'scamming' people, which I will never do. Thank you for your good luck wishes! I only need sound thinking and some solid investors however
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 15:14:00 - [3] Edited by: Omniwing on 27/06/2011 15:15:54 Okay, haha, lets tear apart the guy because of his word choice. What I mean by that is I will make a good profit just investing this money and giving it back, I have no reason to scam and I want to begin an honest business within EvE. The people who make the most money are those that people trust, and you have to start somewhere. I am sorry that I can not provide some type of guarantee, but I give you my word that this is not a scam. "Your word is all you're going on here?" Yes. I realize many of you think I'm lying but I am not. This is a legitimate business and a legitimate investment opportunity. The poster above is CHARGING you money to hold your assets...obviously a joke. You will build your assets with me which will be available to you in a greater amount should you choose to come back.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 16:11:00 - [4] Well I am open to suggestions on how to make this more trustworthy, or provide at least some kind of a guarantee. I have to start somewhere - why not invest 50m, wait 2 months and then come get it back? In any case, I am interested in making this work. Again, if there are some steps I can take to make this more comfortable for people, I will investigate those. Thank you for reading.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 23:29:00 - [5] Edited by: Omniwing on 27/06/2011 23:31:25 Originally by: Roguehalo This is without doubt the WORSE thread I ever saw in MD :( Well at least it isn't the worst. I realize some of you are attacking me because you think I am a scammer. I can understand your rage. This is not a scam. How do I safely invest. I have two main things I do, PI(not extraction, but conversation of materials) this is done over a long period of time, with products stored up from good buy orders and then refined and sold when the price point is right. Secondly, I buy and resell items in a few different regions, mostly mission loot and ammo, obviously at a good margin. I have got the hang of making long term investments come to fruition and I understand how I can effectively use more cash. There aren't any "marks", I am not going to steal anything from anyone.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:03:00 - [6] @Previous Uh, actually, its really east to make returns as long as you don't expect them to be absolutely insane, but even a numbskull can figure out how to buy and sell stuff pretty easily... if your argument against me is "trading is so hard, you'll never be able to get 5% + of your investment back each month" then sorry, YOU are the failure, because that is pretty easy to do. There are such things as safe investments. If you take something like cruise missiles and they've been selling for around 170 isk for the past 12 months, and you buy at 45isk and sell at 169, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE YOUR INVESTMENT. The worst thing that can happen is you don't buy your 45 isk missiles, but don't worry, someone always sells. Basically, last post is a troll. This is not dishonest. Now if you add in spreadsheets, and all of the market tools available, yes, it gets even easier! Also you mentioned transport, I rarely transport items, and if I did, I know how to do it correctly which makes your chances of losing your shipment near zip. But that point isn't really important. This is not freaking dishonest guys, I am legitimately trying to start a legitimate business here, won't someone give me a chance?
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:46:00 - [7] Originally by: Serene Python Originally by: Omniwing This is not freaking dishonest guys, I am legitimately trying to start a legitimate business here, won't someone give me a chance? No Thanks, your lack of funds was informative enough.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:09:00 - [8] Edited by: Omniwing on 28/06/2011 16:10:27 Originally by: Faith Clothos This reads like a terrible "Can I haz your stuff" attempt. What happens to the stuff of the people who aren't coming back? Also, if they are not planning to come back what advantage does 4% more money in a game they no longer play confer them, even if we assumed you to be legit (which we dont). Please don't speak for other people. As you are not them. If someone doesn't come back, then their money continues to grow while I hold onto it, for an indefinite amount of time. I will not assume any investment is 'given up' or 'forfeited' unless someone specifically contacted me and said "I'm never coming back, you can HAVE this isk", but otherwise, no, it will just be a chunk of money that I use to invest, and even if they came back after 5 years, they would get it plus a ton more back.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 20:19:00 - [9] What happens if you quit, get sick, make a bad call, etc? I am not going to quit or get sick and die. What happens if any of these people on MD get sick and die? Making a bad call isn't really applicable as you can pretty much buy safe...If an item were to crash in price, there are tons of others I am also buying at good prices. Yes, the interest is compound, and yes, I believe I can keep it up. I think I'd have to reach a rather large sum before maintaining that would be impossible.