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Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:19:00 -
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C.C.P................ You guys cool with this? I mean are you taking this seriously?
Or are you wanting to wait a few days weeks for this to cool off, and think its just for show?
It sure seems to me, that a domino effect has begun. |
Diana Valenti
Minmatar
Insidious Decisions
ROL.Citizens
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:20:00 -
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Time to wake up, CCP...
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Kronir
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:21:00 -
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How do you know it is 4k accounts?
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:21:00 -
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I don't know about them, but I'm cool with it.
I bet money that in six months, more than 3000 of those subs log back in at some point 
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Meeogi
C.C.P................ You guys cool with this? I mean are you taking this seriously?
Or are you wanting to wait a few days weeks for this to cool off, and think its just for show?
It sure seems to me, that a domino effect has begun.
Proof or GTFO
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:22:00 -
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Link to the info which supports your number?
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Xenuria
Gallente
Rebel Attack Fleet
Adeptus Arbites
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
I don't know about them, but I'm cool with it.
I bet money that in six months, more than 3000 of those subs log back in at some point
I am cool with it too.
"Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Meeogi on 27/06/2011 18:24:52
Originally by: Kronir
How do you know it is 4k accounts?
Can only go off the People leaving incarna, google docs/from the thread.
But if that's even half correct..which I believe it most certainly is...it's a pretty big problem...there are some fairly large names in that list.
Linkage
the number is almost 5k actually
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Diana Valenti
Minmatar
Insidious Decisions
ROL.Citizens
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:24:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536495
Originally by: Tobiaz
Edited by: Tobiaz on 26/06/2011 15:02:44
and the tally so far:
1986 people cancelling or not renewing a total of 4482 accounts.
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Montevius Williams
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Meeogi
C.C.P................ You guys cool with this? I mean are you taking this seriously?
Or are you wanting to wait a few days weeks for this to cool off, and think its just for show?
It sure seems to me, that a domino effect has begun.
Proof or it didnt happen.
PS - I canceled my account
PSS - Actually, I didnt, but if I say, people will believe me anyway - see how easy that is? I guess if its said on an intenetz message board it MUST be true 
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Ishtara DuQuebec
Caldari
Exotic dancers School
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:27:00 -
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another idiot thread
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Chogon Toil
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
I don't know about them, but I'm cool with it.
I bet money that in six months, more than 3000 of those subs log back in at some point
Of course they'll log in, because CANCELING does not mean you suddenly run out of game-time. We've canceled (myself included, I'm on that list) and are hoping that CCP wakes up and the CSM comes back with good news. If they do? I'll resub. Until I hear otherwise I'm staying canceled, but I'll log in to keep my skill queue full. I paid for that time, I may as well make use of it.
But I'm not going to pay CCP another dime until we get some answers. Sadly we'll have to wait till next Monday (maybe as soon as next weekend) before we get anything though.
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Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Montevius Williams
Originally by: Meeogi
C.C.P................ You guys cool with this? I mean are you taking this seriously?
Or are you wanting to wait a few days weeks for this to cool off, and think its just for show?
It sure seems to me, that a domino effect has begun.
Proof or it didnt happen.
PS - I canceled my account
PSS - Actually, I didnt, but if I say, people will believe me anyway - see how easy that is? I guess if its said on an intenetz message board it MUST be true
Well dip sh@# a whole lot of them also posted the cancel pic. Your head is seriously in the sand. |
Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Boaz Hedion Merkava on 27/06/2011 18:29:47
I just found out that Eve has reached almost 360.000 subscribers by the end of 2010.
So even if this is 100% true... there are still 355.000 remaining plus the newbies that subscribed this year.
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[h6]Quote: [i]"EVE Online continued growing in 2010, with subscribers reaching almost 360,000. (..) [also] the growth of the Company from a development and employee perspective continued. All f |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:29:00 -
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Important distinction : people CLAIMING they canceled and will let their sub run then not renew summing up to over 4k accounts.
That doesn't mean they will all actually quit. I'd actually be surprised if more than half of those accounts will be genuinely lost in the long run.
Unless they claim "I have put my char up for sale and will RMT all the ISK out of this joint", those are not really lost subs, they're people waiting to be reconverted, and will do so at the drop of a hat, as soon as they realize that every other MMO out there is either substantially less appealing or is fleecing them even worse.
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
I just found out that Eve has reached almost 360.000 subscribers by the end of 2010.
almost 5000 accounts in 4 days, and that list is growing.
And the question is, if ccp is worried or not.
Wax on Wax off |
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Diana Valenti
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536495
Originally by: Tobiaz
Edited by: Tobiaz on 26/06/2011 15:02:44
and the tally so far:
1986 people cancelling or not renewing a total of 4482 accounts.
1986 people still in the game running around screaming about how they unsubbed 4482 accounts, is not, by a long shot, any kind of proof.
It's just the usual for this game.
Once you've been here for a while, you learn ignore the histrionics. As does CCP.
Mr Epeen 
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Nidda Schottajack
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:30:00 -
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It's rubbish but I wish it were true so that the level of whinage would go down.
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Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Meeogi
Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
I just found out that Eve has reached almost 360.000 subscribers by the end of 2010.
almost 5000 accounts in 4 days, and that list is growing.
And the question is, if ccp is worried or not.
Warning: Speculation follows. Yeah, they probably do worry because they probably value each customer. The question is do they worry enough to change vital parts of the plan. Another question is, do they worry more about 5000 members clicking unsubscribe or about bad press.
