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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
567
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:41:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:It almost seems like to really excel in this game one has to pick and join an outside community, then run with that clique in game.  There is a reason this has become a popular way to do things. Basically you create a cultural identity around your group. This keeps the group tight knit and gives you a solid core to base from. As if choosing the right corporation wasn't tricky enough. 
It's no different than joining any other guild, the difference is you want to find one you mesh well with so you stick. I mean who do you respect more? Someone who bounces from corp to corp and alliance to alliance every day? Or the guy who has stuck for several years? I'm pushing two years with Goonfleet. Meanwhile with the exception of the NPC alts that post around here so often I'd wager that the vast majority of the folks here have seen a half dozen space guilds that imploded, or they hated, or no one logged in, or something bad happened and they ran away... etc etc etc.
To me that's a sign that we're doing something right, that everyone else is doing something wrong.
A lot of people forget what the main focus of eve is for our directorate. A lot of people get lost in messages like "Destroy Eve" or "Destroy Highsec" but really one way is just a troll and the other is a means to the end. The end is providing a place for our membership to have fun in whatever way they choose in the Eve online universe. We didn't burn Jita to make your life miserable. We don't really care that much to be honest. We don't kill people on gates, or take space, or troll on the forums because we hate you all.
Hate takes up a lot of energy. We do it because it gives us something fun to do. Shooting freighters in coms with a bunch of whooping and hollaring people is fun. Going out on one of Suas's fleets to have him wipe out the enemy then play us a song on his guitar... is fun. Talking to people and forging alliances, getting other people to do what you want in order to provide greater entertainment for your membership is fun. Getting a spy into another alliance is fun.
What isn't fun? Mining rocks. Mining rocks isn't fun. PVE in eve? Isn't fun. We got lucky and were given one of the richest regions in the game, and we've conquered even more riches since then, all in the name of bankrolling the fun of our membership. A battleship death doesn't break me. Even when I have no money. This means I can sally forth in my spaceship and shoot shoot shot my lasers at enemies, at friends, at whatever and have more fun. |
Tesal
43
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:LOL!!!!
Look at you dance! the puppetmaster defense is pretty cliche of bad posters it's like you're trying to be a bad poster Rarely do people TRY to be bad at posting. Usually they think they're bloody posting superstars. But actually, they're morons.
I'm a superstar. Shut up!! I won't listen any more. *blocks ears*
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1481
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:11:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:I mean we spent an hour in the PNDN system the other night because our FC wanted to sing a funny song about it, and we were all laughing and singing with him.
We don't take this game seriously. We're here to have fun. We find the people who take this game super seriously to be a bit creepy and unhinged. And yes we do have a few of those creepy unhinged people in our own alliance. We make fun of them.
Wait, what op was that? Is there a recording? Please tell me there's a recording.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Tesal
43
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:28:00 -
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I read a couple of articles on the site. The one I read by James 315....meh. Puff piece. "The carebears all need to learn......"
By the way, I remember back when BoB was around, the forum trolling by Goons was unbearable, especially on CAOD and is one of the reasons it pretty much died. It was an organized event for them. "fofofofofofofofo" Remember that? Goons troll less these days and do a lot more serious posting, frankly taking the role BoB used to have as bossman, which is what I see themittani.com being about. Goons are trying to be serious, which seems a bit like a contradiction in terms. |
gulftobay
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:44:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:
-snip-
We got lucky and were given one of the richest regions in the game.
-snip
I don't normally cherry-pick quotes, but this could probably use context. Sorry, had to do it. :)
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Ghazu
189
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:55:00 -
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gulftobay wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:
-snip-
We got lucky and were given one of the richest regions in the game.
-snip
I don't normally cherry-pick quotes, but this could probably use context. Sorry, had to do it. :)
Anybody can be given space, but you also have to hold it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1481
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Posted - 2012.09.17 06:23:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:gulftobay wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:-snip-
We got lucky and were given one of the richest regions in the game.
-snip I don't normally cherry-pick quotes, but this could probably use context. Sorry, had to do it. :) Anybody can be given space, but you also have to hold it.
Yeah, we had friends.
(Insert something about blobbing and a sea of blues here)
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1325
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:LOL!!!!
Look at you dance! the puppetmaster defense is pretty cliche of bad posters it's like you're trying to be a bad poster
I am pointing out the fact he is dancing around the fact DBRB is in goons. You can attempt to separate yourself from it by tossing out some smoke and mirrors going on about penny arcade and "technically he is in goons, but not really". No one is buying it.
You said where are they now? Well the guy who orchestrated the video mocking 9/11 is Dabigredboat and he was in Goonswarm at the time and has been in it ever since.
