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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2517
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:36:00 -
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So what is it about this new destroyer that makes it anything more than a glorified Caracal? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:50:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:So what is it about this new destroyer that makes it anything more than a glorified Caracal?
It uses missiles? Honestly, no idea as this is the first I've heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if it was 4 missile sporting Destroyers we got. Sort of hoping not, but it might be better than the initial impression that gives.
Wait.. no, probably not.
Maybe they're replacement models for the current Destroyers?
Either way, I hope they have some sort of transitional role beyond guns to missiles. A longer range Missile Destroyer might be nice, but I can only see that happening with them also having lower maneuverability and reduced speed when compared to standard Destroyers, along with a better stationary tank and buffer. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2517
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:56:00 -
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Maybe something akin to the tier 3 battlecruisers, ships capable of fitting medium weapons on a destroyer sized hull.
Than again this game has enough gank ships as it is... "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1063
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Posted - 2012.09.16 02:15:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:So what is it about this new destroyer that makes it anything more than a glorified Caracal? It uses missiles? Honestly, no idea as this is the first I've heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if it was 4 missile sporting Destroyers we got. Sort of hoping not, but it might be better than the initial impression that gives. Wait.. no, probably not. Maybe they're replacement models for the current Destroyers? Either way, I hope they have some sort of transitional role beyond guns to missiles. A longer range Missile Destroyer might be nice, but I can only see that happening with them also having lower maneuverability and reduced speed when compared to standard Destroyers, along with a better stationary tank and buffer.
Read the ship balancing blogs more. "New destroyers: while the exact attributes are not ready for review so far we can explain their roles a bit more than in the previous blog. Main roles will focus on medium range damage projection through drones and missiles. Amarr and Gallente will most likely have fully bonused flights of light drones to play with while being supported by several turret slots. Caldari and Minmatar will boast high-slots fully loaded with missile launchers. Slot layout is expected to be 13 in total with overall speed reduced and signature radius increased compared to existing existing destroyer hulls. In all cases please remember this still is work in progress; a new GÇ£Features & IdeasGÇ¥ forum thread will be opened when more details are ready for public review." |

Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.09.16 02:31:00 -
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******* sexy. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1713
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Posted - 2012.09.16 03:46:00 -
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So... Caldari are space n***s after all... |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
228
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Posted - 2012.09.16 10:56:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Sarmatiko has an excellent unofficial render here
Looks like a sub from supreme commander
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Read the ship balancing blogs more. "New destroyers: while the exact attributes are not ready for review so far we can explain their roles a bit more than in the previous blog. Main roles will focus on medium range damage projection through drones and missiles. Amarr and Gallente will most likely have fully bonused flights of light drones to play with while being supported by several turret slots. Caldari and Minmatar will boast high-slots fully loaded with missile launchers. Slot layout is expected to be 13 in total with overall speed reduced and signature radius increased compared to existing existing destroyer hulls. In all cases please remember this still is work in progress; a new GÇ£Features & IdeasGÇ¥ forum thread will be opened when more details are ready for public review."
Wooo Drake destroyer http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Geoscape
RvB - BLUE Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.09.16 15:04:00 -
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Das Boot  |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
93
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Posted - 2012.09.16 16:57:00 -
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Caldari needs to fire their ship designers. This whole asymmetric thing is grating my nerves. Please CCP, stop making asymmetric ships, they look hideous. |

TRUE ZER0
SILENT INC
33
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:11:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Caldari needs to fire their ship designers. This whole asymmetric thing is grating my nerves. Please CCP, stop making asymmetric ships, they look hideous. The new destroyer looks cool, so does the naga. Some of the older design are just ****, ok most of them. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2746
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:16:00 -
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Caldari ships are becoming symetrical, Minmatar ships are becoming shiny, next it will be Gallente ships with laser bonuses.  "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Forum Alt Shaishi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:21:00 -
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Do i count 8 hard points? here's hoping for 8 missile launchers on it.  Tho i do wonder what the new dessy's for Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar wil look like. |

Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:31:00 -
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I hope the new gallente dessy is easier on the eyes than the spidery abomination the catalyst is. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |

Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
189
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:02:00 -
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I need a module so I can cloak and then ping... one ping and one ping only
:) There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |

kerradeph
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.09.17 06:13:00 -
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is it just me or does anyone else see some hints of the talos in that? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1752
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:18:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Virgil Travis wrote:Looks a little like a U-Boat. Torpedoes away! In an orgy of Saturday afternoon boredom, I'm trying to find out the exact version of Das Boot that he used for the music in the clip. Anyone know (Soundhound/Shazam don't even recognise it  ) It's a damn cool looking ship btw, hoping he's found the other 3 and will post soon?
Definitely new version. Always manage to catch remixes of it, but never heard that one before. |

