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Bozwollox	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:13:00 - [1] I've been in EVE since 2006 with relatively few breaks. I've tried just about everything out there once or twice, but at no point have I ever managed to accumulate much more than a billion isk at once. Where are all the new billionares (trillionaries?) coming from these days? Back in my early days it seemed the immensely wealthy were the alliance barons and t2 bpo holders with a monopolized market. Now i'm seeing lots of up-start traders claiming to have more isk than many of the dusty vets have accrued over years. I know that every great fortune is at least in some-part a secret, i'm not looking for a walk-through or guide. I'm simply curious to know the general path that some of the mega-wealthy EVE'ers took. My ultimate goal is to begin a small compilation of rags-to-riches stories (with a little creative fiction) for a website i've got in the works. So if you are or if you're aware of someone with such an experience, post a bit about it here or evemail me if you would like to remain anonymous. I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Roguehalo Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:18:00 - [2] Edited by: Roguehalo on 27/06/2011 20:20:39 The fastest way for an 'unconnected' player in Eve to make oodles of isk is to trade/run missions in tandem. Do some research on that and you're away. Edit : I didn't read the op properly. I thought it was yet another "How do I make lots of isk" thread
Bozwollox	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:21:00 - [3] In case anyone else doesn't read the whole post: I'm planning to write some fan fiction based on other's stories of becoming space-rich. This is not a "help me make isk," post.
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:23:00 - [4] The general path? Find something that makes money and you either enjoy or not hate doing and do it until you are satisfied with the amount of money you got! Depending on how things go after the summit I may launch a blog to go over this in more detail, or just release my thoughts as a PDF. Been thinking about that for a bit. But I'll say that trading is good if you want to do something hands on, or agents/pi for passive, or.. really it doesnt matter as long as you enjoy it and are good at it. I know of people that make isk pvp'ing ;D
Dretzle Omega Caldari Ozeki Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:26:00 - [5] Oh, I'd help you, but I'm afraid my story is a mostly boring story of updating market orders.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:26:00 - [6] i made 3 bil the week PI came out, simply read patch notes, tried test server, saw that certain items are much higher in the PI chain then others, then i invested 300mil or so in PI materials, patch day i sold them all during the speculation and made profits.
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Bozwollox In case anyone else doesn't read the whole post: I'm planning to write some fan fiction based on other's stories of becoming space-rich. This is not a "help me make isk," post. Ah! There's lots of ways of making that interesting. Talk about the trader moving tractor beams from Jita to Ichoriya in his rusty ibis, fitting them on because they wont fit in the cargo hold some time and uptrading ships as he goes or some such. The story of a trader could be very interesting if only because it involves movement and varied locales and has plenty of opportunities for exposition. The research angle might be interesting too. I'd leave PI for more interesting times unless it involves a wormhole.
Bozwollox	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Tutskii There's lots of ways of making that interesting. Not so much concerned with how to make it interesting, i've been a creative writer for a long time. The point of this thread was to find some players with a story worth telling.
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Bozwollox Originally by: Tutskii There's lots of ways of making that interesting. Not so much concerned with how to make it interesting, i've been a creative writer for a long time. The point of this thread was to find some players with a story worth telling. Evemail me your conditions and the gist of what you want and I'll tell you my story, maybe. I'm not so sure of how much interest it might be but :)
Borkers	Posted - 2011.06.28 00:40:00 - [10] I'm at about 1.8 billion, mostly as a solo trader. Would be richer but I fund my account by PLEX. Got started as a miner, made a useful amount of money but it got boring and you can't get rich as a solo miner. I had trained Industrials to help mine, so I started trading. NPC goods at first, which did more harm than good because the good prices were in low-sec and I got murdered a lot. Then PI. I spent some time flying a spreadsheet to calculate opportunities to convert lower-tier PI goods to higher, and resell for profit. That got me a nice nest egg. I maxed out Accounting and Broker Relations to get trade costs down, and now I'm mostly a classical buy-low / sell-high trader, based in Jita with alts overseeing a few large orders at Rens and Dodixie. I still move a lot of PI goods because I have tools to help me track their value, but anything that trades in high volume is good. Never been in a Corp, and blocking spammers is as close as I get to PvP.
Gei'neille Paragon Capital Group	Posted - 2011.06.28 00:49:00 - [11] Trade and work on relationships with other players. Building trust goes a long way to building fortunes in RL or Eve. ___________ PCMTF\|Prospectus\|Fund Fact Sheet
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.28 01:37:00 - [12] I made my first billion running missions, my second billion in the BIG lottery, and then got into T2 cruiser invention. Not the most raw profit as invention schemes go, but I had a bunch of T1 cruiser BPOs when I started, and then I got all the spreadsheets built the way I liked them, so I just kept on with it. Probably made 25-30B over 2 years on two accounts from the invention, plus a few more random billions on assorted prizes/gambling/short-term trading schemes. Oddly, the two massive profit opportunities of our time(technetium spike and cyno jammers -> POSes) I basically skipped out on entirely - I misread Akita T's thread, thought he was talking about thulium, and laughed it off, and I figured CCP was going to drop a hammer on anyone doing the jammer trick somehow(though I did make half a bil or so buying up every Capital Construction Parts BPC in empire and selling the parts at a gigantic markup).
