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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
697
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:41:00 -
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Andski wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Andski wrote:General Nusense wrote:that website is a load of crap. fair and balanced like fox news. oh no what a readership we lose in the NPC alt crowd And it's that attitude right there that makes Themittani unpalatable to so many. The fact you believe we're alts because we would rather sit in an NPC corp than join groups of people like you only reinforces the negative opinions so many have of the group you represent. continue pretending that a character with zero indication of in-game use is not a posting alt
hmm so i am a alt? wow didn,t see that one coming
If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive
Sony decision |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2732
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:43:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:hmm so i am a alt? wow didn,t see that one coming
Yes apparently anyone in an npc corp is an alt, fancy that. 
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2694
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:48:00 -
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Goon logic....there is non like it.
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Sigmund Frued
EoE-Group
154
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:53:00 -
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Inzeresting, he seems tzo sink his eyes are on top of his head, instead of thze front... |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
250
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:58:00 -
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Andski wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Andski wrote:General Nusense wrote:that website is a load of crap. fair and balanced like fox news. oh no what a readership we lose in the NPC alt crowd And it's that attitude right there that makes Themittani unpalatable to so many. The fact you believe we're alts because we would rather sit in an NPC corp than join groups of people like you only reinforces the negative opinions so many have of the group you represent. continue pretending that a character with zero indication of in-game use is not a posting alt
No, people realize that the Bee's will do anything to bee relevant, why would they want to bee harassed ingame by a bunch of Bee alts? 
A swarm of Bee's in that sentence!
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
743
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:10:00 -
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Aziesta wrote:As much as it kills me to say this, I think the goons have done a good job with this site. I expected "lol, we're winning all the things", but they do report on their losses, even embarrassing ones. From what I can tell it's actually fairly unbiased and well-rounded.
Now excuse me while I go take a chlorine bath in an attempt to feel clean again.
sometimes but not always.
the website claimed the miner buff was the end of eve, just whining nullbears who can't gank a ship with a dessie. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2736
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:14:00 -
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James 315 wrote:I disagree. In fact, I personally have written two full-length features on highsec which have been published on TheMittani.com and a third already submitted for review.  Yes, and they certainly cater to Themittani's target demographic.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
385
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:The first article I read in the_mittani website was an anti-carebear rant. It is not "fair and balanced" as it is being purported to be. But I guess if it works for Fox News... And what gives with all these shameless plugs to the website? Every day there's a thread on "how awesome the website is and how everyone should be reading it"  . Look at the guy who doesn't understand what an opinion piece is
Then stop selling it as balanced and objective when all it really is an opinionated anti-hi-sec campaign and propaganda machine.
When James315, the "Glenn Beck" of everything that is anti-hi sec/carebear/industry, is your most notorious writer of that website, then you really shouldn't be advertising it as fair and balanced because it isn't. It's the Fox News of Eve Online.
Again, nothing wrong with targeting your own demographic. But the website is being shoved to us every day like it's bias-free, when it most certainly isn't.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4699
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:18:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Andski wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:The first article I read in the_mittani website was an anti-carebear rant. It is not "fair and balanced" as it is being purported to be. But I guess if it works for Fox News... And what gives with all these shameless plugs to the website? Every day there's a thread on "how awesome the website is and how everyone should be reading it" . Look at the guy who doesn't understand what an opinion piece is Then stop selling it as balanced and objective when all it really is an opinionated anti-hi-sec campaign and propaganda machine. When James315, the "Glenn Beck" of everything that is anti-hi sec/carebear/industry, is your most notorious writer of that website, then you really shouldn't be advertising it as fair and balanced because it isn't. It's the Fox News of Eve Online. Again, nothing wrong with targeting your own demographic. But the website is being shoved to us every day like it's bias-free, when it most certainly isn't.
It's explicitly an opinion piece. Believe it or not, even reputable news sources publish those.
