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uyoi	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:08:00 - [1] Edited by: uyoi on 01/07/2011 01:25:48 Let's have a look at the numbers. http://eve-files.com/dl/245020 (If you're having trouble dealing with the non-standard right-to-left time axis, have a look at a mirrored version by Tom Gerard here.) A few things to take away from this picture: 1) The effect of ô18 monthsö was delayed by a few months (if it had any effect at all). 2) The lead-up to Incarna was the worst of all expansions (at least as far back as RMR). 3) Much has been made of the lack of spike in peak activity for Incarna, but spikes in average activity are usually only visible in the weeks after an expansion. It'll be interesting to see how the activity develops over the next few months. If the forums and ragequitters are to be believed, the downward trend will continue without a spike in average activity.
Havak Kouvo	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:10:00 - [2] Dude. The graph is backwards. Most people read from left to right with the left most side of the x axis being the earliest point and the right most being the latest point. Do you know how hard it is to adjust to a backwards graph like that?
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:11:00 - [3] ITT: Butthurt nerd makes meaningless graph _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:12:00 - [4] I miss Apocrypha.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:12:00 - [5] Edited by: Tippia on 01/07/2011 01:13:24 Originally by: Jerry Pepridge ITT: Butthurt nerd makes meaningless graph ITT: Butthurt nerd can't deduce meaning of computer-made graph. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Convex Enterprises	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:12:00 - [6] So really all you're doing is displaying how their marketing techniques weren't quite as good this round. Because that is what the 'build up' is caused by.
Vasaczk	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:14:00 - [7] That graph means nothing in relation to Incarna. All it shows is pre-Incarna information... You need to revisit your title.
uyoi	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:15:00 - [8] Edited by: uyoi on 01/07/2011 01:15:16 Originally by: Havak Kouvo Dude. The graph is backwards. Most people read from left to right with the left most side of the x axis being the earliest point and the right most being the latest point. Do you know how hard it is to adjust to a backwards graph like that? There I fixed it. Better?
Typhoon Warfreak Caldari Definitive Exploration and Excavations	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:16:00 - [9] Ummm, this shows me that for every new expansion pack released, there is a drop in players. So the drop from Incarna is following the same trend. So does that mean there is nothing to see here?
Tom Gerard Caldari RPS holdings Auctorita Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:23:00 - [10] http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8611/unledjc.jpg Fixed by Tom Gerard
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:23:00 - [11] Edited by: Tippia on 01/07/2011 01:23:46 Originally by: Typhoon Warfreak Ummm, this shows me that for every new expansion pack released, there is a drop in players. So the drop from Incarna is following the same trend. So does that mean there is nothing to see here? It shows that every new expansion is accompanied by a sharp spike in player activity that then decreases over time. Until it gets close to the next expansion. What he's hinting at is that we haven't seen much (or any) of the that pre-patch build up or activity spike in connection to Incarna. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Typhoon Warfreak So does that mean there is nothing to see here? Exactly. Server activity levels are back to Apoc levels, even thought there are supposed to be many more active accounts nowadays (2 years later.) Incarna = Nothing to see here
uyoi	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Typhoon Warfreak Ummm, this shows me that for every new expansion pack released, there is a drop in players. So the drop from Incarna is following the same trend. So does that mean there is nothing to see here? What I am saying is (a) that the lead-up to Incarna could have been better and (b) that the real effects of the current ragequitting hype may only be visible in a couple of months (based on the effect of "18 months"). Or what Tippia and Benri said.
Randomy Andven	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:31:00 - [14] Edited by: Randomy Andven on 01/07/2011 01:31:10 How is this graph hindering my fun? EVE was better 8 years ago with less players and stuff, every bitter vet knows that.
