I was a big fan of eveprofit and when the code got released I uploaded it on to my own server but never had the time to get round to developing on it.

Like previously mentioned some of the things you have added are a great assets to such a program.

What would be nice would be, if you know the price bought, what would be the RRP to sell the item to keep it above your threshold or the minimum needed to sell at so that you at least break even.

Otherwise keep up the good work, its fantastic!

Can your software take into account refining/reprocessing of materials? That is, if I buy a lot of meta 1/2 loot and refine it, and sell the minerals, does it still track profit, somehow? Same with ices and ores.

i had 1 problem with "old" EveProfit.

This is: putting some item (or amount of items) into IGNORE for tracking of sell. Example: i bought 1MN MWD for 1 mil for myself, then i bought 100 MN MWD for 10k and started to sell for 500k. Then i will get info "bought for 1mil, sold for 500k, loss - 50%". Putting that first 1MN MWD into IGNORE i will have info "bought for 10k, sold for 500k, you'r rich!"

Whenever I develop the stock module, showing your current stock/value/etc, I will have a way to remove stock without "selling" it. For example you purchase a hurricane for personal use, but you're also trading hurricanes, you can remove one hurricane from your stock. This is what I think you meant to mean, am I correct?

You got it right, thanks! I meant exactly this. Just failed at writing...

It's not good to post in forums while your SIP library is building...

Wait, are you saying that this has the ability to track profits per transaction now? I thought that was nearly impossible to do.

So if I had a buy order for a Cap Recharger II at 500,000, and I sold it days later for 555,000, it would report the exact profit of that item at 55,000? And not some average or anything? And can you export this data to Excel?

You are correct. It would actually be 55k, minus the transaction tax.

how do you calculate this? FIFO? LIFO?

Has anyone encountered any bugs? Errors? Anything looking not right?

One thing that would be a great help would be the ability to ignore a buy. For example, I recently bought about 2 Billion in items to resell, which were then blown up when getting hauled by a hauling company. I got the collateral back, so I did not lose anything in the deal, but now my profits are going to be all off, becasue when I re buy the modules it will be at different prices. So it might show a loss on the items when I sell them if they sell for less then what I paid for the modules that were destroyed. This would also help with items that are for personal use. That way they just would not be in the stacks that you pull inventory out of.

Any thoughts on the cause of an HTTP 500 error when refreshing a character wallet in the character page?
He's listed as having 0 isk but he has around 8B.

Confirming that the transactions are empty on my characters as well.

I typically move 1B in goods per day so there should have been some transactions in the past hour or two.

It doesn't look like your account was ever activated, i set it to active.

That was because I had a minor derp incident and didn't see the activation email for my original account. My actual account has Egan Aideron & Noel Audeles on it. Username *ross*@gmail.com

edit: I think you're missing the ancillary shield booster item names on the market order page. I have two slots without names, I 'm selling xl + medium ASBs, and I don't see them on the list.

I am working on fixing the transaction pull. I have a good idea of what's going wrong. I will get it fixed by tonight.

Hope you get to feeling better! there's no rush with updating it I was just letting you know the errors I have been experiencing.

A few things I noticed. About an hour ago I checked the wallet and it showed the correct information for my last 100 wallet transactions... But it was about a month old (august 20-24th ish) I then refreshed just recently, and all the wallet transactions are up to date!

Another Issue I ran across was that all the orders are correct except 2 in the market orders, One of the buy orders has already been filled (Isogen) and one sell order (raven navy issue) was cancelled and moved to another location where I put it up for sale again. It now shows both versions of the same item being currently sold even though only 1 is a current active sell order.

Apologies if this does not make sense I tried to give you the exact errors.

Thanks very much,
Cipio Hakoke

I hope you feel better :)

It looks like there is a bug that can occur when calculating profit when an item is bought on one character and sold on another. I'm being told that I'm losing 1.06% on nearly every sale, but I know that isn't the case. Here's a screenshot for quick reference: http://i.imgur.com/I3ty8.jpg

I'm a work right now and can't really get you more info, but I know those numbers aren't right. Let me know if you need more info :)

I ran into that issue as well. All my wallet transactions have a -1.52% profit reguardless of the item.