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.06.28 01:53:00 - [13] The best legitimate ways that I have seen, that don't involve mission/trading grind always tend to be found with gaps or mistakes in the game. Examples: 1. Armor plate salvage wasn't used for any items in the game originally, and a few players realised that it would be addressed. Made a fortune 2. Removal of civilian modules. Again stockpiled and huge profit. 3. New ships at patches. Orca made more money refining for parts off those that built them 4. PI. CCP mistakes allowed massive refining of products, and stockpiling others for huge profit 5. Ship Insurance. Infamous Insurance Exchange rate
Marshiro	Posted - 2011.06.28 02:15:00 - [14] A hardcore boxing mission grinder could do 15b/month anyways....
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:36:00 - [15] Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 28/06/2011 04:37:58 One of the best ways to make ISK is not spend it. Invest it. Things that go boom are not investments, they are toys. Oh this is for fiction? psst, let me show ya something ... My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Kalorned Minmatar Psychedelic Llamas	Posted - 2011.06.28 06:06:00 - [16] I don't know if I'm considered wealthy or not, I have 6.5 billion in liquid ISK - with another 1-2 billion in assets that could be sold in about a months time. I started as a low-sec mission runner. I befriended a local defense group that lived in a small pocket of low-sec space where there were 3 L4 Q20 agents for my faction of choice. In exchange for helping defend the constellation every once in a while, I was left alone most of the time to mission in that system. I made my first billion doing this. After that, I spent all that money on my PvP main, leaving about 200 million. From there I took the 200 million and began buying low and selling high. I started around December, so I guess when put that way I make about a billion ISK a month (accounting for the occasional whelp of my mains PvP ships and also the occasional goodwill I perform) I could probably make a ton more, but I limit myself to working with only 1 billion ISK at any given time, the rest I just save so I can comfortably PvP on my main.
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.28 06:50:00 - [17] Hmm, interesting apporach... evemail me ingame and i will indulge your fantasy. . Sales - CDRD
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.28 09:04:00 - [18] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 28/06/2011 09:06:18 Best way to get rich in Eve is surf CCP mistakes. i.e. buying up PI seeds before they get nerfed and become 100x more valuable. Occasionally CCP would throw a curve-ball to catch out the big speculators. Just one of the reasons they wanted to clear out everyone in a few months. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.06.28 10:19:00 - [19] I sit on some nice bullions after almost a year of casual (2 updates/month) of trading. I update everything twice a month. I make 1-2 billions a month. You do the math. Easy cash, very easy, If I knew this when I started I would have a personal Titan now. How to do it? Reinvest and don't spend on stupid stuff. I keep my spending in check and I try to use my free time to build ships, I don't know why but I like to fly ships I build better than the ones I buy. So when I PvP I usually use my own ships, which saves ISK. Basically I trade so I can finance my PvP. I can lose about 50 mil/day in PvP and not care if I can't be bothered to make my ships. Also if you plan to fly capitals, a carrier and dread, just to set u up with those 2 ships you need 3 billions for skills and ships, so you see, to make that kind of money by missioning would mean to play 6 hours/day every day. I can go on a nice vacation and then have the money in my wallet when I come back, all thanks to trade. === Or build a corporation. Once you get 20-40 people that do missions and you also do corp ops to generate revenue, well you are in for some nice ISK. A bit of work though... but good ISK and fun.
Wyke Mossari Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.28 11:12:00 - [20] I made my first fortune as a galactic scrap dealer. I would place region wide buy orders for Hydrogen batteries in Sinq Liason. My suppliers were mostly mission runners who would obtain them as mission loot and bonus items from agents. The bulk of stock would appear in a few stations, it was classic long tail. At first I would collect these up and Haul them to Hek in my Iteron in a short period of time I was able to trade up ultimatly to a Mk5, and then expand my cargo capacity to the then hugely expensive local Hull expanders at a cost of 30 Million a piece. This was before T2 became mainstream. Over time my wealth grew and I would start to accumulate Hydrogen batteries faster I could move them. So I would start to sell job lots of Batteries directly from the places they accumulated fastest, eventually my region wide orders were replaces with buys in specific stations which offered the best supplies. I expanded into other regions, first Essence, other goods like small arms. Gradually I spent more time trading and spent less time hauling. I had made my first Billion ISK and become a Market Maker, followed softly after by Billion ISK wallet balance. Afterwards Freighters were introduced I bought my corp a Fenrir which is still owned and probably one of the first and oldest in Fenrir in the game, strangely I never trained to fly it, my interest is the Sciences had started to grip me, but that is a story for another day.