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:05:00 - [10] Thank you, Taser, for your reasonable words. I promise that I will pay out and use my own isk to pay out to investors if everyone withdraws at once. I promise if I get a lot of investments and the compound 4% becomes too much to handle, that I will close off further deposits and attempt to return investments to those who I can reach and attempt to grow/hold investments for those who have not returned to the best of my ability. Since I can not hold it forever, I have decided on a once per year contact basis. If you are a cancel person, once per 13 months you must contact me to let me know you may return someday. If I receive no communication for you for 13 months, your deposit will be assumed as forfeit but I will give it back if I can if you come back. However I must protect the active investor's money first. Is this reasonable? I can revise it.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:25:00 - [11] Edited by: Omniwing on 29/06/2011 04:26:44 Jerry Pepridge, your account will be opened for 10b upon successful transfer of funds. You may transfer isk to this char (Omniwing). Upon successful transfer I will update this thread and temporarily close deposits until I have a stable rate of return on new investments.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:57:00 - [12] I am fine with 5b from Jerry Pepridge and 5b from Liberty Eternal if that is fine with you two. I will update with successful isk transfers, and again, if this goes through I will be temporarily closing deposits.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 17:02:00 - [13] Both Libery eternal and Liberty Eternal have not contacted me in game nor sent any isk. At this point they appear to be trolls. This is still a legitimate business offering and I am still accepting deposits.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 21:32:00 - [14] My mistake, I meant Liberty Eternal and Jerry Pepridge. Deposits are still open for legitimate investors
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 01:03:00 - [15] Faith, Yes, that would be the limit at this time. I think it will likely be a lot of work to earn 4% on that much isk, but I will do it :)
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 02:55:00 - [16] As I already stated, I did have a falling out with a real life friend, which has nothing to do with this game. I have never, and will never scam anyone. That is more than Sawny can say. I am attempting to begin a legitimate presence on the forums. I realize that it is rare.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:26:00 - [17] Deposits are still open. You have my word that this is not a scam, this is not a lie, I promise that I will protect your money and give it back, and that this is a legit deal. However you are all doing a good job of making me really disgruntled and upset with the trolling, this EvE universe is too harsh for an honest person sometimes :( I have to take the brunt of rage that people who scammed have brought down. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:53:00 - [18] Elise, you are both mean, AND WRONG.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:05:00 - [19] Edited by: Omniwing on 30/06/2011 17:06:27 No Faith, I've shared already what is important: I contracted the person my faction fit navy raven and an extra 600m, double the cost of his loss, the very next day. If contract records and stuff are kept for that long, I'd be happy to post a screenshot if you don't believe me. Look, I realize you people have no reason to trust me. I apologize for being so stupid about this. I am closing all deposits, and I am officially ending this investment opportunity. I am going to work on my investments with my own money and provide updates here for your viewing enjoyment. Thanks for viewing. I hope in the future I can work with some of you.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.01 22:58:00 - [20] Previous: You are not correct, had one person trusted me I would've proven myself legit.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 04:38:00 - [21] Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 05:09:00 - [22] Originally by: Gorki Andropov Game, set and match! as hard as I can
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 17:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Serene Python Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image. I must be missing all the emorage loan/bond/ipos that were successful... The only 'argument' you've presented is that you're a complete nobody who wanted players leaving to give you their stuff with nothing to secure that you'd give it back. Only thing you gave in terms of a securement was that they can trust you Confirming Serene replies multiple times to complete nobodies.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 23:47:00 - [24] I have taken the feedback and certainly have learned from the experience. Unfortunately your 'helpful tips' were riddled with insults and anger, as you hold the incorrect opinion that I am a scammer or dishonest. Choosing illiterate is a poor insult against me, if anything else I have obviously been reading the replies. All I tried to do is defend myself from people hurling anger towards me, and I didn't even do anything wrong. Seriously, all I did is come on here with an (apparently) bad idea, and you, and the entire MD community decided to chew me up and spit me out, and you continued to do this after I apologized for not thinking this out more before I posted it and closing deposits. And I admit, I am a sensitive person. So yes. I was a little frustrated.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.04 00:42:00 - [25] I am not a scammer. I am frustrated because of how mean everyone is being to me, including yourself, previous. I know you and probably nobody else believes that. But it is true.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.05 15:05:00 - [26] Edited by: Omniwing on 05/07/2011 15:06:01 Serene, That is fair. I do appreciate your points. I am still trading on my own of course so perhaps sometime soon I can look into getting an audit.

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