EDIT: also supposedly I am down -6.9 bil in "recorded profit"

Alright from what i see in the past 100 wallet transactions I see:
14 sell orders at -1.52% profit
(a lot of buy orders those all have 0% profit some have a price of 0 others have the cost I payed for them)
1 sell order that has 100% profit although it is the exact same item i am selling that has some of the -1.52% profits.
a lot of sell orders with price profit and profit % at 0

hope this helps!

EDIT: just to be clear the 100% profit one was also sold as the exact same price as the -1.52% profit ones.

I think you broke the user page.

https://market.tackledinbelt.com/user is blank for me in Chrome and IE from both my work and home computer. Rightclick -> View Source shows no source.

I just tried to create an account and login. I used your link to generate an API. I get the following error:



Severity: Warning

Message: file_get_contents(https://api.eveonline.com/account/Characters.xml.aspx?keyID=1428309&vCode= KG5wdsq4z6OO8gzLGoUFihLWZvJdnRU0QdpuFE40HfVa9OQit2piWWmyh4jCtBDrsqrkf6pYSwKp93Fx2jUr2pTlnQ7oWEAOExOYta): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request

Filename: models/charactersmodel.php

Line Number: 38

Any advice?

I just tried to create an account and login. I used your link to generate an API. I get the following error:



Severity: Warning

Message: file_get_contents(https://api.eveonline.com/account/Characters.xml.aspx?keyID=1428309&vCode= KG5wdsq4z6OO8gzLGoUFihLWZvJdnRU0QdpuFE40HfVa9OQit2piWWmyh4jCtBDrsqrkf6pYSwKp93Fx2jUr2pTlnQ7oWEAOExOYta): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request

Filename: models/charactersmodel.php

Line Number: 38

Any advice?

This is what that screen showed jsut a few seconds ago: API Status

Orders Cached Until: 2012-10-30 01:24:50
Journal Cached Until: 2012-10-30 00:54:50
Transactions Cached Until: 2012-10-30 00:55:03

We are already past that time, does it automatically updated, or do I have to do something to get that to update?

I signed up and it shows my current market orders but not my wallet transactions. Does it take some time for this to populate?

It doesn't seem like my data is being pulled from the API (though it does have my wallet total). Here's what the management page says:

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00

Ok,
I have been using this fo a few days now and I would like ot offer some kudos/constructive criticisms. Overall, you have a great tool that is certainly headed in the right direction.

First the suggestions:

1. You need to clean up the interface a bit. While you have lots of good data, it is sometimes hard to figure out where to go to find that data.
2. Market Orders need to be sortable, and also have a column for the station they are at, and the percentage remaining. IE, I need to be able to sort them alphabetically, by the station or by price.
3. Need to be able to take a purchase "out of inventory" if it was for personal use, or in my case, ganked by the goons on a freighter
4. The profit graph is nice, but I would also like a table version of the same data, just to quickly get actual numbers (I know you can hover over each day), but a table is really effective at displaying this kind of data. I know you already have these numbers, it is just displaying them in a different way. Make sure to include an average profit per day!
5. Please add station info to the wallet transaction page.
6. More report options please. there are so many great reports you could generate with the data you have. Best selling item, more profitable items, average days to sell, a historical table of monthly and weekly profits....etc.

Kudos:

1. The investor report is a great idea, and I have never seen anything like it on other products. Very nicely implemented!
2. I am old school, and love the ability to print that you have built into a lot of the reports.
3. It is impressive that you built a market browser into the software. I am sure I will use this a ton.
4. I also like the leaderboards.
5. Great customer service, you guy have been very good about helping with questions and solving problems. That is key if you are looking to make money on this eventually. I would gladly pay at least 50m isk per month for this functionality. If you can improve it further it would be worth more.

