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Alear Montazu
Montazu Mining Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.12 11:14:00 -
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One of the things I have trouble keeping track of is "what the hell price did I buy that thing for"? On the orders screen, it would be pleasant to have the purchase price(last or average, or weighted average of the past week), so I could stop myself from selling in the 6% profit range and move toward 20%.
Yeah, I'm a noob trader, considering this month I've only made 140M. I'm learning this stuff. |

Squizz Caphinator
Happy Endings
170
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Posted - 2014.08.13 19:56:00 -
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I can't be arsed to look through 20 pages to see if this has been asked already...
How do I add stock so that I can see profit on that stock? Let's say I obtained 5,000 knickknacks at a cost of 5m isk total through some means (trade window, contract, looted a wreck, etc.) and then sold that 5k knickknacks for 15m total. That's 10m profit (not counting taxes and fees), however, eve-mogul just shows 0% profit because there is no actual buy history transactions on the item.
I do have an elite account, and I can see where I can remove stock, but no place to add stock  Various projects I enjoy putting my free time into: http://zkillboard.com | http://evewho.com | http://eve-kill.net | http://evechatter.com | http://skillq.net |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
144
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:32:00 -
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Squizz Caphinator wrote:I can't be arsed to look through 20 pages to see if this has been asked already... How do I add stock so that I can see profit on that stock? Let's say I obtained 5,000 knickknacks at a cost of 5m isk total through some means (trade window, contract, looted a wreck, etc.) and then sold that 5k knickknacks for 15m total. That's 10m profit (not counting taxes and fees), however, eve-mogul just shows 0% profit because there is no actual buy history transactions on the item. I do have an elite account, and I can see where I can remove stock, but no place to add stock  Unfortunately, having the ability to directly add stock has potential for abuse. EVE-Mogul strives to provide a trustworthy data source, based off of CCP's API, that can be used to demonstrate profit margins to potential investors. This is a known feature request, and admittedly useful, but we have to provide it in the correct manner. |

Squizz Caphinator
Happy Endings
170
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:13:00 -
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Tweety Bird wrote:Unfortunately, having the ability to directly add stock has potential for abuse. EVE-Mogul strives to provide a trustworthy data source, based off of CCP's API, that can be used to demonstrate profit margins to potential investors. This is a known feature request, and admittedly useful, but we have to provide it in the correct manner.
Is this to keep the leaderboards honest? What if I don't care about my standings? If you allow people to add stock and tell them that they will be exempt from leaderboards if they do, then I'm sure plenty of people would jump on that. Especially if you kept a isk total of stock manually added and profit margin on said stock.
Keep in mind, I could easily game your system (with slight risk) by having an alt put the stock on sale at some obscure station in a not so busy region with a crazy low price and then have my market trader immediately buy that stock at the extremely low price. This is just to tell EveMogul that I have said stock. Then I could move it to Jita to sell and appear to make an obscene amount of profit and top the leaderboards. Not that'd I'd do this, it isn't worth the effort to me - but it's a clear and easy method to step around your limitation of only using CCP's API. Various projects I enjoy putting my free time into: http://zkillboard.com | http://evewho.com | http://eve-kill.net | http://evechatter.com | http://skillq.net |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
144
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:43:00 -
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Squizz Caphinator wrote:Is this to keep the leaderboards honest? What if I don't care about my standings? If you allow people to add stock and tell them that they will be exempt from leaderboards if they do, then I'm sure plenty of people would jump on that. Especially if you kept a isk total of stock manually added and profit margin on said stock.
Keep in mind, I could easily game your system (with slight risk) by having an alt put the stock on sale at some obscure station in a not so busy region with a crazy low price and then have my market trader immediately buy that stock at the extremely low price. This is just to tell EveMogul that I have said stock. Then I could move it to Jita to sell and appear to make an obscene amount of profit and top the leaderboards. Not that'd I'd do this, it isn't worth the effort to me - but it's a clear and easy method to step around your limitation of only using CCP's API. The limitation is put in place for the Reporting Feature and adding stock may be an option in the future. Leaderboards aren't a primary focus, just a fun challenge. Workarounds of established rules are always a possibility with enough motivation, but allowing stocking modification requires no effort, and therefore is not an option at this time.
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okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
68
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Posted - 2014.08.17 12:22:00 -
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Love the new additions. Quite a suprise coming back from vacation. Few things:
1) Cleared "completed order notification" when viewing completing orders. A more interactive way of doing that may be better: I looked at my completed orders without doing anything. When I logged to EVE a day later to actually update expired orders I forgot what they actually were and had to go looking at the completed orders and figure out which one was the last one I took care of. (Hard after a 2 week vacation).
2) Completed order notification should contain info whether order expired or was fulfilled.
3) Option to sort orders by expiry date.
4) An option to see more then 20 orders in a single page. Annoying to go through 380 of orders 20 at a time.
cheers. |

