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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.04 05:18:00 -
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You're here because you want to venture into 0.0 space (nullsec) to join in on the excitement you hear about, but you don't have any training. You know you'll die.
Most of the other nullsec corps and alliances will offer you training only if you join their 'cause', whether that's PVP or industry. That can be daunting for someone that doesn't want to be part of some 'cause'...
We understand your dilemma.
What's the answer?
OUCH is the answer. It's the Open University of Celestial Hardship. We have very experienced trainers to teach you how to survive and fight in nullsec. We have no 'cause' other than to teach you nullsec xurvival and PVP.
What does that mean for me?
You're going to lose ships (it's why we ensure you're only using cheap, expendable Tech 1 frigates while you're doing your training). You're probably going to get podded quite a few times along the way too. We don't guarantee your survival in nullsec, but we do guarantee to teach you how to minimize your losses along the way.
It's brutal out there, but when you're a member of OUCH, you're with a group of friendly, relaxed people who understand your fears. We're there to help you learn how to survive in nullspace. We will teach you everything you need to know.
What kind of training will I get?
Student training focuses on a number of essential skills in a detailed yet practical maner:
* Overview settings * EVE client settings and interface * Bookmarking * Using the Directional Scanner * Tackling * Weaponry * Fleet Ops * Hunter/Prey
Once you graduate from OUCH you can choose to become a permanent member if you want, or you're free to move on. If you stay, you will have the opportunity to move into more advanced hulls and roles and receive advanced PVP training, including, for example, Interceptors, EWAR, Recons, Covert Ops, and support ships.
Student Training Schedule
Our training sessions are usually held every week on Saturdays and Sundays at 19:00 EVE time in hisec or on SISI. We promote these sessions with our forum, eve mails and in-game calendar.
Are there any minimum requirements to join OUCH?
No pre-requisites are required to join OUCH. No minimum number of skill points, API checks, interviews, etc. We truly are an "open" training corporation. Our students have ranged from day-one-old trial accounts to players who were with Eve since Beta. We accept anyone with a pulse.
However, to make your OUCH experience meaningful, you must be willing to have or accept the following:
- A desire to learn how to survive in nullsec and develop your PvP skills.
- You must do your homework and abide by our corporate policies and restrictions. After joining OUCH you'll find that in addition to attending Module training sessions, there's quite a bit of forum information you'll have to read and digest. You will not, and should not, be fighting from day one. Like when you learn boxing, it's the gym first and arena second.
- Operations Department members (OUCH graduates who've been accepted to the Department) must be involved in at least four fights every month.
- When a student graduates and decides to stay in OUCH they must join one of our Departments:
* Training * Operations (PVP) * Logistics (PVE)
- Be active on Teamspeak (for voice communications) when you're logged on.
- Sign up to our forum and keep up to date with information and discussions.
OUCH is a nullsec survival and PvP training corp. You're expected to be practicing what you've learned, and if you're not practicing, then we hope that's because you've learned it so well you're teaching someone instead. Being on Teamspeak will allow you to chat with other corp and alliance members, and participate in more training and PvP operations.
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.04 05:21:00 -
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What about wars and spies?
Bring it, I say.
War is something that allows our students to practice PVP in highsec, rather than just lowsec or nullsec. Since we're a nullsec survival training corp, and we teach students how to survive and fight in nullsec, there is absolutely no difference to us if we're at war in highsec.
We teach students and member corporations how to operate during war, how to take advantage of alts and alt corps, how to avoid station camps and gate camps from war targets, and how to form fleets to take out opponents.
You only need to see our killboard to understand that we don't fear PVP. We're out there killing anything from T1 frigates through to supercarriers. Many T2 and T3 ships fall prey to our operations.
We also do a lot of our training on SISI, so any wars will not affect training.
If someone wants to join OUCH as a spy in order to gather intel on our operations, we don't mind. Our training and PVP operations have no secrets. And if there ARE any secrets, then we practice a high level of 'operational security'. This is where information is provided to people on a 'need to know' basis.
It's the only way to ensure security in an open corp.
Ok, I'm interested - what do I do now?
If you like what you've read so far, and you think you'd like to join OUCH, then join the in-game channel OUCH-UNI. Once you're in there, you can click on the link to OUCH's info, and then click on APPLY TO JOIN.
You see, we accept anyone and everyone. Who you are and where you've been doesn't matter to us. What matters is that you want to learn how to survive in nullsec and develop your PvP skills, and that's what we teach you.
Of course, you can ask any questions in here as well, and we'd be happy to answer them for you.
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.05 12:01:00 -
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If you're a miner or mission runner and you want to learn how to survive while travelling through nullsec, OUCH is the place to join up and learn survival tactics.
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.05 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Black Claw on 05/07/2011 12:08:59
Hey, this is an example of the kills we're getting out there in nullsec. Someone using a cloaked Buzzard to transport almost 2 billion ISK worth of stuff. We got 'em though....
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QINTAKI
Gallente Bullet Diplomacy Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.05 23:04:00 -
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Great program and even better people! QINTAKI endorses this! [url=http://artofwar.eve-kill.net?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=180819] [/url] |