Please feel free to contact me via evemail if you have any questions regarding my suggestions.

Regards,

JG

It doesn't seem like my data is being pulled from the API (though it does have my wallet total). Here's what the management page says:

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00

getting the same issue.

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00

Been stuck with this for 4 hours I think.

Signed up yesterday, hasnt pulled for me yet.

Does this only handle char keys and not corp keys?

The service isn't updating for me.

Also, I'm assuming that the functionality to work out the profit from industry jobs is not there, and profit is only calculated from orders of the same item that you've bought and sold?

Yeah, I've been stuck on this for a while. There are three sources of income that I can figure out:

1. Buy item from market, sell for higher price (trade)
2. Buy minerals from market, manufacture item and sell (manufacture)
3. Receive gift of either materials to manufacture or sell directly (gift)

It's impossible to tell at the moment where you received an item (because they could've trashed some items and then you have orphan stock records). The cases where 'gift' comes into play is when a character gets minerals from mining or moon mining (or PI).

You can then cost the transaction at opportunity cost, so you calculate profit with each buy order and each industry job. Since we can't do 'proper' accounting, we have to frig the profit and calculate it at each step. For instance, I mine 20 trit, I build a Raven (let's say that is how much trit it takes to build it). The profit I make is the Raven minus 20 trit at Jita sell price.

If I buy 20 trit, then the profit is the above calculation plus the profit I made on buying that 20 trit (so we buy 20 trit @ 6 ISK when Jita is selling for 7 ISK - that makes 20 ISK profit from buying that trit at the lower price). We can always sell that trit at sell price now, but we decided to make a Raven and sell it, hoping that we could get more than 7 ISK per trit for our time and skill.

By calculating the profit at each step, that makes it easier for us to track - as we don't have to keep track of items we've bought and then check them off, instead we compare everything to market prices and assume all our assets are that price. If we buy something, we profit; if we sell something, we profit, and so forth. This method makes it easier for us and we don't have to do FIFO or whatever. In a perfect world, I guess FIFO would be unnecessary as there would be a global market index of every item in the world, and our accounting systems would use that to calculate profits instead.

The above is my thoughts on getting profit on a per item basis. Global profit day per day is easy in comparison since we only have to compare our assets to the last API call, and the difference in the account balance. I'd be interested if anyone else had some thoughts on how to get a true profit figure for a char/corp?

Severity: Notice

Message: Trying to get property of non-object

Filename: models/charactersmodel.php

Line Number: 63


CharList Retrieved

and a 404 in the title, when trying to manage my character.

Just checked your information, seems like API didnt pull when you checked. It pulled on the next cronjob after you looked.
Your transactions and profit should be populated now.

Having this same issue.

I started a mogul account yesterday, but it only seems to import the last 100 transactions. Made a new API key and tried again, but still no graphs generated or orders imported. Am I just too impatient?

It's not the same problem as mentioned above:

API Status
Orders Cached Until: 2012-12-08 14:14:06
Journal Cached Until: 2012-12-08 13:44:31
Transactions Cached Until: 2012-12-08 13:44:28

I only pull the last 100 transactions in the transactions page. I am going to move away from that way of displaying info, and migrate to an order view with more info.

I'm also recoding the orders module, it's being inconsistant and I've seen a few bugs.
As for the no profits displaying, I see it is starting to calculate profit just needed some more data to generate graphs and profit.

is there any way to reset the stats ?

Also, if I fiddle about with the "Stock WIP" like remove items from there, does it affect the "profit" stats.

It seemed to work great until I started fiddling with the Stock WIP and then the profit tab got pretty messed up, and since then I-¦ve tried to delete the character and adding a new API and but doesnt seem to reset the stats.

I-¦m also wondering, in case more then 100 transactions happen between pulls, is the extra info lost ?

I have a feature request.

Be able to run a report on the profits by item across all users.

The report can be redacted so individual users are not shown but location and item would be interesting.