Jeronica
Tackled In Belt xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:06:00 -
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okoolos rimmer wrote:Love the new additions. Quite a suprise coming back from vacation. Few things:
1) Cleared "completed order notification" when viewing completing orders. A more interactive way of doing that may be better: I looked at my completed orders without doing anything. When I logged to EVE a day later to actually update expired orders I forgot what they actually were and had to go looking at the completed orders and figure out which one was the last one I took care of. (Hard after a 2 week vacation).
2) Completed order notification should contain info whether order expired or was fulfilled.
3) Option to sort orders by expiry date.
4) An option to see more then 20 orders in a single page. Annoying to go through 380 of orders 20 at a time.
cheers.
1) Added a new system, will remove the auto-clearing of notifications after this is tested and well liked. There's a new button to "archive" an order, removing it from the current display and also setting a different row style to it when displayed. You can filter the archived orders out via the filters dropdown to make things easier.
2) I added the more verbose notification. If someone can verify it's working that would be great. I don't do enough volume trading to reliably test that notification.
3) Added in, filter between issued/expiration date on filters dropdown. I added a toggle because the table would start to become too wide.
4) Changed the default to 50. I may add a custom preference for users for this later on, should be easy to customize. EVE-Mogul: https://www.eve-mogul.com CEO/Programmer Trade Profit Tracking Service |

okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
69
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:36:00 -
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few issues/suggestions for the orders page:
1) Sort by "remaining".
2) Indicator of which filter is selected.
3) Option for a more user friendly format of "expires" date. Instead of "2014/11/12" maybe " 5d 8h 10m". Similarly on the order details tab instead of saying order issued on 2014/06/06 we could also have something like "order issued 23 days ago 5h 6 min ago". Looking it up on the calendar gets tedious. Another solution would be to hover over the date and get "5d 8h 10m" that way.
4) Some sort of a way to search for orders expiring at a certain frame of time. So if for example I'm going away for the weekend and I want to know which orders expire then. Perhaps the calendar date filters we already have could be used?
5) "number of orders displayed" info on top?
6) page/tab/pop up or whatever with a short summary of how many orders each alt has at a glance. Ex: alt 1: 100 buy 50 sell alt 2: 50 buy alt 3: 24 sell.
7) On the order details page when you click order transactions and "tasks" you get item description. Not sure what "task" is supposed to be and getting item info on that is a bit confusing. I would propose that "task" could be changed to "hub price" and it would get item price from a trade hub.
8) option to save filter/search criteria currently selected for quick access. |

Aldur Saken
Prometheus Trading Holdings
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:31:00 -
[429] - Quote
Any chance you can add Archive transactions so that my profits look right |

Batya Savage
Raion Investment
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Posted - 2014.08.24 08:58:00 -
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Thanks for the great tool!
I would also like to see a feature that makes possible to add transactions manually. For example if I buy stuff via contracts it would help a lot if that cost could be manually added to the EVE-Mogul. |
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Malkys en Daire
Malkys INC. Yulai Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.08.28 13:09:00 -
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Testing it atm. It's overall a very nice tool.
Two things: My orders don't update, although in API setup I can see that API was pulled multiple times since changing them. To correct my stocks, I canceled a lot of orders and corrected the stocks. Is there a known issue?
+1 for manual change of stocks. For me that is an very important tool, which would saved me hours of work, because when you have a pretty busy trader toon or some more that you migrate to your tool, the stocks will be wrong most of the time because of buy transactions older then one month etc. Also there are several reasons why you will not have a proper buy transaction for stock: contracts and trades from other toons, hangar cleanouts etc.
Keep up the good work! When that order issue can be cleared, I will use this tool in the future.
edit one more thing about stocks:
Would be very handy to access the stocks directly, not only for items from orders or transactions, to keep stocks clean! |