Want to know what's funny? We've approached empire-based players and asked them if they're interested in writing for the site. None are willing - James 315 is literally the only highsec-based writer we have.
please leave |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:19:00 -
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As the lead dev for themittani.com
This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2744
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:19:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:When James315, the "Glenn Beck" of everything that is anti-hi sec/carebear/industry, is your most notorious writer of that website, then you really shouldn't be advertising it as fair and balanced because it isn't. It's the Fox News of Eve Online.
Again, nothing wrong with targeting your own demographic. But the website is being shoved to us every day like it's bias-free, when it most certainly isn't. Amen....
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations
76
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:30:00 -
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It looks as if my joy as a player at finding a new resource to take up my time while wandering through the intertubes has pulled out some very funny responses. I must start buying stock in virtual tinfoil companies. That said, I must be really bad at searching or the hyperbole over the number of times the Mittani.com has been "pushed," on the forums is just that, knee jerk hyperbole. I wonder why it is so hard for so many players to discuss something with an easy exchange of information and maybe facts (if applicable)?
If you don't like it don't read it. Don't have a real opinion, no reason to make up one. And I wonder why the Goons are stomping the rest of Eve.
But as an "alt," of some nameless Goon I should keep the answer to that question to myself. :) |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures
Tribal Band
135
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:40:00 -
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Must have been pretty inactive for a while, didn't notice mittani made a site to rival eve news 24. Guess he hates rivani that much to go and steal his gig.
I think the atmosphere of the site is defiantly better. A classy logo, though the background could be like that of eve fourms and be a cosmic solar flair and stars and be even better. |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:47:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Robus Muvila wrote:As the lead dev for themittani.com
This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. You should be ashamed. Of course Goons will be Goons and troll us you have so I guess you can't help it.
You. I like you the most. 
http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2746
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:47:00 -
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Andski wrote:Want to know what's funny? We've approached empire-based players and asked them if they're interested in writing for the site. None are willing - James 315 is literally the only highsec-based writer we have. What self respecting citizen of highsec space would want his or her identity attached to a Goon run news source? James315 may be highsec based but he is hardly a representative of the highsec community, as I'm sure many posts have made clear.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2710
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:03:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Andski wrote:Want to know what's funny? We've approached empire-based players and asked them if they're interested in writing for the site. None are willing - James 315 is literally the only highsec-based writer we have. What self respecting citizen of highsec space would want his or her identity attached to a Goon run news source? James315 may be highsec based but he is hardly a representative of the highsec community, as I'm sure many posts have made clear.
I can say from my personal experience....even highsec players that do not have ANY self respect would not write for this pile of something.
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations
81
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:40:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Andski wrote:Want to know what's funny? We've approached empire-based players and asked them if they're interested in writing for the site. None are willing - James 315 is literally the only highsec-based writer we have. What self respecting citizen of highsec space would want his or her identity attached to a Goon run news source? James315 may be highsec based but he is hardly a representative of the highsec community, as I'm sure many posts have made clear.
This is so arrogant. Who made you the arbitrator of the hisec community? James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
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Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
285
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:55:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:I like it. I've been checking EN24 less lately, too.
I hate EN24
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
285
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:57:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Andski wrote:Want to know what's funny? We've approached empire-based players and asked them if they're interested in writing for the site. None are willing - James 315 is literally the only highsec-based writer we have. What self respecting citizen of highsec space would want his or her identity attached to a Goon run news source? James315 may be highsec based but he is hardly a representative of the highsec community, as I'm sure many posts have made clear. This is so arrogant. Who made you the arbitrator of the hisec community? James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow. Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
All that really means is that he is representative of a portion of the highsec player base. Not even a large portion if I'm not mistaken, given there are more people ganked than ganking last I checked.