I know that some secrets might be in there but I would think it would be interesting to see across the MarketMogul user base what types of transactions are being done to what level of profit.

Thanks,

Another thing, what timezone are you using? could you maybe add a clock, just to make it easier?

Can you please timestamp lines on https://www.eve-mogul.com/user/notifications < thx.

And please make a HIDE all button. Ow, it exist, then, please align it to the right. Thx.

I'll add that into the next revision, and move the hide all be aligned to the right.

It looks like I've patched the issue with API pulls. Will wait for a few hours and check again (currently at 11 thousand transactions to sort through). Please be patient until it catches up (may be several hours).

You need to make a new account.

Hey,
thank you for this awesome tool!

I have just one stupid question, how do I remove characters from my account?

I have been trying to test it out for a day or so now, but I was wondering why some market transactions in the SELL category do not have the corresponding profit % calculation. Is this just due to not having the original price point the item was when BUY was initiated?

Hello Jeronica,

Nice start to your website. I have been trying to test it out for a day or so now, but I was wondering why some market transactions in the SELL category do not have the corresponding profit % calculation. Is this just due to not having the original price point the item was when BUY was initiated? The layout and design of the website is great, but more tools will be needed if you plan on generating monthly isk.

Here are my suggestions:

1. Investor reports could be a huge selling point. Most traders look for seed money to increase their market penetration into higher luxury items.

2. Net worth and current asset calculations would be helpful to see how much liquidity you have. You can base this on average volume of items sold for that asset to put a liquidity 'score' together. Basically how fast could you really firesale your "stuff".

3. Most active trade systems used for both buy and sell. Profit margin calculation by assets (like a top 10 list), and again raw isk generation regardless of margin. Volume is a big deal to a lot of traders; their margins may not be stellar, but their volumes are godly. Cater to those traders as well.

Good luck, and looking forward to testing more.

Love the continuing development.

Since the 0.5.7 update, the transactions haven't been updated. I don't think the cron job is working.

Hey, I was wondering - Do you know why I'm getting a Access Mask Invalid error?

Haha Scratch that, I got it working now.
I should get some sleep before posting in future.
Is the API pull borked?

Looks like an interesting site.

I shall poke around for security vulnerabilities.

I'm glad to say that I have optimized the database,the API import and he profit calculation functions to be more efficient and a lot quicker.

You should find that your transactions are processed quicker, and that your API is pulled more frequently.

I still cant get it to work, says last pull was 1970. Can you verify that it is set up correctly? It is pulling my name and wallet total just fine, but not tracking anything else. I changed nothing from the preset API info

Awesome work! I can certainly tell a difference from the update.

ON EDIT:

One question though.. in the section labeled 'Market Orders', under 'Character Orders' there appear to be some missing. Are the orders for items that I created myself not shown there? Thats what it looks like maybe.

That's understandable, as I said its still really useful and is probably even more so for station traders and non-industrial merchants. In my case there are orders listed but thy aren't comprehensive of my offerings. It seems that the things that ive made and sell aren't always listed. I can look at it closer and compare the two lists and see what exactly is missing.

Looking at it again today, under Market Orders I don't have any 'sell' orders listed. However if I Browse Transactions under this character it does show multiple sales today, which were all made by sell orders.

I haven't been able to figure out which ones it is pulling, and which it is ignoring, but today at least it looks like its only listing Buy Orders.

Thanks!

This is not the site you're looking for....

This is what i get when i visit the website??

//Edit... When i goto www.eve-mogul.com it works, but eve-mogul.com doesn't.
"Wget push index.html"

I get a 500 server error every time I try to submit API ID and Verification Code.

I think the new API killed all the nicest of trading tools out there.

I really like the idea behind the site. It offers some nice improvements over eve-profit but it also has a lot of issues which makes the whole site borderline usable.

