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Hareton Kadeyoh	Posted - 2011.06.27 13:09:00 - [1] Someone posted this build and I need to know why are there so many hardeners when they suck so much energy. [Omen, Lvl 2 Missioner] Medium Armor Repairer II N-Type EM Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hornet I x3
Nero Maxvell	Posted - 2011.06.27 13:22:00 - [2] To get better resistances of course An alternitive is using energized resistance plating, they are passive but don't increse your resistances as much
Buzzmong Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.27 13:23:00 - [3] Edited by: Buzzmong on 27/06/2011 13:23:50 Armour tanking with 1x EM hardener and 2x Thermal hardeners in a fit called "missioner" doesn't immediately point out what it's doing? Give you a hint: Certain NPC's in the regions where the Omen hails from fire Lazorz. --------------------------------- Go Web! Go!
Clarissa Delhi	Posted - 2011.06.27 13:47:00 - [4] Hi, As the previous posted wrote , this is a fit for PvE probably against npc's that use em and thermal damage against you like sansha NPC. I fly amarr ships and when I PVE I always fit like this with hardeners and a armor rep. If you fly amarr ships you need to make sure that you train cap skills. When you do fly with cap consuming hardeners is very doable as the decrees they incomming damage significantly. You will to fit quiet a few recharger etc. Like this fit has.
Hareton Kadeyoh	Posted - 2011.06.27 15:38:00 - [5] What are drones for here? Kiting?
Cataca	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:04:00 - [6] Edited by: Cataca on 27/06/2011 17:05:40 Originally by: Hareton Kadeyoh What are drones for here? Kiting? Damage, but they a should be Hobgoblins. Preferably tech 2. Basically, in missions you try to fit as much tank against a specific type of enemy and damage that goes through their resistance holes to do as much damage possible, while getting as little as possible in return. Its all about efficiency. edit: also as much range as possible to decrease the time you need to get to optimal.
Hareton Kadeyoh	Posted - 2011.06.30 18:19:00 - [7] Edited by: Hareton Kadeyoh on 30/06/2011 18:20:24 This build is ****, they massacrate me in 2 lvl missions. And these multifrequency lasers almost always miss, even at optimal range.
Velicitia Open Designs	Posted - 2011.06.30 18:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Hareton Kadeyoh Edited by: Hareton Kadeyoh on 30/06/2011 18:20:24 This build is **, they massacrate me in 2 lvl missions. And these multifrequency lasers almost always miss, even at optimal range. nah, you're a week old, and (likely) have crap skills. multifreq lasers are hardest hitting, shortest range. In L2 missions (IIRC) you're up against a mix of cruisers/frigs/dessies (heavy on the frigs, some dessies/cruisers)... so the frigates are getting "under" your guns. do a few things: 1. kite the rats 2. use the drones (again, T2 hobgoblins) 3. swap over to a longer range/less damage crystal (farther away means less transversal) 4. swap to pulse lasers - slightly better tracking, but less range... ========================= Originally by:** CCP Games, 2010 Creation is so precious; and greed, so destructive. Your choices can make a diference
Starlight Twilight Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.30 18:45:00 - [9] that is a ** fit, and a ** ship get an arbitrator fill the mids with cap rechargers and/or 1 ab lows 2 n-type EM hardener 1 n-type therm hardner 1 medium armor repairer highs, 1 tractor, 2 salvager, 1 small beam laser( for getting aggro) rigs CCC I x3 drones hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 curator I x2 get aggro, orbit something with AB on, and let your drones kill everything, prioritize frigates, recall drones if enemies even look at them the two EM hardners is because sansha do primarly EM damage, and secondary thermal, and as such they will use EM missiles which ALWAYS hits O o /»________________________ \| LAAZZZAAARRRRRRZZZZ!!!!!!!!! \_»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Tore Smith Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.07.01 08:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Hareton Kadeyoh Edited by: Hareton Kadeyoh on 30/06/2011 18:20:24 This build is **, they massacrate me in 2 lvl missions. And these multifrequency lasers almost always miss, even at optimal range. the fit is not **. id prefer pulse lasers, but still key is to kite the npcs and keep transversal velocity low. with a turret boat its not the best idea to cycle the npcs but to "chain" them behind you while running away. with pulses this fit looks like that: [Omen, Lvl 2 Missioner] Medium Armor Repairer II N-Type EM Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Standard M Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Standard M Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Standard M Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Standard M Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Standard M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Hobgoblin I x3 with good skills this is even cap stable. when you learned how to manage your cap, id suggest you switch one of the recharges for a web. cheers!