So Andski, you can lie all you want claiming he is not in goonswarm, but he is. Anyone can look him up now and see he has been in goonswarm since 2007. Anyways, I will leave you with your posting style terminology so you can feel witty and such. I will use a more direct and simply description of yours. A lie.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Empress BJ
FOF Research
9
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:25:00 -
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Wow mittens site
Who knew hookt on foniks werkt 4 gewns 2
Good job bees!!
~E~ |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
709
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:33:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:I'm checking out the Mittani dot com and it is such a refreshing gale force of sweet summer wind after the
endless speculative crap that are some of the other outlets. Have people checked out this site and are they enjoying it?
It's basically EN24 with flashier graphics..Make of that what you will.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 08:38:00 -
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gulftobay wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:
-snip-
We got lucky and were given one of the richest regions in the game.
-snip
I don't normally cherry-pick quotes, but this could probably use context. Sorry, had to do it. :)
Chabam the magicman....O rei...ehm James would say
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1325
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Posted - 2012.09.17 08:41:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:I'm checking out the Mittani dot com and it is such a refreshing gale force of sweet summer wind after the
endless speculative crap that are some of the other outlets. Have people checked out this site and are they enjoying it? It's basically EN24 with flashier graphics..Make of that what you will.
This pretty much sums up the whole thing to be honest. Just slanted the other way.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 08:45:00 -
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Are you guys going to publish that rejected article or not?
Are you telling me that you guys are silenced by themittani.com |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:26:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Posting in a "troll for more publicity" thread. Pretty witty! I like it. Have you checked out the site or do you know of any others that people should check out to increase their metagaming enjoyment? I'll stick with EVE News 24, they don't leave me feeling dirty after reading it. Sorry but Themittani just has too much goon stigma around it, should have named it something else and kept it away from that. It's kind of like Fox News, even if they run a really insightful story, it's still Fox News.
You might be right.
That thought also crossed my mind.
It probably would be a lot more interesting to a lot more people without the clear goon signature.
Mittens was right about not using his name would be better.
If the site looked and was titled and promoted completely neutral they would have tripled the number of readers every day probably.
Whether the contents are neutral or not, I might add.
Not saying the following names are better, but as example:
EvE independer
New Eden Daily (weekly)
The Procurer
EN24
And if you really wanted to use Mittens name, put it in an acronym..."Hail the Mittani Daily".....HTM Daily
(just an example)
I also see someone say anyone "mildly" literate and talented can send in pieces and wont get rejected, I highly doubt that.
Lets pretend I am mildly literate and talented....and wrote something to be published
Would you publish?
I think Ide see arguments like "we dont do scrubs"...
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
710
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:32:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Posting in a "troll for more publicity" thread. Pretty witty! I like it. Have you checked out the site or do you know of any others that people should check out to increase their metagaming enjoyment? I'll stick with EVE News 24, they don't leave me feeling dirty after reading it. Sorry but Themittani just has too much goon stigma around it, should have named it something else and kept it away from that. It's kind of like Fox News, even if they run a really insightful story, it's still Fox News. You might be right. That thought also crossed my mind. It probably would be a lot more interesting to a lot more people without the clear goon signature. Mittens was right about not using his name would be better. If the site looked and was titled and promoted completely neutral they would have tripled the number of readers every day probably. Whether the contents are neutral or not, I might add. Not saying the following names are better, but as example: EvE independer New Eden Daily (weekly) The Procurer EN24 And if you really wanted to use Mittens name, put it in an acronym..."Hail the Mittani Daily".....HTM Daily (just an example) I also see someone say anyone "mildly" literate and talented can send in pieces and wont get rejected, I highly doubt that. Lets pretend I am mildly literate and talented....and wrote something to be published Would you publish? I think Ide see arguments like "we dont do scrubs"...
Well like any site one or two posts can alter the perception of who they are siding with, to be honest it't like the press in any country, you need to buy 3 or 4 papers to read in-between the lines to get the truth in any story.
At least with having the "Mittani" TM brand will give it some exposure which is all most websites want.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:40:00 -
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The brand is the problem due to a stupid mistake.
A bit like:
One day all the milk from holycow was taken out of the supermarkets after finding large amounts of it being poisened due to a lack of coating on the inside of the packaging.
First thing you need to do to be able to remarket it is rename it.
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Kraken.
314
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:48:00 -
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I don't think we need to pretend the name is the problem people have with the website. They're coming up with enough imaginary issues for themselves to have problems with anyway. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
710
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:56:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:The brand is the problem due to a stupid mistake.
A bit like:
One day all the milk from holycow was taken out of the supermarkets after finding large amounts of it being poisened due to a lack of coating on the inside of the packaging.
First thing you need to do to be able to remarket it is rename it.
Exactly what is wrong with the brand though??
It's up to the reader to determine if the information provide has any slant. The reader knows what he is getting when he goes to the website.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:57:00 -
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The name is the root cause for people having issues with it.
