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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:34:00 -
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Something has changed.
Can't quite put my finger on it yet.... but something has changed.
I'll figure it out sooner or later.
The moment is suspect.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:35:00 -
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the monocles..... they stopped
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Nishachara
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:35:00 -
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...the calm before the storm...
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Kittel
Caldari
Quiet.Storm
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:36:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Herping yourDerp
the monocles..... they stopped
LOL
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:37:00 -
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Why have you awoken me? 
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:38:00 -
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And so it begins...
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Tiberius Amzadee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:39:00 -
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"I feel a disturbance in the force." I'd say that's the understatement of the month.
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Tob'ruk
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:56:00 -
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May the force be with us
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Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.29 23:10:00 -
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E Luminate
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.29 23:18:00 -
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I feel a disturbance in the 'farce'.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Vierego
Vierego's Junk Imports
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
Not with a preposition. With a verb, end the sentence you must.
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Originally by: CCP Guard
Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
Not yet found the right opportunity to drop this one in the debate, "The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote."
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
So, you're saying i should watch it?
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Xydonus Xavior
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:50:00 -
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Probably just my epic fart just then. |
Yabba Addict
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: San Severina
Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
So, you're saying i should watch it?
I tried watching it, but couldn't get past the 3rd ep. Farscape was much better
Subscription 2.0 û the future is TODAY!
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Jimmy Duce
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2011.06.30 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
So, you're saying i should watch it?
I tried watching it, but couldn't get past the 3rd ep. Farscape was much better
Just start after the Shadow wars have started. I'd suggest season 6.
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Vierego
Vierego's Junk Imports
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Posted - 2011.06.30 04:56:00 -
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I liked farscape, I just felt the characters and theme of Babylon V grew, each episode moved the plot along. It is also on netflix so there is that.
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Vierego
Vierego's Junk Imports
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:00:00 -
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I think this best sums up why I liked it, vs garbage like lost.
Babylon 5 was conceived as a "novel for television", with a defined beginning, middle, and end.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:01:00 -
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Babylon 5 is likely the best Sci Fi story told on television, period. You REALLY want to see the PILOT, please watch the pilot! after that the first season is little rocky, the second season it starts to go, the third and fourth are simply amazing. The fifth, well you need a fifth to finish it.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
I think this best sums up why I liked it, vs garbage like lost.
Babylon 5 was conceived as a "novel for television", with a defined beginning, middle, and end.
Too bad the network put pressure on them to speed it up to get to the action ASAP. The last season was compressed because of it.
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Gurgeh Murat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:11:00 -
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The thing that sets Bab 5 apart is that strazynski had the full five year story arc worked before he pitched it to the network. Thats why stuff in the first series suddenly becomes relevant in the fourth.
Masterpiece, really was. Unfortunately the network screwed it up when they didnt commit to a fifth series, so the fight to retake earth and depose president clarke which should have been in the fifth series got squeezed into the fourth, and alas the fifth series needed filler.
Still a truly epic sci fi series though.
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:26:00 -
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Farscape could some Shadows men..
They were awesome...
Also EVE could use some riddles and strange races, anyone ever played Earth and Beyond when trying to solve the puzzles of the new alien races you met?
CCP and creative fantasy don't seem to mix yet they also develop a fantasy game. LOlz
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:40:00 -
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Greatest sci-fi series do not become MMO's. Check.
If they manage to make it to the internet gaming scene they either are canceled, or the production mostly sucks. Check
We get to stuck we WoW's in space like Star trek or SWTOR. Check.
The only alternative always seems to be spreadsheets and blinking dots in space [EVE Online] Check.
YEP! Deffinately something is not right here!
If you check the humongus volume of epic quality sci-fi that it is out there and has been since the age of Jules Vern, NO wait! Since the age of Lucian 125 A.D. then you realise that the current lack of decent sci-fi MMO quality on the internets IT SIMPLY DOES NOT COMPUTE!