Edwin Rothbard Interstellar Arbitrage	Posted - 2011.07.06 22:16:00 - [21] Originally by: Bozwollox Where are all the new billionares (trillionaries?) coming from these days? Twenty One [ Casino \| Loans ]
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.07.06 23:13:00 - [22] Originally by: Bozwollox In case anyone else doesn't read the whole post: I'm planning to write some fan fiction based on other's stories of becoming space-rich. Immortalize me in your scribblings friend, here is how I did it. I am a solo type player, while I always keep a low ISK profile I have a large wealth of acquired assets which I sell off when I need ISK of anything. Originally started out trading Vitoc long ago. I started fill Vitoc orders across three regions, until the corporation join an alliance. At the time I had several hundred million ISK, and the small tight knit group of friend I started with still barely had 50million. Once in 0.0 space we ratted in groups did alliance stuff etc. However, I took our ratting ISK and invested just under 100mil in an IPO called Zero. I got in on the ground floor, and when Zero. stock was good, I started trading it on EVE Galactic Stock Exchange, slowly collecting vast amounts stock from people wanting this popular stock at the time. At it's peak price, I was then part of a different alliance which had the CEO of Zero. in it. I was farming moon goo, but trading stock was much more profitable. Using the alliance message board I got a feeling Zero. wasn't going to perform well shortly, so I sold out all my stocks for around 7,500 ISK each (Originally 1,000 ISK each) Making me a fortune just shy of 2 billion ISK. With that ISK I invested into ISSO and due to uncertain outcome of the stock, it started to drop in price, people where liquidating their stocks believing it would scam. However again, my alliance connection held true once again, with a gut feeling based on information gathered I started purchasing ISSO stock from the two stock exchanges for way under value. Right around this FIN and EMFI where also popular stocks which only held a few hundred million in each. Once ISSO made good on it's repurchase I almost doubled up my investment ISK. I proceeded to purchase and trade EMFI stock which also suffered from the collapse of ISSO, Purchasing stock for about 3,000 ISK each and once Ray built up the stock over a year, I sold them for over 11,000 ISK each, again doubling up. BSAC had started a Mineral Reserve (Not the one you know today) I invested heavily into that I was offered a seat on the Board of Directors, which I accepted. When that reserve closed I profited very well from it also. Shortly before that I did join EBANK as a director and saw a different side of EVE that I thought I knew. While I had made a nearly 20B ISK NAV before hand, I quickly understood the industry side of EVE better than ever before. While we did get paid I used my EBANK pay to simply pay subscription, I started running a personal munitions business in the new Black Rise, dealing with 700 transactions daily for months as I stayed on top giving the perception that Black Rise was not a good market for manufactures and traders. With EBANK consuming more of my time, and people finally catching on that Black Rise is a good lvl 4 Caldari Navy hub, I ended my personal business with the destruction of my production POS in that region. I now explore space, and build my industry character up to do every industry thing possible. This character hardly never trains unless it's a new skill. I explore space in a Legion that uses Drones , can tank lvl 4 DED space and collecting all the goodies. Legion and implants come to nearly 1 Billion ISK dedicated to JUST high-sec exploration. I am not mega wealthy, but I did it all alone, and without asking anyone for a single ISK. According to jEVEAssets my vast BPO inventory comes to just under 85B ISK (Despite forum believe I made a BILLIONS on PI), Assets across my characters come to over 10B ISK, but I have less then 2B ISK in wallets. I don't seek ISK out anymore, I enjoy the game in other ways, but I know countless ways to make a lot of ISK very quickly and have the means to make it happen, but the desire to have lots of wealth is gone. --- Thinking outside the box is good, but when the Box has everything you need, no need to create something new...
megalax	Posted - 2011.07.07 12:06:00 - [23] i started playing the game 2.5 years ago. i was hardly active in the first 9 months only running some missions once in a while and training my character. i remember it was a considerable setback when i lost a mission raven. by the end of those 9 months my nav was 1b ISK. then i increased my acticity. i started running sleeper sites and harvesting gas in unknown space. this allowed me to get more eve accounts and to buy characters. thus increasing the speed with which i was able to earn ISK. 9 months of farming unknown space increased my nav to 150b ISK. one year ago i eventually became an industrialist. i started small but quickly invested the most part of my nav into resources and additional industry characters. today i have characters with more than 700m sp in total and my nav recently passed the 1trillion ISK milestone.
Vernn Miller Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.07.07 17:16:00 - [24] Started trading with something around the sum of 300mill ISK buying all sorts of Angel loots and moving that to Jita and selling for a profit of around 200% and sometimes even more. After a few weeks of doing this I`ve gotten to triple the starting ISK and then got into importing modules, ammo, drones to null sec. During this starting time I`ve gotten a few hate mails from other traders, got my docking rights removed from several stations in Insmother by diplomats (lol HTA) that were trying to enforce a 10% markup over Jita. Fast forward a few months I`ve become a multibillionare doing imports and exports and running a couple of production lines. Another year passed and the above sum pretty much tripled. Haven`t done any market speculation on patch days and items because I can`t be bothered to think that much into the future. The only thing I regret is not buying POS fuels before the Tyrannis patch as I could have easily made ten times more.