Discrodia Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 01/07/2011 01:13:24 Originally by: Jerry Pepridge ITT: Butthurt nerd makes meaningless graph ITT: Butthurt nerd can't deduce meaning of computer-made graph. QTF Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
Typhoon Warfreak Caldari Definitive Exploration and Excavations	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:33:00 - [16] I agree, it'll take time to figure out what this rage-quitting does. I'll state now that it won't be as bad as people claim. CCP isn't mindless (to a degree), and if 10k people quit, we should see about a 5% drop in activity, if what is said is to be believed (with so many contradictions in that thread, I find it hard to). Incarna I think just couldn't get that build up, simply because the build up was by several patches, rather than one major addition. I think that major addition (although disruptive), could have been a better implementation. It'll be interesting to see where it all goes from here.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:38:00 - [17] Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 01/07/2011 01:38:58 the graph is meaningless coz it is out of scale. last i checked tyrannis wasn't released 10 days after dominion. next time you guess graphs, put more thought into it. EDIT: OP & all the other butthurt nerds raging on forums, have just been owned with authority ITT. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Convex Enterprises	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 01/07/2011 01:43:48 Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 01/07/2011 01:42:47 You all fail to realize the overall trend. Its been going up steadily since its release. It has its ups and downs, but overall its been climbing. Infact, they've doubled their player base since Revelations
Mister Smithington	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 01/07/2011 01:38:58 the graph is meaningless coz it is out of scale. last i checked tyrannis wasn't released 10 days after dominion. next time you guess graphs, put more thought into it. EDIT: OP & all the other butthurt nerds raging on forums, have just been owned with authority ITT. ITT: Butthurt troll doesn't understand graph and tries to accuse others of the same.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Mister Smithington ITT: Butthurt OP doesn't understand graph and tries to accuse others of the same. FYP. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
uyoi	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:47:00 - [21] Originally by: Terminal Insanity You all fail to realize the overall trend. Its been going up steadily since its release. It has its ups and downs, but overall its been climbing. Infact, they've doubled their player base since Revelations The entire rise in activity happened between Revelations and Apocrypha. As you say, it has its ups and downs, but overall the activity hasn't risen since Apocrapha.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:48:00 - [22] Originally by: uyoi The entire rise in activity happened between Revelations and Apocrypha. As you say, it has its ups and downs, but overall the activity In the most popular timezone hasn't risen since Apocrapha. More failed logic. FYP for you. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Mister Smithington	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Originally by: uyoi The entire rise in activity happened between Revelations and Apocrypha. As you say, it has its ups and downs, but overall the activity In the most popular timezone hasn't risen since Apocrapha. More failed logic. FYP for you. The all time graph shows daily average. Try again.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Mister Smithington The all time graph shows daily average. Try again. Which is effected by timezone. try harder tippia _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
uyoi	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Originally by: uyoi The entire rise in activity happened between Revelations and Apocrypha. As you say, it has its ups and downs, but overall the activity In the most popular timezone hasn't risen since Apocrapha. More failed logic. FYP for you. I don't want to feed the troll, but just in case this is unclear for anyone else: these are daily averages (that's also why the numbers don't get near the PCU records).
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:52:00 - [26] Edited by: Mr Kidd on 01/07/2011 01:52:21 nvm ;)
Mister Smithington	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Which is effected by timezone. try harder tippia You made two statements, both delusional.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:54:00 - [28] Originally by: uyoi I don't want to feed the troll, but just in case this is unclear for anyone else: these are daily averages (that's also why the numbers don't get near the PCU records). You have fed me enough with your inability to make a graph. did you just take a guess? can you explain why the gap between incarna & Today is roughly the same timeline as between Tyranis & Dominion. Guess that makes your graph worth about 200,000 Zim dollars yes? _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:54:00 - [29] Edited by: Tippia on 01/07/2011 01:56:43 Originally by: Jerry Pepridge the graph is meaningless coz it is out of scale. last i checked tyrannis wasn't released 10 days after dominion. Well, that's ok. The graph isn't saying that either. Quote: next time you guess graphs, put more thought into it. Where's the guess? The dates correspond to the patch days. If you want to sound less butthurt, maybe you should provide some cogent point, like pointing out places where there are days missing or where bars are wider than they should be so your "out of scale" claim has any kind of substance. Until then, no ownership or authority will be yours. Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Which is effected by timezone. try harder tippia No, averages are averages. They are not affected by time zones. And why should I try harder when he's saying it? Originally by: Terminal Insanity You all fail to realize the overall trend. Its been going up steadily since its release. It has its ups and downs, but overall its been climbing. Infact, they've doubled their player base since Revelations àand what you fail to realise is how Incarna has bucked that trend, when it shouldn't ù in fact, it should have made an even larger spikeà ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.07.01 01:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Tippia Burrhurt hurf flurf You don't get to use the word Butthurt with a signature like that im afraid. Maybe your new i don't know. point is the graph is wrong, & you nerds ate it up like it was christmas pudding. _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.

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