Panteraa
Bermuda Tax Haven
0
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Posted - 2014.09.21 04:30:00 -
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I have an elite account. Why do I have to wait 8+ hours for my transactions to update? It is currently 04:30 eve time, and the last item listed in my transaction log is at 20:08 eve time, with dozens of transactions since then.
What gives? |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
145
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:27:00 -
[433] - Quote
No. |

Patty Loveless
Minute to Midnight
3
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:58:00 -
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First off, nice tool. Thanks for your time on this.
I have have to agree with pushing for wanting to manually edit stocks (or setting a base-cost if unknown). Understanding the want to limit 'abuse' of this to essentially cook your books, what about simply having a warning on the (public) reports with something like 'Manual Stock Adjustment: +198,223,445.82 ISK' ? I too have stocks that are well over a month old (some are over two years old tbh) I know what my cost was/is on them and like to be able to see those profits included. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when a price is unknown the profit is 0%, which KILLS the report anyways since I know, for instance, my averaged profit is well above 28% on my goods atm, yet eve-mogul reports 9-10%. Ironically maybe, this issue hurts new users of the platform the most, leading to many who don't investigate to think that eve-mogul is just inaccurate/misleading, trumping your try to make it trusted in the first place.
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Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
3
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:41:00 -
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Will this application simply track the P&L of stuff that I have in a similar way to the old EvE HQ Prism Expenditure and income feature? |

Jeronica
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
351
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:23:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:Will this application simply track the P&L of stuff that I have in a similar way to the old EvE HQ Prism Expenditure and income feature?
Not following the questions you're asking, if you're asking if it looks at your expenses and intake and just finds the difference, the answer is no. It tracks buy transactions, stores it as stock, and when you sell an item it uses your recorded stock price.
Quote:I have an elite account. Why do I have to wait 8+ hours for my transactions to update? It is currently 04:30 eve time, and the last item listed in my transaction log is at 20:08 eve time, with dozens of transactions since then.
Please, if you could evemail me your account name I'll have a look.
As far as adding/editing stock, there's enough people wanting it I'll get it added in ASAP. ASAP meaning in probably 2 weeks once I get my other coworker started and my responsibilities have been reduced. With that change, I'll adjust the stock system quite a bit so it's easier for both you and the system to work with. EVE-Mogul: https://www.eve-mogul.com CEO/Programmer Trade Profit Tracking Service |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
172
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Posted - 2014.10.04 17:23:00 -
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Hi Jeronica, on the 26th I paid for 3 months and on the 30th my character API was flagged and I have not been showing any transactions history =( TAUTX: Private Bank and Lending TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items |

Kudos12345
Republic University Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2014.10.04 20:09:00 -
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Jeronica wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Will this application simply track the P&L of stuff that I have in a similar way to the old EvE HQ Prism Expenditure and income feature? Not following the questions you're asking, if you're asking if it looks at your expenses and intake and just finds the difference, the answer is no. It tracks buy transactions, stores it as stock, and when you sell an item it uses your recorded stock price.
So to clarify and there are other people who are unaware how eve-mogul tracks profit is,it stores the original price of the bought item aka "stock" and when the said item is sold at the current market price it calculates the profit (or lack off) which it than adds up giving you the profit value. I hope this is correct, I personally calculate my profit via asset appreciation, my buy orders plus my sell orders plus my liquid isk and if any, stockpiles in my hangar, all at as near to the current market price as practical. Now I can see how this way would be prone to abuse for a public profit web board, as I could value that single piece of trit at a billion isk (although for private use, cheating like this would defeat the purpose of why people fake profits). So an accurate formula as to how eve-mogul calculates profit would be helpful. |