Celtru Gallente Coronal Mass Enterprise	Posted - 2011.07.07 18:56:00 - [25] One way is to by PLEX and then resell it in-game. The more PLEX you buy at once, the more money you'll make in the long run selling it. For instance 1 PLEX = 20USD, buy 2 PLEX at once and it equals to around 17.50USD, the more you buy the cheaper they become. Then turn around and sell the PLEX in-game for around 370,000,000 ISK. That's how I've made a nice nest egg for myself. I got all set with the ships I wanted for mission running, as well as a small collection that I'll never take out in much in PVE, let alone PVP. I used to do the share thing back when I played a few years back, now I see there's a dedicated stock exchange, which I need to check out. You used to do that stuff right on this forum. Back before PLEX it was much harder to make ISK, unless you sat in low sec and PVP'd with your Corp mates. I remember when I'd by a Vigilant (my favorite ship of all time) for around 125,000,000, now they go for over 250,000,000!
CtrlAltKill	Posted - 2011.07.07 19:28:00 - [26] Well I have done something similar to what Celtru did. The only difference is I had a particular goal in mind. Buy PLEX buy whatever you are comfortable spending RL currency on. Take them sell them for top isk (i sold them recently at about peak and for 408mil each) then buy up a few more for a bit less. My main goal was to never have to pay for a subscription again and for the last three months I have been able to extend my play time on three different chars just off of buying (in the eve market, the only ones i paid cash for were the initial 4) and selling PLEX. Another great thing i have found to ensure some profit no matter what is be patient and never pay market price for anything. Make sure that everything you buy can either be used by you for cheap or resold for a profit, I have never sold something for less than 2% above what I paid. I was a little off topic because my legacy is still being developed but one day I will be EVE and you all will bow to me and my Economic might! probably not but it makes me feel good to think of it.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.07.07 19:53:00 - [27] Yes, the two posters above who purchased their space bucks sounds like a AWESOME fiction story.. "So tell me Celtru, you're able to afford anything you want in New Eden, it's clear you have untold billions of Inter Stellar Kredit in secret accounts all over the universe. How did you accumulate so much so quickly?" "Well Bozwollox, I have this connection to a parallel universe in which I'm able to spend what is known as Dollars in their universe and though a special shop I'm able to get Concord Pilot license renewal certificates, I simply sell them.." "O...k.... So tell me how you get these so called Dollars?" "Oh see, I don't actually live in New Eden, I actually live in the parallel universe, I have a job there which is based around customer appetite satisfaction." "Oh that sounds interesting, tell me more about your parallel existence..." "Well, I'll try to put in terms you'll understand, there are shops which people go into and order food, I'm one of the people that prepares the food and places their food in paper bags, for them to consume." "Yeah... ok... Thank you for your time and story, I really have to go now.." ------------------ "So tell me CtrlAltKill, you're able to afford anything you want in New Eden, it's clear you have untold billions of Inter Stellar Kredit in secret accounts all over the universe no doubt as you even refuse to identify yourself even in this private setting. How did you accumulate so much so quickly?" "Bozwollox, if I told you, you'd look at me strange.." "It can't be any stranger than the last guy I interviewed, he claimed to have been from a parallel universe and cook food for people, and put it in paper bags.." "There IS ANOTHER ONE?!?!!" --- Thinking outside the box is good, but when the Box has everything you need, no need to create something new...
Darkrftr	Posted - 2011.08.09 06:04:00 - [28] Google my name (darkrftr) to see how I made my first few bill.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.08.09 06:18:00 - [29] Originally by: Darkrftr Google my name (darkrftr) So you can see how important i am. Fixed. Most of these e-billionaires started with Buying isk. fact. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Diraus Omega	Posted - 2011.08.09 08:16:00 - [30] cool idea and its quiet interesting reading how people made there money. my money really came from a 40 mil divided payout from one of the first corps I joined was a massive bit of money to me at the time so I wanted to find a way to invest it. so I set up a few regional buy orders for items in the area I was in within a week i'd turned it into over a 100 mil and expanded from there. now i've got about 4 billion cash, 3 billion in stock to be sold on my trading char, full set of cap compenent BPOs for an ORCA and an ORCA BPO which are in 24/7 production.
Xai Li Shun	Posted - 2011.08.09 09:54:00 - [31] I was going to evemail you, but you've apparently biomassed this char (according to the incredibly-not-buggy eve gate, anyway). If the above is true, where should we evemail?