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Main article: List of works by Lucian
Lucian was also one of the earliest novelists in Western civilization. In A True Story, a fictional narrative work written in prose, he parodied some fantastic tales told by Homer in the Odyssey and some feeble fantasies that were popular in his time. He anticipated "modern" fictional themes like voyages to the moon and Venus, extraterrestrial life and wars between planets, nearly two millennia before Jules Verne and H. G. Wells. His novel is widely regarded as an early, if not the earliest science fiction work.[7][8][9][10][11]
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
The thing that sets Bab 5 apart is that strazynski had the full five year story arc worked before he pitched it to the network. Thats why stuff in the first series suddenly becomes relevant in the fourth.
Masterpiece, really was. Unfortunately the network screwed it up when they didnt commit to a fifth series, so the fight to retake earth and depose president clarke which should have been in the fifth series got squeezed into the fourth, and alas the fifth series needed filler.
Still a truly epic sci fi series though.
alright screw it I'ma rent the box set & have a looksee!
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:44:00 -
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bab 5 is awesome!
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Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara ß japanska Tfskuverslun.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:55:00 -
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Is this the thread where I state my disgust for Babylon 5? First couple of episodes I saw, just had my wondering if they hired the worst layed-off scriptworker from Stargate (or possibly Stargate: Atlantis).
I can't even watch ten minutes without feeling ashame for the poor script and (lack of) acting. Not to mention the setting, there was painted "rocks" in the ancient Star Trek that looked better than anything B5 could conjure up..
Guess it has something tho, it wouldn't air if it didn't pull in money somehow. But, it's actually worse trash than some high-profile soaps. Some of you mentioned the characters in Babylon 5. Well there you go, in Days of our lives, Dallas, Falcon Crest or whichever ****ty long-running soap you want, it was all about the characters (and drama). Babylon 5 is just a more embarrassing version of that.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 30/06/2011 08:57:19
Originally by: Misanth
Babylon 5 is just a more embarrassing version of that.
but is has spaceships!
Also, I to feel a disturbance, ah to be a mounted head of fan on the wall of the CCP office right about now...
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Kendra Wilkinson
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:01:00 -
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The vorlon ! they are on our forum !
errhh I mean the moron, sorry!
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Death Fangs
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:33:00 -
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Commander Imran
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:37:00 -
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I have a bad feeling about this.
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Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:38:00 -
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"The CSM is no longer a concern for us. The Emperor has disbanded them and the last remnants of the old Eve are being swept away."
"Without the CSM how will Eve keep the players in line?"
"Fear. Fear of this Walking-in-stations. The regional GMs are now in direct control."
"With the NeX we are now the ultimate power in the Eveverse. I think it is time that we exploit it."
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I'm as mad as I can take it and I'm not going to hell anymore!
I have reassigned my money for CCP to other projects for the next 18 months... |
djenghis jan
Amarr
Debiloff
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:40:00 -
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It must be something we haven't seen yet. ...
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Maziarczyk
Something has changed.
Can't quite put my finger on it yet.... but something has changed.
I'll figure it out sooner or later.
The moment is suspect.
You hear that? That deafening silence? That's the sound of impending doom just over the horizon. It looms waiting to descend upon us all.
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Ivo Eeinhad
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:55:00 -
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"something, something, something darkside, something, something, something the force..."
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Darq Sarkon
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Herping yourDerp
the monocles..... they stopped
Of course. All CCP alts are busy meeting with the CSM right now :-)
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Chuffer
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:52:00 -
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I feel a disturbance in my pants.
Oh, wait..
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Alarion Detheron
Caldari Navy Task Force 62
Rieos Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Babylon 5 is likely the best Sci Fi story told on television, period. You REALLY want to see the PILOT, please watch the pilot! after that the first season is little rocky, the second season it starts to go, the third and fourth are simply amazing. The fifth, well you need a fifth to finish it.
Pretty much this. Babylon 5 was a great series but has a really slow start. But you can't skip the beginning of Babylon 5 because it all becomes relevant in the second season and then really becomes relevant in the third, which makes the first season awesome in retrospect.