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[h6]Quote: [i]"EVE Online continued growing in 2010, with subscribers reaching almost 360,000. (..) [also] the growth of the Company from a development and employee perspective continued. All f |
Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Important distinction : people CLAIMING they canceled and will let their sub run then not renew summing up to over 4k accounts.
That doesn't mean they will all actually quit. I'd actually be surprised if more than half of those accounts will be genuinely lost in the long run.
Unless they claim "I have put my char up for sale and will RMT all the ISK out of this joint", those are not really lost subs, they're people waiting to be reconverted, and will do so at the drop of a hat, as soon as they realize that every other MMO out there is either substantially less appealing or is fleecing them even worse.
Again..the question is if ccp is worried or not...and if it is having any sort of effect. |
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Oarta
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:35:00 -
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Canceling doesn't mean much. When you no longer resubscribe after your time runs out does mean something.
You can cancel your account, keep on playing until the last day of service and then reactivate. The whole time never missing a day of play. So in reality, the weight of a canceled account doesn't amount to much.
So, kind of with CCP on this one. Will have to see what people do and not what people say. |
Sumos Tigerclaw
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:37:00 -
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The number of cancelled accounts, be it large or small or inbetween, is nothing compared to damage to CCP's reputation. The long term monetary impact of that is HUGE.
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Tane Enat
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:37:00 -
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Remove me from that list you fool.
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Bullyboutya
Minmatar
Taxxon Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:37:00 -
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This thread has so much fail in it
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Meeogi
Originally by: Akita T
Important distinction : people CLAIMING they canceled and will let their sub run then not renew summing up to over 4k accounts.
That doesn't mean they will all actually quit. I'd actually be surprised if more than half of those accounts will be genuinely lost in the long run.
Unless they claim "I have put my char up for sale and will RMT all the ISK out of this joint", those are not really lost subs, they're people waiting to be reconverted, and will do so at the drop of a hat, as soon as they realize that every other MMO out there is either substantially less appealing or is fleecing them even worse.
Again..the question is if ccp is worried or not...and if it is having any sort of effect.
They're always worried, to a degree anyway.
You probably want to ask if the higher ups, those with any sort of decision-making power, if they're worried enough to change their minds about the introduction of NEX//AUR ?
The answer to that is "almost completely certainly not even close".
Or maybe worried enough to actually promise us "no advantage-granting MT items/services EVER for EVE" ?
Highly unlikely, but you never know.
Worried enough to not greenlight any advantage-granting items this year ?
Oh, yeah, that, sure, quite possibly very likely.
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Meeogi
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
Originally by: Meeogi
Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
I just found out that Eve has reached almost 360.000 subscribers by the end of 2010.
almost 5000 accounts in 4 days, and that list is growing.
And the question is, if ccp is worried or not.
Warning: Speculation follows. Yeah, they probably do worry because they probably value each customer. The question is do they worry enough to change vital parts of the plan. Another question is, do they worry more about 5000 members clicking unsubscribe or about bad press.
Well TBH "any press is good press" and I'm willing to bet...That C.C.P dev's used the riots to help with the lag... haha They have been asking us to get together like that, for controlled data surveys for years.
I personally canceled 3 ... and am very serious about it. I will probably keep one however..but this whole fiasco seriously made me rethink...and decided I should scale down.
Wax on Wax off |
Josefine Etrange
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
I don't know about them, but I'm cool with it.
I bet money that in six months, more than 3000 of those subs log back in at some point
Let me take your numbers. Lets say on average 3000 accounts return after 3 months, while another 1000 accounts stay inactive for a whole year due this.
1k*12+3k*3*12.99$ == 272.79k$ lost. Not a big deal? Right, but still significant enough to deal with it, and most likely more than they will make with monocles.
Why a forum in the year 2011 still has no automatic double post merge which can be done even with javascript mostly is beyond my understanding. |
Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Boaz Hedion Merkava on 27/06/2011 18:43:41
Quote from some official source: "EVE Online continued growing in 2010, with subscribers reaching almost 360,000. (...) [also] the growth of the Company from a development and employee perspective continued. All four of CCPÆs offices grew in 2010 as the company executed its largest talent expansion plan to date. In December 2009, the Company issued additional equity pursuant to a private placement directed to existing shareholders."
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Important distinction : people CLAIMING they canceled and will let their sub run then not renew summing up to over 4k accounts.
That doesn't mean they will all actually quit. I'd actually be surprised if more than half of those accounts will be genuinely lost in the long run.
Unless they claim "I have put my char up for sale and will RMT all the ISK out of this joint", those are not really lost subs, they're people waiting to be reconverted, and will do so at the drop of a hat, as soon as they realize that every other MMO out there is either substantially less appealing or is fleecing them even worse.
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Korerin Mayul
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
Originally by: Meeogi
Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
I just found out that Eve has reached almost 360.000 subscribers by the end of 2010.
almost 5000 accounts in 4 days, and that list is growing.
And the question is, if ccp is worried or not.
Warning: Speculation follows. Yeah, they probably do worry because they probably value each customer. The question is do they worry enough to change vital parts of the plan. Another question is, do they worry more about 5000 members clicking unsubscribe or about bad press.
thats the wrong sort of speculation, really the question is - do the Shareholders worry about the subscriber count dropping, 4, 5%? and counting? CCP is looking a lot less secure at the moment.
Its our ongoing duty to tell the shareholders (by our actions) that the loyal 'bitter vet' euro is worth more then the 'tried it for a month, its to difficult' euro.
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