First of all , the api pull and process cronjobs are really slow. I've been using it for the past couple of days and it takes between 3 and 6 hours for the site to pull the transactions. And once these are pulled, it takes another 6 hours for them to get processed. This is just unacceptable for someone who plays actively plays the market. I also don't like the fact that the whole api-pull process is very nontransparent. I mean in eve profit you had a timer and once the itmer ran out you had your data. Simple and deterministic. Here, there is some weird queue which I don't really understand how it works. When will I get new data? Why is it that the profit-processing cronjob is separate from the data pull? I keep seeing the loading icon in the top right telling me that some cronjobs are active but I haven't been able to notice any effect this "notification" has on my data.

I also stumbled on some bugs related to the api pull in form of "missed" transactions. These are (old) transactions which I can see in eve but they do not show up in eve mogul. Here is an example:

This is a screenshot from my eve transaction history
This is a screenshot from eve mogul
Notice how the 14:41 transaction is missing from eve mogul.

I think if the author could work on the performance issues it would drastically improve eve-mogul's feel.
Either way, thanks for the effort and keep up the good work.

Thank you for your contribution! This is great!

have an issue with my Corp Wallet total has not updated for a few weeks now, although all of my transactions and orders have been updating correctly.

Would it not be possible to develop a 3rd party tool so we could request an api pull from our end and then upload the data directly to the site, as it does take a long time for my Data to update, some notifications are a day late.

Allot of items I buy and resell are bought via contracts as well, would it be possible for us to manually enter in stock / add an in game browser feature for uploading a contract and the site automatically divides the total cost of the contract by the quantity, not sure if this would be possible or not ?

Allot of people buy items off the market and then turn them into minerals, if it was possible for us to give these items in our stock page a unique marker :

tick box : 'marker X' use this item as cost for minerals

Once you have sold all of your minerals in the Transaction page you can have a Mineral Transaction button that takes all of the minerals sold into a table with tick boxes.

The transactions that have been marked by the tick boxes would be added together and called 'minerals sales 09/05/13. Once this was created the original transactions for the minerals would be archived so your left with one total transaction.

The New transaction would have a tick box / dropdown 'use marker X' as cost then we can see the profit margins.

The buy transactions that are marked by X would also need to be archived once added to a sell transaction to avoid having huge unique markers

This isn't going to be 100% accurate and I think it would be an easy feature to add ?

Hi, I just wanted to stop by and say WOW, what a fantastic site. I can't believe I've just now stumbled across it. Thanks for all of your hard work, I'll be looking forward to every new release. I noticed there is a "premium user" tag, can you point me to somewhere that explains what that means. Thanks again bro, the site is a godsend !

Hi,

Website looks really promising, however, i'm having a couple of issues with it. I added a corporation to my account and it took about an hour or two for it to pull the info from the API and then also process the data and start updating the graph, which was fine. The problem is that the API has been pulled two more times now (soon to be a third I think) and yet none of the profits have been updated / the "cronjob" has been running continuously without any sort of outcome since the first API pull. Also under manage corporation, it states "Cached Journal: 0000-00-00 00:00:00", I don't know if that's of any help but it didn't look right, so i thought i'd throw it in anyway

Thanks for the site anyhow :)

The cronjob being displayed is system wide, meaning it's running for everyone. I'll be looking into optimizing the pulls further to increase the rate of them being pulled.

Currently i use a program called Eve Nexus (in case you've ever heard of it), and once the API pull has finished it calculates the profit in under a second, so even with a few thousand eve wallets to go through the update time after an API pull would be hard pressed to reach over 3 hours.

Heh, and there was me thinking java was a relatively slow language o.0 then again, haven't had any experience with php. I never realised a difference in language could make that much of a difference anyhow ( I always thought it was minimal and only necessary when dealing with global data etc).

I do all my purchases on one char and all my selling on another. Is there any way to track the profit across these two characters?