Songbird Gallente T.I.E. Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.01 13:43:00 - [11] if you're really hard on cap , change the guns to autocannons , you won't be doing as much damage but they'd be shooting with no cap( and using loads of ammo)
Cataca	Posted - 2011.07.01 14:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Songbird if you're really hard on cap , change the guns to autocannons , you won't be doing as much damage but they'd be shooting with no cap( and using loads of ammo) Telling a 2 week old character to branch out might not be such a smart idea. He should concentrate on the basic certificates and decide on a future ship he wants to sit in and dedicate training towards it. You should also get a basic understanding of fitting ships. Just getting fits from the internet or corp and blindly flying them will hamper your fun and performance. That said, you might get wtfpwned by the mission because you fit the wrong hardeners for specific rats. There are damage profiles around somewhere. eve survival is also pretty useful, and will help you overall. After everything is said and done, there are better ships than the omen for missions, but you shouldnt have any real issues with it (for level 2s at the least). If you still have issues, train up the basic certificates. Core competence and armor tanking first, drones and gunnery second. It shouldnt take that long untill you can perform properly.
Songbird Gallente T.I.E. Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.01 15:05:00 - [13] screw certificates - that was a bad invention for people not doing their research. And branching to be able to use other guns - I'm sure it would be better than training all the required cap skills to 4 or 5. do as you please mate. I'm sure when you hit F5 and you hear the message "can't activate the module cause you just shot your last cap trying to hit a frigate" you'd remember good ol' Songbird telling you to train projectiles and then ignoring him and following some stupid certificate system which was made for idiots.
Cataca	Posted - 2011.07.01 15:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Songbird screw certificates - that was a bad invention for people not doing their research. And branching to be able to use other guns - I'm sure it would be better than training all the required cap skills to 4 or 5. do as you please mate. I'm sure when you hit F5 and you hear the message "can't activate the module cause you just shot your last cap trying to hit a frigate" you'd remember good ol' Songbird telling you to train projectiles and then ignoring him and following some stupid certificate system which was made for idiots. At least those certificates give you a good idea of what training you need. Instead of trying to make you fly a lolfit projectile omen. Lasers are the second best turret platform, and by no means a bad choice for a fresh character.
Songbird Gallente T.I.E. Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.01 15:43:00 - [15] omen is a bad choice for AC's but he complains that hardeners use too much energy. and as for certs - I remember one of the tengu certs requiring you to train a skill for 10 targets and that's just stupid. If you want a good solid focused training look at a full T2 fit and start training so you can use it. I'm sure by the time you have that ... bleh gotta go
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2011.07.01 21:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Songbird and as for certs - I remember one of the tengu certs requiring you to train a skill for 10 targets and that's just stupid. Nah. Tengu recommends Core Competency Standard, which only requires Core Targeting Standard, which only gets you to 8 targets. Which is still kinda stupid; I flew with Targeting 4 (six targets) for years and never needed to bump up past that. I'm glad I did eventually but just to hop into a Tengu that would be excessive. But Omen is a meh ship no matter what you do with it. I think I might second the recommendation to go with ACs if you really want to use that Omen. Bumping up to a Harbinger or sucking up and training drone skills for an Arbitrator would both be preferable though. (The listed fit, however, is not a ****fit. If you'd like I'll take one out that looks exactly like the one listed and blitz L2s all day long and prove it. But it does require more skills than a 2 week old pilot will have.)
AstroPhobic Minmatar Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.07.03 19:14:00 - [17] Why is hamburger helper in my milk, Butters?! Active hardeners for PvE armor tanks, almost always... the cap use is pretty much negligible for any ships cruiser or larger.

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