But yeah, I agree that the first season (and the pilot) are... really bad, in some respects. It's just something that I'd say you'll have to stomach through in order to get the massive amounts of win later on in the series.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Darq Sarkon
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
the monocles..... they stopped
Of course. All CCP alts are busy meeting with the CSM right now :-)
QFFT^^
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Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:09:00 -
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General Xenophon
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:23:00 -
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WoW till 20
"Popular online role-playing game World of Warcraft (WoW) is to be offered free up to level 20."
I think this maybe teh seckret. Shh! Don't tell anyone!
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Luckytania
Gallente
Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alarion Detheron
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Babylon 5 is likely the best Sci Fi story told on television, period. You REALLY want to see the PILOT, please watch the pilot! after that the first season is little rocky, the second season it starts to go, the third and fourth are simply amazing. The fifth, well you need a fifth to finish it.
Pretty much this. Babylon 5 was a great series but has a really slow start. But you can't skip the beginning of Babylon 5 because it all becomes relevant in the second season and then really becomes relevant in the third, which makes the first season awesome in retrospect.
But yeah, I agree that the first season (and the pilot) are... really bad, in some respects. It's just something that I'd say you'll have to stomach through in order to get the massive amounts of win later on in the series.
Excellent summary.
Yes, basically you have to just 'pay your dues' watching the Pilot and Season 1 in order to have the foundation for the *very* satisfying long term payoff.
Umm, wait, does that kinda sound like something else? :)
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:44:00 -
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Its as if thousands of fans cried out in terror and were suddenly banned. I feel something terrible has happened.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
Faith, manages.
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Theodoros
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:53:00 -
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I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor.
You cannot pass.
The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow!
You cannot pass.
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Nath Blazek
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nath Blazek on 30/06/2011 13:56:53
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Babylon 5 is likely the best Sci Fi story told on television, period. You REALLY want to see the PILOT, please watch the pilot! after that the first season is little rocky, the second season it starts to go, the third and fourth are simply amazing. The fifth, well you need a fifth to finish it.
We are Gray, we stand between the darkness and the light...
If you didn't stick with B5 until episode 6 or so, you missed the best Sci-Fi on tv with the exception of Dr Who. Period.
(btw I'm also a die hard Browncoat so you can catch my drift)
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nath Blazek
(btw I'm also a die hard Browncoat so you can catch my drift)
The battle for serenity valley baby!
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Vierego
Vierego's Junk Imports
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Posted - 2011.06.30 19:22:00 -
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Am I the odd man out that enjoyed the first season of Babylon?
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Kram Marlek
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Posted - 2011.06.30 20:53:00 -
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As said by G'Kar, "...the war had paused, suddenly and unexpectedly. All around us, it was as if the universe were holding its breathàwaiting. All of life can be broken down into moments of transition, or momentsàof revelation. This had the feeling of both.
G'Quan wrote, "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope. The death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future, or where it will take us. We know only that it is always bornàin pain."
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vierego
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bane Necran
And so it begins...
We're under attack by SHADOWS !
Were the last best hope...
Just finished it. I have to say that is the most well developed character wise, consistent, thought out, tv series I have seen in my life.
Although I want to know who the other bad guys are but, I still felt like it closed well. It really evolved.
Meh...
With the growth of cable TV, the strangle hold on new programming by the major networks was broken. Individual TV Show producers could go straight to sindication on numerous cable networks bypassing the major networks and local affiliates.
This spawned a crud ton of new shows. Star Trek TNG, Hercules, it's spin off spin Zena, B5, Techwar, etc, etc, etc, etc... It was awesome. If I missed B5 on TBS, I could catch it later in the week on WGN, or on another afternoon on local tv or...
After a couple years as direct to sindication tv sucked more and more and more viewers away from the 4 big networks and their local affiliates, they began to lobby the USA Congress HARD. "OHs NOs!!!! IT WILL BE THE END OF LOCAL TV AND LOCAL NEWS!!!!!"
So congress was bought off and passed a new law that if a local station carried a direct to TV original run series, the program had to be blocked on all non-local cable stations. I would turn on TBS at B5 time to find a black screen with plain text saying this program blocked.