Unhandled Exception
Message:

simplexml_load_file(https://api.eveonline.com/account/APIKeyInfo.xml.aspx?keyID=2510027&vCode=aX934KnJuXAR1cKIxadxo46RA6refvswvwFfH1rGLSIwdWsy6LpdLd4kzuHLPy9i): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden

Location:

/var/www/evemogul/application/controllers/characters.php on line 80

Stack Trace:

#0 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/laravel.php(42): Laravel\Error::native(2, 'simplexml_load_...', '/var/www/evemog...', 80)
#1 [internal function]: Laravel\{closure}(2, 'simplexml_load_...', '/var/www/evemog...', 80, Array)
#2 /var/www/evemogul/application/controllers/characters.php(80): simplexml_load_file('https://api.eve...')
#3 [internal function]: Characters_Controller->post_add()
#4 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/routing/controller.php(325): call_user_func_array(Array, Array)
#5 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/routing/controller.php(285): Laravel\Routing\Controller->response('add', Array)
#6 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/routing/controller.php(165): Laravel\Routing\Controller->execute('add', Array)
#7 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/routing/route.php(153): Laravel\Routing\Controller::call('characters@(:1)', Array)
#8 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/routing/route.php(124): Laravel\Routing\Route->response()
#9 /var/www/evemogul/laravel/laravel.php(167): Laravel\Routing\Route->call()
#10 /var/www/evemogul/public/index.php(34): require('/var/www/evemog...')
#11 {main}

Here's an error I get when trying to add a new character to eve-mogul:

That makes sense, however what I was trying to say in my post is that it doesn't seem to be the rate of API pulls that slows the updates, but the rate at which the profits are calculated after an API pull. In my case it looked like the API was pulled 2 or 3 times before the transaction / profit page was actually updated. My thinking is that once the API pull has finished and you have the data downloaded, the updating of your local database and profit calculations should be reasonably quick? Unless you're dealing with a seriously large amount of data (which you may be, i'm not experienced enough to judge really).

Currently i use a program called Eve Nexus (in case you've ever heard of it), and once the API pull has finished it calculates the profit in under a second, so even with a few thousand eve wallets to go through the update time after an API pull would be hard pressed to reach over 3 hours. The source code (in case you're interested) can be found here on github.

Also sorry if it seems like i'm "attacking" the website or your ability in anyway, that's really not my intention, I simply want to try help you improve the website in any way that I can as I can see some serious potential in it.

Thanks for reading and thanks for your time.

Same here. Great site btw. Helped me to get back into trading because its so much easier to track profits across multiple accounts.

Im going through mogul withdrawl.... halp.

Same. Jeronica where are you!

When pulling from the api, are you doing calls asynchronously, using threads, or serial 1 at a time?

Hello all,

Server is now back up and running.

I have devoted the majority of my free time (as limited as it is currently) on working on the new code. I expect to have a public release in the next 3-4 weeks as I can only put aside maybe 3-4 hours a week tops for other coding. If any of you are interested in an alpha test of 0.6.0, send me an evemail and I'll get you situated.

It's telling me that the website seems to be untrusted (I'm using Firefox Nightly) and that the connection may be insecure. Can you check please?

Not to take away from Eve-Mogul as it was/is a great tool.

However I have a similar site setup called EVE-Merchant that I am actively developing on that you can use.

Forum Link

Version 1.0 is up.

http://www.eve-mogul.com/

You'll need to create a new account, couldn't merge the two database cleanly. I do have a data import tool though, accessible once you log in.

Some notable changes:

• It is now subscription based, 50mil/month, but every user is given 3 day trial to get set up.
• New user interface, bringing speed enhancements to the majority of the site.
• New server, with better hardware. Other server was getting dated.
• Reworked backend. I rewrote the backend to be more efficient.

Any issues, feel free to evemail me, post a message here or chat with me in our channel: "EVE-Mogul".

I've been meaning to ask. What is "Elite" status i see on some guys?

I've been meaning to ask. What is "Elite" status i see on some guys?

All my transactions show up twice on the table - though only one of them gets calculated. It clutters things up a bit and also not sure if twice the work needs to be done on the back-end, is it pulling the info twice?

Also I second Zosius I liked the 7-day profit graph too!