Jeronica
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
351
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Posted - 2014.10.05 16:32:00 -
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Kudos12345 wrote:Jeronica wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Will this application simply track the P&L of stuff that I have in a similar way to the old EvE HQ Prism Expenditure and income feature? Not following the questions you're asking, if you're asking if it looks at your expenses and intake and just finds the difference, the answer is no. It tracks buy transactions, stores it as stock, and when you sell an item it uses your recorded stock price. So to clarify and there are other people who are unaware how eve-mogul tracks profit is,it stores the original price of the bought item aka "stock" and when the said item is sold at the current market price it calculates the profit (or lack off) which it than adds up giving you the profit value. I hope this is correct, I personally calculate my profit via asset appreciation, my buy orders plus my sell orders plus my liquid isk and if any, stockpiles in my hangar, all at as near to the current market price as practical. Now I can see how this way would be prone to abuse for a public profit web board, as I could value that single piece of trit at a billion isk (although for private use, cheating like this would defeat the purpose of why people fake profits). So an accurate formula as to how eve-mogul calculates profit would be helpful.
The formula? ((sell price - buy price) * quantity) - taxes = profit
It seems like CCPs API servers were down for a few hours one day, and everyone's character was flagged. I'll run some code to reactivate everyone's character. EVE-Mogul: https://www.eve-mogul.com CEO/Programmer Trade Profit Tracking Service |

Sasall
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.10.09 18:40:00 -
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API Pulls are rly rarely
Last API Pull: 2014-10-09 14:41:23
over 4h and still no new pull ... |
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Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
166
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:16:00 -
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Am I missing something when looking at the profit graph because my wallet/assets don't tally with the readout? According to them I should be far richer than I am lol.
But still, great work. Very slick and concise for what it needs to do. |

Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
166
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:16:28 -
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Am I missing something when looking at the profit graph because my wallet/assets don't tally with the readout? According to them I should be far richer than I am lol.
But still, great work. Very slick and concise for what it needs to do. |

Mahuran
Disb4nd
0
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:28:00 -
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API Pulls not working anymore? My last one was around 1:30 AM... |

Mahuran
Disb4nd
0
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:28:49 -
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API Pulls not working anymore? My last one was around 1:30 AM... |

B1RD
Oracons Systems Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:12:00 -
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i have only had 1 API pull so far today. is something broke?
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B1RD
Oracons Systems Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:12:10 -
[446] - Quote
i have only had 1 API pull so far today. is something broke?
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Betty Business
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.02 15:50:37 -
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New user here. The tool looks decent, and I am giving elite a try for a month. Was curious about a few things. Where can I find how much I have lost/spent on Broker Fees and Taxes? I used to use EVE-Neat and it had a monthly chronological overview of my dealings, is there something similar on EVE-Mogul? Maybe I don't have enough data logged with the service yet?
Here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about on EVE-Neat: https://www.dropbox.com/s/499e71ba40oc5zk/Screenshot%202014-10-31%2020.47.01.png?dl=0 |

Mahuran
Disb4nd
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 10:51:11 -
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If I add several APIs from different Chars/Accs, does it all sum up in the profit chart? So if I buy with 1 char from Amarr and then sell it on another char in jita, I will get the profit calculated? |

TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
256
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:11:35 -
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Mahuran wrote:If I add several APIs from different Chars/Accs, does it all sum up in the profit chart? So if I buy with 1 char from Amarr and then sell it on another char in jita, I will get the profit calculated?
I think so, seems to do it for me. |

StabHore
Minute to Midnight
0
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:26:23 -
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Don't get me wrong, the tool is nice, but it is very misleading for anyone doing anything more than station trading. For instance, I also supplement my marketeering with both invention/t2 production and buying bpcs/materials and building items for a profit. Also, if you buy stuff through contracts and then sell, there is 0% profit. It would be nice to be able to capture the profits from these types of activities as well. (Setting a base cost on an item for instance)
If you don't have the buy data on an item, okay, but that should mean it gets locked to 0% profit, it should just simply not be included in the profit calculations at all, including being a 0% profit transaction that brings down your average. |
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