With the loss in revenue from being able to auction the rights to programs direct to multiple cable stations in first run, the independants slowly started closing up and being forced to go back to the networks.
B5's original 5 year arc was quickly rewrtten, slamming the final 2 years into only 1. Then TBS came up with the money to buy a 5th season of B5, so they had to rewrite again.
The series finally which ran at the end of season 5 was supposed to run at the end of season 4 when it was originally shot.
But, anyway, back to the disturbance in the force.....
"It was our last best hope for peace, but it failed. Now it is our last, best hope for victory."
Microtransactions are something, up with which, we shall not put.
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:27:00 -
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"She told me that I would be killed by shadows."
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Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:29:00 -
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The sleeper has awakened
Release the Monocle
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yabba Addict
I tried watching it, but couldn't get past the 3rd ep. Farscape was much better
I wasn't a fan of B5 during it's broadcast. However, having watched it on video, several times now, I have to say it really is a good story, until season 5. Season 4, imo, was the real ending of the series. The story arcs if you can can hang in through the first season start hooking you in the second season. But the third season you're like a crack addict stealing everything you can get your hands on to get your fix.
The pilot, I've only seen once. You'll enjoy the character development between the pilot and season one. Londo Mallari is by far my favorite character of any series.
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Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Yabba Addict
I tried watching it, but couldn't get past the 3rd ep. Farscape was much better
I wasn't a fan of B5 during it's broadcast. However, having watched it on video, several times now, I have to say it really is a good story, until season 5. Season 4, imo, was the real ending of the series. The story arcs if you can can hang in through the first season start hooking you in the second season. But the third season you're like a crack addict stealing everything you can get your hands on to get your fix.
The pilot, I've only seen once. You'll enjoy the character development between the pilot and season one. Londo Mallari is by far my favorite character of any series.
B5 was by far and away the best written, acted and developed series of sci fi from an era of basically carp.
Farscape was weird sci fi, going back to the days of Flash Gordon and the Saturday afternoon cinema sci fi. Briliantly acted but some of the storywriting wasnt up to the same level.
Firefly, oh for a chance to do that series again. Born in an age of AAD teenagers dribbling over/wanting to be Buffy. Worst crime, Andromeda got more series than it did!!!!
One more I would like to throw into the pot. Space : above and beyond was BSG:2003 styled, well charactirised and ALOT of fun (Chigy Von Ricktohoven). Another show with so much potential born in the wrong era.
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Helena Russell Makanen
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Why have you awoken me?
Nice eye-sphincter. 
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.30 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Sezole
B5 was by far and away the best written, acted and developed series of sci fi from an era of basically carp.
Farscape was weird sci fi, going back to the days of Flash Gordon and the Saturday afternoon cinema sci fi. Briliantly acted but some of the storywriting wasnt up to the same level.
Firefly, oh for a chance to do that series again. Born in an age of AAD teenagers dribbling over/wanting to be Buffy. Worst crime, Andromeda got more series than it did!!!!
One more I would like to throw into the pot. Space : above and beyond was BSG:2003 styled, well charactirised and ALOT of fun (Chigy Von Ricktohoven). Another show with so much potential born in the wrong era.
B5 was well written. That I can agree upon. Actor quality? I'll just say that they had some very talented people, and then a lot were not.
Farscape, you don't want to go there. Post STTNG, it's the best sci-fi out there, imo. Some of their 'quirky' episodes were pure fun. One in particular, I'll concede it was pure crap. Beyond that, the overall quality of the show was top notch.
Firefly, this is another show I didn't watch until video. It had a lot of potential. Ashame it was only one season and a movie. The acting here was pretty good too.
Your side, my side, my side, your side!!
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Theodoros
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:59:00 -
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I agree that B5 is a much better written tv series than many.
Hell, i like it even more that Star Trek.
But for me the best EVER tv show of ALL time is the latest version Battlestar Galactica.
BSG is the undisputed champion off all tv series.
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Majestic Twilight
Amarr
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Majestic Twilight on 02/07/2011 08:14:56
The disturbance you feel youngling.. is SWTOR around the corner......
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