Imaginairy issues with imaginairy arsticles, I'de say that part is fairly balanced.
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:01:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Tiger Would wrote:The brand is the problem due to a stupid mistake.
A bit like:
One day all the milk from holycow was taken out of the supermarkets after finding large amounts of it being poisened due to a lack of coating on the inside of the packaging.
First thing you need to do to be able to remarket it is rename it. Exactly what is wrong with the brand though?? It's up to the reader to determine if the information provide has any slant. The reader knows what he is getting when he goes to the website.
I see what you are saying.
But this is not the real world you see, we all play eve and we all seen what happened to the brand.
Even the brand himself knows this.
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:44:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Posting in a "troll for more publicity" thread. Pretty witty! I like it. Have you checked out the site or do you know of any others that people should check out to increase their metagaming enjoyment? I'll stick with EVE News 24, they don't leave me feeling dirty after reading it. Sorry but Themittani just has too much goon stigma around it, should have named it something else and kept it away from that. It's kind of like Fox News, even if they run a really insightful story, it's still Fox News. You might be right. That thought also crossed my mind. It probably would be a lot more interesting to a lot more people without the clear goon signature. Mittens was right about not using his name would be better. If the site looked and was titled and promoted completely neutral they would have tripled the number of readers every day probably. Whether the contents are neutral or not, I might add. Not saying the following names are better, but as example: EvE independer New Eden Daily (weekly) The Procurer EN24 And if you really wanted to use Mittens name, put it in an acronym..."Hail the Mittani Daily".....HTM Daily (just an example) I also see someone say anyone "mildly" literate and talented can send in pieces and wont get rejected, I highly doubt that. Lets pretend I am mildly literate and talented....and wrote something to be published Would you publish? I think Ide see arguments like "we dont do scrubs"...
What would you write about? |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:49:00 -
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Quote:
What would you write about?
The right question is, in what genre, the answer would be:
Satire
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:54:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Quote:
What would you write about?
The right question is, in what genre, the answer would be: Satire
What's the subject of satire? What's stopping you? Submit it to EN24, or start a blog, and start threads here like Poetic Stanziel. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2780
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:01:00 -
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Quote:
What's the subject of satire? What's stopping you? Submit it to EN24, or start a blog, and start threads here like Poetic Stanziel.
The subject seams clear, anything happening in EvE.
There is nothing stopping me other than, still to busy getting a good platform.
I do not see EN24 being different from tm other than pov.
Blog yes, but different, as said, still busy getting a good platform.
Also, I need to recruit soon so some tasks for the corporation can be taken over to create oppertunity to write.
Starting threads here is futile, its either locked or trolled to death. Which is a damn shame really.
(Or maybe I do not get it where to post such things on the forum)
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:11:00 -
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Sorta worked out nicely didn't it, if there was no goons you'd have nothing to write about. Anyways, do get the word out, something like this http://www.evebloggers.com/ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1481
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:26:00 -
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Tiger Would wrote:Starting threads here is futile, its either locked or trolled to death. Which is a damn shame really.
(Or maybe I do not get it where to post such things on the forum)
Already making your escape?
Well, that's fine, I guess.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2783
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:20:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Tiger Would wrote:Starting threads here is futile, its either locked or trolled to death. Which is a damn shame really.
(Or maybe I do not get it where to post such things on the forum) Already making your escape?
No this is what you call a conversation, leaving the door open for someone to point me in the right direction, pay attention!
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2786
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:44:00 -
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Ghazu wrote: if there was no goons you'd have nothing to write about.
You are so wrong....but truth be told, yes goons provide fuel just as any other entity within EvE.
The only difference I see is that there is a lot more attention seeking by Goons.
I can come up with pieces to write 24/7 all year round without once mentioning goons.....seriously...
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:24:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Tiger Would wrote:
You might be right.
That thought also crossed my mind.
It probably would be a lot more interesting to a lot more people without the clear goon signature.
Mittens was right about not using his name would be better.
If the site looked and was titled and promoted completely neutral they would have tripled the number of readers every day probably.
Whether the contents are neutral or not, I might add.
Not saying the following names are better, but as example:
EvE independer
New Eden Daily (weekly)
The Procurer
EN24
And if you really wanted to use Mittens name, put it in an acronym..."Hail the Mittani Daily".....HTM Daily
(just an example)
I also see someone say anyone "mildly" literate and talented can send in pieces and wont get rejected, I highly doubt that.
Lets pretend I am mildly literate and talented....and wrote something to be published
Would you publish?
I think Ide see arguments like "we dont do scrubs"...
What would you write about?
Ok let's do this again. |
Ghazu
190
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:27:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=154675&find=unread you can do this too. *oh sorry more goon attention seeking for you.
Just post here like that, cus I am not going to remember that you were going to start writing 2 months from now. |
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