Drykor Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.08.09 10:12:00 - [32] Started the game and moved to low sec in 2 weeks, before I could even do level 3's properly. I was struggling in my Cyclone as there were no tier2 battlecruisers yet. Soon the Drake was invented and I crosstrained for it, made the first 2 billion running level 3 and 4 missions in low sec (much better payouts if you don't let yourself get ganked), though much of the money was spent on pvp ships again. After a year or so I had quite some isk saved and started another character and trained it for invention. I set up a highsec POS and started inventing/manufacturing T2 stuff there. Also made some money grinding missions to get access to R&D agents. I managed to do that for about a year before I got bored, but in that time made about 10 billion while my main was still pvp'ing and also making the occasional isk from faction spawns in 0.0 and of course random pvp loot. I sold off all the invention assets and just lived off the money I had for a good long while. Also made some money on the side running missions to fix standings for the opposing factions which I had destroyed in my newbie missionrunning career. I still had at least 5-6 billion liquid isk when I joined a wormhole corp and after that I made quite a bit more just running C6 sites. Was able to buy a 7 billion isk character to make it a total of 3 and train them all for capital ships (expensive books). After a while I put that third character in highsec to run Incursions there as I found out the isk is as good as in wormhole space and it's easier to run them. However I don't even tend to use that character that much as I don't need the isk that badly anymore. I am wrapping up some skilltraining on it and will then move it to my second account and stop the third account. Been paying for my accounts with plexes for a long time now and that should save me a plex per month. Now sitting at about 17 billion liquid isk and easily 12 billion more in assets. I never did get smart and started trading though, I probably should as everything I did involved quite some work. --- Drykor - AHARM
Yin Utada	Posted - 2011.08.09 11:55:00 - [33] Theft. This is EVE.
kla samon	Posted - 2011.08.09 12:13:00 - [34] I bought a mod at a ridiculous price and then a month later sold the same mod at a ridiculously low price and had that aha moment. If I was willing to buy and sell at stupid prices then maybe there were others out there who would as well. The rest is history.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc.	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Drykor Now sitting at about 17 billion liquid isk and easily 12 billion more in assets. I never did get smart and started trading though, I probably should as everything I did involved quite some work. This thread is for the space-rich, not the space-pleb.
Glafri	Posted - 2011.08.09 20:28:00 - [36] I made my first few billion selling items not available in other regions. Then proceded to lose almost all of it to a scam sisters of eve probe contract. I made it all back doing the same thing with SOE launchers and probes. At one point I was selling launchers in nine different regions. Thought my gig was up when CCP added probes to the market but it actually worked in my favour. Probably controlled 1/3 of all the probes on the market for a while. Got bored of selling SOE stuff and started farming COSMOS static sites. Saw a market for complete kits. Had a private buyer for my first few months. When his sales dried up, I advertised on the sales forum and the business took off. I went all in with PIpocolypse, investing all of my 8-9b. Missed the real earners with that expansion, but still came out with 27b. Cosmos kits where in crazy demand and I hired a few ingame friends to help me make them. Peak sales last year was in the region on 8b a month. I'm pretty much retired from isk making now. I have 30b+ liquid, 90-100b in assets and invested in characters with a total of 250m SP. If you'd like more just contact me ingame.
Baby Dawl Little Shop of Horrors	Posted - 2011.08.11 03:22:00 - [37] I traded in 0.0 for a while. Wrote about it here. I don't even really think it's because it's a 'secret' that it's hard to tell people. More because it's an instinct, accompanied by a lot of research that it really hard to teach people. I tried to share a few things here, but most trade 'how-tos' are common sense. A lot of the actual trade routes, items, etc. are things you have to figure out as you go. Most people want easy ISK, and don't realize that no matter what people tell you, it takes time and energy no matter how you do it. Unless of course your best friend decided to leave game and give you all his stuff.
Companion Qube Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc SRS.	Posted - 2011.08.11 03:35:00 - [38] I got space rich by drinking heavily and stealing money from other drunk people, true story. ...they see me trollin', they hatin' ♥
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.08.11 04:10:00 - [39] i got spacerich when i had the original misty character, BlockUkx used to pay me 500m a week not to troll his threads, had a few others on the payroll, which are still paying & making bond threads without me in them. eve is sandbox game. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Jak Silverheart Minmatar	Posted - 2011.08.11 06:42:00 - [40] I probably have a few billion in assets from missioning I should get rid of. And another 300-350mil worth of ships I just started building a few hours ago. Than another bil in ships. And a whopping 97mil in my wallet. For a total of 4-6 billion including everything I have I think. Made my first billion by missioning, though I never did have the magical 1billion isk in my wallet, its all been in assets. Currently I am still doing missions, but I am starting branching off into R&D agents, research and manufacturing, as well as some trading. Incarna, giving pilots a single room bachelor pad with a mirror and no beer since 6.21.2011
Black Madness Minmatar Natural Born Builders United Corporations Of Modern Eve	Posted - 2011.08.11 07:40:00 - [41] I am not that rich (roughly 100 B in assets and liquidity), but had a good time mass production scratching T2 ships, 1000 per year. But it is a time consuming nightmare: 120 invention jobs each 12.5 hours can easily drive you crazy. ----------------------------------------- We Buy Bulk Minerals: http://goo.gl/PgDGV