Empress BJ
FOF Research
9
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:29:00 -
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Dammit CCP stop makin crapdari ships look purdy
I will have to learn a whole new set of skills to fly one
~E~ |

Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
743
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:32:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Looks sort of like an actual ship, and it's asymmetrical! 
You had me at asymmetrical, as any good ship should be!
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Sirinda
Skadi Imperium Kill It With Fire
125
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Posted - 2012.09.23 14:41:00 -
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I'm feeling stupid. How do you preview these ships on Duality? |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.09.23 17:13:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:I'm feeling stupid. How do you preview these ships on Duality?
Well, I've only seen them on youtube clips. Tried searching for Minmatar - destroyer etc. and couldn't find anything to link to. I guess I'm stupid too  |

Sarmatiko
776
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Posted - 2012.09.23 17:52:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:I'm feeling stupid. How do you preview these ships on Duality? You can view them (and any other unpublished items present in the game) by TypeID using standard IGB javascript methods. Gogela site is good example how this is implemented. TypeID's and current temporary names: Amarr DST TiII 32874 Caldari DST TiII 32876 Minmatar DST TiII 32878 Gallente DST TiII 32872
Useful only to see actual looks because there is no actual ship stats, names or descriptions yet.
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:26:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Sirinda wrote:I'm feeling stupid. How do you preview these ships on Duality? You can view them (and any other unpublished items present in the game) by TypeID using standard IGB javascript methods. Gogela site is good example how this is implemented. TypeID's and current temporary names: Amarr DST TiII 32874 Caldari DST TiII 32876 Minmatar DST TiII 32878 Gallente DST TiII 32872 Useful only to see actual looks because there is no actual ship stats, names or descriptions yet. Great, thanks 
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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
217
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:27:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Sirinda wrote:I'm feeling stupid. How do you preview these ships on Duality? You can view them (and any other unpublished items present in the game) by TypeID using standard IGB javascript methods. Gogela site is good example how this is implemented. TypeID's and current temporary names: Amarr DST TiII 32874
Caldari DST TiII 32876 Minmatar DST TiII 32878 Gallente DST TiII 32872 Useful only to see actual looks because there is no actual ship stats, names or descriptions yet. Meaning that the Amarr destroyer is viewable? Does it really look like a Star Destroyer?  Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |

Sarmatiko
776
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:36:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Meaning that the Amarr destroyer is viewable? Does it really look like a Star Destroyer?  I'm pretty sure it's just a stub model. FYI that's how Tier 3 battlecruisers looked like before they received current models: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6156/gbc3stub.png
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.09.23 19:45:00 -
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Lower thrusters on the tempest need to move to a central position on the vertical axis, just don't sit right off to starboard like that. The subtle asymmetry and balance in the bulk of the ship is excellent apart from that. |

Selinate
1004
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:26:00 -
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Would like to see the new amarr destroyer also plz. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3709
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:28:00 -
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Would like to see the new gallente destroyer also plz. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:37:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Would like to see the new gallente destroyer also plz.
Only stuff I've seen is from your thread amarr - gallente (plus in sarmatiko's vid)
No idea how to get a trusted site to return a type ID that isn't already listed on the site - that'll teach me to have a job that has nothing to do with java!
Is there something I can just type into the browser ? |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3712
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:46:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Would like to see the new gallente destroyer also plz. Only stuff I've seen is from your thread amarr - gallente Thank you, the Gallente one looks cool so far, I like those big engines on the sides. As for the Amarr one, well I'm glad CCP has decided to make Star Wars "inspired" ships for a race other than the Minmatar. 
Than again after seeing those two and the new Caldari destroyer, I feel even more bad for the Minmatar (hey atleast you get nice remodels for the Stabber and Tempest). "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Selinate
1005
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:51:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Would like to see the new gallente destroyer also plz. Only stuff I've seen is from your thread amarr - gallente (plus in sarmatiko's vid) No idea how to get a trusted site to return a type ID that isn't already listed on the site - that'll teach me to have a job that has nothing to do with java! Is there something I can just type into the browser ?
I'm not sure how I feel about my soon to be new star destroyer from star wars....
I'm a little disappointed I guess, the shape doesn't look amarr at all... TY for posting that though |
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