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2769
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:04:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2724
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:14:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism?
hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name...hmmm
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Jonah Gravenstein
1279
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:21:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground and has written a manifesto on how to cause optimal grief for industrialists and casuals is representative of anything but sadomasochism? Mars Theran wrote:All that really means is that he is representative of a portion of the highsec player base. Not even a large portion if I'm not mistaken, given there are more people ganked than ganking last I checked. Exactly, mere observation of demographical forum posting speaks for itself. I tried to start my EVE career as a non "carebear" but man some people just put the ick in prick.
What James315 is doing is nothing new, he's just good at marketing an old idea and he's having some fun doing it. There is nothing to prevent you doing it to him or god forbid even setting a merc corp on him as he has now left the NPC corp and is open to wardecs.
Personally I think it's as amusing as hell, gave him some iskies and did some artwork, any player created content in hisec is a good thing.
CCP can't patch stupid. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
736
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:21:00 -
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Not a big fan of blogs but I read some from known players. Sometimes I don't like it sometimes I do, but information in this blog (TheMitani.com) is well written (important for not english native) and offers the opportunity to who whants to disagree to expose his own arguments, witch for me makes it an interesting blog and not exactly one sided vision/version that turns out being misinformation.
brb |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2769
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:22:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism? hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name... hmmm
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bill O'Reilly played EVE, hell I bet Ann Coulter does too! 
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2725
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:27:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Tiger Would wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism? hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name... hmmm Honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bill O'Reilly played EVE, hell I bet Ann Coulter does too!
Exactly......My money would be on James 315 actually being O'Reilly....Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas?
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2770
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:34:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas? A few... lol
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2725
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:35:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Tiger Would wrote:Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas? A few... lol
That many huh....
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:37:00 -
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Not that this matters to all of the Riverini alt characters and en24 sychophants, but even as a GSF memeber I prefer to get my news about what we do from themittani.com because unlike our jabber broadcasts and 2nd hand information gathered during fleets and chats, there are detailed, accurate writeups of things I missed while not being logged on and instead of having to sift through these awful forums or CAOD for alliance shakeups, it's all there and as fairly reported as is possible.
We have articles from Lazerspewpew of all people, a person that I guarantee most of GSF and the CFC at large despise. He's like el-chupacabra for anyone who likes to rat or do pve things in our space, and yet there he is writing about how he owns us all. We had an interview with the leader of NC., who we all hate pretty much and are actively destroying. Don't tell me we're biassed. You want biassed? Get your news from our jabber (we know you have spies), you want accuracy? Read the website. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2726
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:41:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:because unlike our jabber broadcasts and 2nd hand information gathered during fleets and chats, there are detailed, accurate writeups of things I missed while not being logged on and instead of having to sift through these awful forums or CAOD for alliance shakeups, it's all there and as fairly reported as is possible.
Things like...."How'd the moon get there? Who put it there?"
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations
83
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:53:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.
Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground and has written a manifesto on how to cause optimal grief for industrialists and casuals is representative of anything but sadomasochism? Mars Theran wrote:All that really means is that he is representative of a portion of the highsec player base. Not even a large portion if I'm not mistaken, given there are more people ganked than ganking last I checked. Exactly, mere observation of demographical forum posting speaks for itself. I tried to start my EVE career as a non "carebear" but man some people just put the ick in prick.
This is splitting hairs here. He's a representative of the hisec voice. If you think there is another voice that needs to be heard, make it heard. I'm not saying he's right; at best he amuses me with his role-playing. It's fun but at times it is also a bit out of hand and slips into bombastic bullying. However Hisec is not just industrialists and miners. I think hisec participants have to accept that gankers, ninjas, wardeccers etc.. are all part of that family.
But I digress. The entire point of this thread was that I thought Mittani.com was a good addition to the overall voices in the metagame. The news realm in particular which has been held hostage to EN24's biased ranting as of late. Most of what I've heard in response is "gross it's a goon!" Pathetic. Overall Goons are pretty damn low on the list of threats to hisec.
Moving on.
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