Bad Bobby The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.08.11 11:56:00 - [42] Originally by: Companion Qube I got space rich by drinking heavily and stealing money from other drunk people, true story. This method, best method. I suppose while I am here... In my early days in EVE (2005-2006) I was only a casual EVE player with most of my attention still on other games. I dabbled in most things and just tried to learn the game. I, like many EVE players, lived from hand to mouth with only a few million in my wallet most of the time. Later (2007-2008) I got more involved with EVE and started seriously exploring the market and industrial aspects of the game. I set up datacore harvesting (back then a Mechanical Engineering datacore was worth over 2m) and experienced the joy of a sizeable passive income flowing from my alts. I set up a POS in the Friggi solar system and got into invention, making fairly large numbers of Falcons and Cerberus to sell on the Jita market. I farmed the Caldari COSMOS constellation around Friggi and made a lot of easy isk from that (the rewards were much higher back then as implants were much more valuable). At this point, I had several billion isk to my name and I would guestimate a NAV of around 10b. Then (2008) I got involved with service-based industries. I joined a POS corp to the ZZZ research alliance (run by Ricdic) and started renting my spare research slots to customers. I found this was another good low-effort income source and saw there was a lot of potential for expanding this kind of service. So (in mid 2008) I launched my first IPO to fund another POS corp for the ZZZ alliance in the Bahromab solar system. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=818354 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=825795 I progressively expanded this operation (from 3b to 9b) with public funding until it had 3 publicly funded towers in Bahromab to complement my 2 privately funded towers in Friggi. I took on various tenants and research service contracts and my POSes where busy and highly profitable. By this point I would guestimate my NAV at somewhere around 30b. Then (in 2009) I launched my 4% Bond, which bought out my IPO. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1071177 Then (in mid 2009) I started Titans For You. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1106485 Then (in early 2010) I launched a second Bond at 3%, which expanded several times (to 30b) and funded both research services and a secured loan business: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1251165 Alongside these public ventures I ran several ventures within my alliance and several large private deals with individual customers/investors. By this point I was rolling in isk and assets. I started re-selling Titan BPCs and doing manipulations on the Titan BPC market, which was netting me multiple billions from each trade and tens of billions monthly. At this point my combined public and personal wealth crossed the 1 trillion mark. And then... well, you know what happened then... I bought out my Bonds and "privatised" Titans For You. I've been pretty busy since then, but I'd rather not disclose the nature of all my ongoing operations. Nonetheless, I'm making good progress towards the 2 trillion mark.
Magnu Stormhawk Stormhawk Enterprises	Posted - 2011.08.11 12:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Bad Bobby I've been pretty busy since then, but I'd rather not disclose the nature of all my ongoing operations. Nonetheless, I'm making good progress towards the 2 trillion mark. Cool. You wont mind giving me back my 2.5 billion then?
Kayle Boneclaw	Posted - 2011.08.11 13:26:00 - [44] Nothing exciting. Gone from 300 millions to 2.5 billion in a month from station trading. Only updating orders 3 times a day, before work/after work/before bed. When i first started i spent a couple hours researching whats profitable and where to trade.
Vio Geraci Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.11 21:12:00 - [45] With the exception of Bad Bobby, you guys are the EVE equivalent of the homeless people that go around picking aluminum cans out of dumpsters. Except you are proud of it.
Borkers	Posted - 2011.08.11 22:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Vio Geraci With the exception of Bad Bobby, you guys are the EVE equivalent of the homeless people that go around picking aluminum cans out of dumpsters. Except you are proud of it. We provide a valuable service. If we don't haul freighters full of Tritanium for a 1% profit, who will?
Vio Geraci Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.11 23:15:00 - [47] It's true, bless your little hearts.
Covert Kitty Amarr SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2011.08.12 00:15:00 - [48] I started in 2009, not sure if around 100bil is considered "rich" these days, but I started by building this tool: http://evemarket.logicaldreams.net/ And used it for my first couple months to make an initial few bil. Then started selling subscriptions, which became a decent semi passive form of income. After that I started on patch day speculation, I made a killing on Tyranis, a good amount on most expansions since then. Speculated on plex at one point, and noctis bpo's when they first came out both to good effect. More recently I discontinued my subscription service, and have sold several source licenses for said application for 5 bil each.
Nori Vega	Posted - 2011.08.12 00:27:00 - [49] Probably the most inspiring thread I have read in years, in all honesty. +1
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.08.12 05:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Originally by: Darkrftr Google my name (darkrftr) So you can see how important i am. Fixed. Most of these e-billionaires started with Buying isk. fact. I pledge that Jerry Pepridge has bought isk. Evidence of this Originally by: Jerry Pepridge I Pledge 20b Isk in almost every thread. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Sjugar	Posted - 2011.08.12 12:17:00 - [51] Always been around the 100-300 million mark but with ships to spare. Now after doing 2 months of incursions, made about 8 billion isk, spent 4 of it on gametime a factionship and a tengu and am sitting on 4 billion liquid not motivated to do anything. I was always busy getting rich but didn't know how to get there. Now suddenly I don't know what to buy and cba to log on.
Bad Bobby The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.08.12 12:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Sjugar Now suddenly I don't know what to buy I've never had this problem. One of the great things about the EVE sandbox is that there are plenty of things to do with your wealth no matter how much you have.
Vio Geraci Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.12 17:39:00 - [53] Originally by: Bad Bobby Originally by: Sjugar Now suddenly I don't know what to buy I've never had this problem. One of the great things about the EVE sandbox is that there are plenty of things to do with your wealth no matter how much you have. I dunno. I have limited interest in supercapitals and rare ships that I would never undock.
Starfellow Hawke	Posted - 2011.08.12 18:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Bad Bobby Originally by: Companion Qube I got space rich by drinking heavily and stealing money from other drunk people, true story. This method, best method. I suppose while I am here... In my early days in EVE (2005-2006) I was only a casual EVE player with most of my attention still on other games. I dabbled in most things and just tried to learn the game. I, like many EVE players, lived from hand to mouth with only a few million in my wallet most of the time. Later (2007-2008) I got more involved with EVE and started seriously exploring the market and industrial aspects of the game. I set up datacore harvesting (back then a Mechanical Engineering datacore was worth over 2m) and experienced the joy of a sizeable passive income flowing from my alts. I set up a POS in the Friggi solar system and got into invention, making fairly large numbers of Falcons and Cerberus to sell on the Jita market. I farmed the Caldari COSMOS constellation around Friggi and made a lot of easy isk from that (the rewards were much higher back then as implants were much more valuable). At this point, I had several billion isk to my name and I would guestimate a NAV of around 10b. Then (2008) I got involved with service-based industries. I joined a POS corp to the ZZZ research alliance (run by Ricdic) and started renting my spare research slots to customers. I found this was another good low-effort income source and saw there was a lot of potential for expanding this kind of service. So (in mid 2008) I launched my first IPO to fund another POS corp for the ZZZ alliance in the Bahromab solar system. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=818354 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=825795 I progressively expanded this operation (from 3b to 9b) with public funding until it had 3 publicly funded towers in Bahromab to complement my 2 privately funded towers in Friggi. I took on various tenants and research service contracts and my POSes where busy and highly profitable. By this point I would guestimate my NAV at somewhere around 30b. Then (in 2009) I launched my 4% Bond, which bought out my IPO. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1071177 Then (in mid 2009) I started Titans For You. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1106485 Then (in early 2010) I launched a second Bond at 3%, which expanded several times (to 30b) and funded both research services and a secured loan business: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1251165 Alongside these public ventures I ran several ventures within my alliance and several large private deals with individual customers/investors. By this point I was rolling in isk and assets. I started re-selling Titan BPCs and doing manipulations on the Titan BPC market, which was netting me multiple billions from each trade and tens of billions monthly. At this point my combined public and personal wealth crossed the 1 trillion mark. And then... well, you know what happened then... I bought out my Bonds and "privatised" Titans For You. I've been pretty busy since then, but I'd rather not disclose the nature of all my ongoing operations. Nonetheless, I'm making good progress towards the 2 trillion mark. Dude. Get a Life.
Propagandass	Posted - 2011.08.12 19:19:00 - [55] I am pretty sure 2 trillion would make you even top 100 Eve Richest. But the question is.. are you RMTing it like Viperschizzle?!?!
Taedrin Gallente Kushan Industrial	Posted - 2011.08.12 19:23:00 - [56] Originally by: Kalorned I don't know if I'm considered wealthy or not, I have 6.5 billion in liquid ISK - with another 1-2 billion in assets that could be sold in about a months time. I started as a low-sec mission runner. I befriended a local defense group that lived in a small pocket of low-sec space where there were 3 L4 Q20 agents for my faction of choice. In exchange for helping defend the constellation every once in a while, I was left alone most of the time to mission in that system. I made my first billion doing this. After that, I spent all that money on my PvP main, leaving about 200 million. From there I took the 200 million and began buying low and selling high. I started around December, so I guess when put that way I make about a billion ISK a month (accounting for the occasional whelp of my mains PvP ships and also the occasional goodwill I perform) I could probably make a ton more, but I limit myself to working with only 1 billion ISK at any given time, the rest I just save so I can comfortably PvP on my main. Would that system with 3 L4 Q20 agents in low sec happen to be Yahyerer? I made my first "fortune" there running missions. Was a lot of fun fighting off the pirates and killing all of the bots with the defense group in that area. That was a long time ago though. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
L'Acuto	Posted - 2011.08.12 21:25:00 - [57] Edited by: L''Acuto on 12/08/2011 21:29:14 lTOPl sold 100 GTC for 600+ million each when ROL was first taking space. There was also a rumor that the leader of ROL was some russian aluminum tycoon trust fund kid who paid off the RL leadership of -A- and BoB $10k cold hard cash each to invade goons space back when goons held Detorid, Feythabolis, and Tenerifis.
Jita Bloodtear	Posted - 2011.08.12 21:27:00 - [58] We began as mission runners a few years ago, but it was highly repetitive and didn't match our previous MMO experiences with mass-multiboxing. We quickly shifted into industry and manufacturing in Providence before the fall, and "hired more miners" (made more accounts). We used the GTCs to pay for accounts back then before they were trendy. As our mining ability expanded, so too did the number of accounts we had. We had around 12-15 miners mining dark glitter over in E-YCML, which was the largest organized mining fleet in the game at the time. Right after Dominion hit we demonstrated this by easily becoming the first level 5 industry system. Our nightly fleet size would reach 50-60 miners, the summary of it is here with pretty graphs. We were extracting billions a day. During this time we had been shifting the wealth of our assets into capital component BPOs, and researching them up with a high sec tower alt corp (Bloodtear Labs). We also assembled a high sec freighter fleet of 3 charons at this time which we used to run the nullsec barrier between Dital and KBP for importing minerals and exporting ice. With the imported minerals we began construction of large stockpiles of capital components in a nearby system, and shortly thereafter bought two wyvern BPCs and churned those out. After the sale of the wyverns, and selling off vast stockpiles of ice we managed to buy a researched titan bpo below NPC cost. Then happened the fall of Providence, with CVA provoking -A- and then being crushed as part of a military training exercise by -A- and friends. Evacuation occurred and we joined the NC (the enemies of the SC who destroyed Providence) just before MAX2. We began ice mining again up in Vale of the Silent, this time with 20 accounts (500-600mil/hr), and began CSAA lines for super construction. Expanding exponentially we got up to 5 CSAAs running full time. We were even granted our own solar system based on the merit of our military and industry power, where we took up ore mining, and produced the Industry Report. We gathered together our own private super capital fleet which we used during the NC wars of MAX2 and the downfall of MAX3. Our wealth has been entirely earned through hardwork and our sheer numbers. We have never been in a position of authority where we sap isk from others, never owned any isk printing machines (tech moons), never scammed, never owned any T2 BPOs, nor done any CCP patch speculation. Our PLEX costs are around 13bil a month, and we sport over 35 active accounts. We're worth somewhere in the vicinity of 750bil now. --------------------------- Full Explanation of the Industry Index System
McRuder Gallente The Pit Crew	Posted - 2011.08.12 22:16:00 - [59] I have more ISK than most, and less than some :) I started as a miner mining Jaspet in low-sec with a Navitas, later with a Vexor. I saved my ISK and mined for a Megathron. While looking for a BPC for the Megathron I realised there was much profit in making them. So I made from BPC until I could afford a BPO. During that time I got involved with friends in an alliance that paid me to haul POS fuels out to nullsec. I quickly left the battleship making game and concentrated on supplying POS fuels. At one point I had 4 accounts running 4 freighters supplying fuels. This did me well for a while, until Tech 2 starting taking off, and I got myself into the POS business making components for Tech 2. Eventually I obtained a couple of Tech 2 BPO, and did the a..z thereof. This led to being able to manipulate the market on some goods across several regions. About 2 years ago I sold off all those assets, got into the MD investing stuff until I realized it is just too much work to sift scams from legit. I am just simply loitering these days, slowly losing my isk in PvP. So most of my ISK is from hard work. The effort involved running 4 x Iteron V 40 jumps through nullsec twice a day without Warp-to-Zero is something most younger players would not understand. Today I can make the same profit by running just one level 4 mission.
Angsty Teenager	Posted - 2011.08.12 22:47:00 - [60] Basically my story goes like this. First I joined SCC-Lounge and begged for adestrias until I amassed a great number (5) of them. After that I spent a great deal of time sitting in Amarr trolling spaceship barbie and learning how to trade scam until I realized I sucked at it and barbie blocked me so it got boring. Then I went afk for 3 months. Then I came back and made the rest of my fortune scamming people for 1mil isk (LOL ENDER) in SCC-Lounge until Lauren Hellfury banned me out of maddness (because he's a spaceship barbie alt, and was upset that I was so good at scamming). I also have made a little isk on the side by investing in bonds here in MD, if you check my recent posting history. All of this has amounted to my total NAV of 28,914,361.06 isk.
Angsty Teenager	Posted - 2011.08.12 22:49:00 - [61] Basically my story goes like this. First I joined SCC-Lounge and begged for adestrias until I amassed a great number (5) of them. After that I spent a great deal of time sitting in Amarr trolling spaceship barbie and learning how to trade scam until I realized I sucked at it and barbie blocked me so it got boring. Then I went afk for 1.5 months. Then I made a fortune going to NC space while PL was pewpewing and looting noobship wrecks in my vigil. PL also gave me 50bil to stop stealing their loot. Then I went afk for another 1.5 months. Then I came back and made the rest of my fortune scamming people for 1mil isk (LOL ENDER) in SCC-Lounge until Lauren Hellfury banned me out of maddness (because he's a spaceship barbie alt, and was upset that I was so good at scamming). I also have made a little isk on the side by investing in bonds here in MD, if you check my recent posting history. All of this has amounted to my current total NAV of 28,914,361.06 isk.
Inspi Ron	Posted - 2011.08.13 01:55:00 - [62] I only know off one other char that placed a personal Outpost in game for fun. Think we both gave it away :)
Llyandrian Amarr Livestock Science Exchange	Posted - 2011.08.13 03:14:00 - [63] Made my first billion consolidating slaves from mission runners with region wide buys. I made my first 10 billion doing the same with vitoc and then 100 Billion trading ice products mostly heavy water. I will push well over 200 Billion with the new connections skills, most bought for 6-8 Million shortly after old skill nerf and will hit 25-30 million in next couple of months.

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