CampoV
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.06 10:14:00 -
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Great opportunity for players wanting to launch a career in PvP and life in nullsec.
Campo
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:29:00 -
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If you're a corp or alliance that wants new members to learn nullsec survival and PVP, have them join OUCH. After they've graduated and returned to you, you will be amazed at how much they've learnt!
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 08:45:00 -
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We are still recruiting
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Bruta Khan
Foco Theory
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:18:00 -
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If you want to learn PvP and how to survive in 0.0, don't pass this group by.
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yopparai
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:09:00 -
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Great group of guys that know what they are doing.
Yopp
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Yazawa Isao
Umbrella Holding Inc Umbrella Chemical Inc
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:10:00 -
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Recommended
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Syko5150
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:18:00 -
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I may be biased because I now am 1 of the new trainers but OUCH does exactly what it claims. Join us and learn null sec survival and have fun doing it.
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Cyntalia Minor
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:03:00 -
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Don't miss the adrenalin of PvP in 0.0. They'll take you through it step-by-step |

Psi Theta
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:21:00 -
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We turn carebears into null sec survivors. We turn survivors into sharks. Join us. |

Xenon Shi
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:56:00 -
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Sleipner kill by 3 T1 Frigates and a Stealth Bomber
Very nice. |

Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.10 21:17:00 -
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Recruitment is still open
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tempus deathbringer
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Posted - 2011.07.10 21:32:00 -
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are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
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CampoV
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.11 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: tempus deathbringer are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
We span both.
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Xenon Shi
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Posted - 2011.07.11 23:55:00 -
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Just gave a lecture to ten players yesterday, my biggest single class ever. They were attentive, interactive, asked good questions, and thanked me for sharing my time with them.
Makes me glad I signed up to be an instructor. 
Thanks guys!  |

Merlin Aesir
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Posted - 2011.07.12 13:09:00 -
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Been with OUCH six months and loving every minute. Definitely worth the time, From carebare to PvP enthusiast in 2 weeks. |

Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.12 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: tempus deathbringer are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
OUCH takes all players. There is no SP requirement. There is no interview. All you have to have is a willingness to learn. The whole process up to graduation just has you flying a t-1 frigate.
Like already stated we have players from both US and EU.
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Wreckoning Gankologist
Weed Whackers
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Posted - 2011.07.12 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Syko5150
Originally by: tempus deathbringer are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
OUCH takes all players. There is no SP requirement. There is no interview. All you have to have is a willingness to learn. The whole process up to graduation just has you flying a t-1 frigate.
Like already stated we have players from both US and EU.
T-1 Frigates? Everyone knows you need a blob of tech 3ship or at least a blob of Battleships and Battlecruisers to get any kills in null space. Right?
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Twisted Intent
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.12 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Twisted Intent on 12/07/2011 15:13:02
Originally by: Wreckoning Gankologist
Originally by: Syko5150
Originally by: tempus deathbringer are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
OUCH takes all players. There is no SP requirement. There is no interview. All you have to have is a willingness to learn. The whole process up to graduation just has you flying a t-1 frigate.
Like already stated we have players from both US and EU.
T-1 Frigates? Everyone knows you need a blob of tech 3ship or at least a blob of Battleships and Battlecruisers to get any kills in null space. Right?
OUCH's KillBoard is public so you tell me.
OUCH KillBoard
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Wreckoning Gankologist
Weed Whackers
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Posted - 2011.07.12 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Twisted Intent Edited by: Twisted Intent on 12/07/2011 15:13:02
Originally by: Wreckoning Gankologist
Originally by: Syko5150
Originally by: tempus deathbringer are you guys US or EU?
i just returned and am trying to avoid mission running, i want to learn how to pvp in eve. I have 10mil sp but im generally a noob as all i did before was run missions. Need to be hand held as i return.
OUCH takes all players. There is no SP requirement. There is no interview. All you have to have is a willingness to learn. The whole process up to graduation just has you flying a t-1 frigate.
Like already stated we have players from both US and EU.
T-1 Frigates? Everyone knows you need a blob of tech 3ship or at least a blob of Battleships and Battlecruisers to get any kills in null space. Right?
OUCH's KillBoard is public so you tell me.
OUCH KillBoard
Ohh my god you guys kill a ton. I see I was very wrong. What ever you are doing keep it up.
After seeing your kill boards and going back a ways you guys kick butt.
I will recommend this Corp to all that are looking to PVP.
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Galene Hawke
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Posted - 2011.07.12 22:33:00 -
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To anyone reading this out of interest of learning PvP, I joined OUCH last week. Since then I've attended two classes. Everything is very organised, very planned and just awesome. I've learnt so much in a couple of hours, learnt how deep the game is, and I thought it was deep beforehand!
I can't reccomend this training more, it felt like I should have learnt this stuff after the in-game tutorial just to get on my feet and be competant. Awesome bunch of guys who will turn you into a competent PvPer.
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.13 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Syko5150 on 13/07/2011 00:22:44
Originally by: Galene Hawke To anyone reading this out of interest of learning PvP, I joined OUCH last week. Since then I've attended two classes. Everything is very organised, very planned and just awesome. I've learnt so much in a couple of hours, learnt how deep the game is, and I thought it was deep beforehand!
I can't reccomend this training more, it felt like I should have learnt this stuff after the in-game tutorial just to get on my feet and be competant. Awesome bunch of guys who will turn you into a competent PvPer.
Nice thing to hear from 1 of the 9 students I had on July 9th. Glad to hear Galene Hawke likes the training so far.
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Merlin Aesir
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Posted - 2011.07.13 23:58:00 -
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Just thought I would post a link to BCÆs blogspot for examples of what we in OUCH get up to on a daily basis, also many more entertaining blogs from our fearless leader and Co.
So here it is
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.14 16:57:00 -
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Bump
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Melendia
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Posted - 2011.07.14 20:41:00 -
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I am one of OUCH's latest graduates. I highly encourage anyone interested in the PvP side of the game to take some time to go through OUCH's training. Even if you don't plan on living in nullsec the skills learned are helpful in lowsec and hisec.
The student training is what I would call basic training. Once done you aren't going to be a badass but you will be competent and have a solid foundation in which to build up those badass skills.
Or if you are like me you'll have the skills needed to run your itty through a few systems of lowsec in order to cut off 15 jumps in your route.
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QINTAKI
Gallente Bullet Diplomacy Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.14 23:58:00 -
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Looking to learn PVP? Want to know how to survive the perils of lawless null? Then look no further! OUCH is where you need to be. Sign up today and begin your path to null-sec warrior! [url=http://artofwar.eve-kill.net?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=180819] [/url] |

Cyntalia Minor
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:52:00 -
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Take a walk on the wild side.
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.17 00:43:00 -
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We're still recruiting, so make sure to sign up if you're interested in learning PVP or surviving out there in nullsec
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Shuka Ra
Weed Whackers
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:29:00 -
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This is the real deal for anyone interested in PvP and nullsec. No strings attached.
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X3U1AEI9
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.18 15:12:00 -
[34]
Don't miss the fun. 0.0 and PvP. Very noob friendly.
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.19 00:28:00 -
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There is no Skill point requirement. There is no time in game requirment. There is no long que to wait in. There is no interview.
You just need the willingness to learn.
So join OUCH and learn how to PVP.
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.20 04:01:00 -
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Over 500 kills
500 kills in 7 months including the training I received. Doesn't even Include the month I flew a new alt.
You too could be killing like this.
Join OUCH and join in the fun.
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Twisted Intent
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.24 00:43:00 -
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OUCH does exactly what they say. Teach you to PVP and Survive.
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Psi Theta
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.24 00:56:00 -
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Bored of hi-sec? Tired of being a care bear? Join us. We'll teach you to be the hunter instead of the prey.
Making salvagers rich in Curse since 2010. |

Charlie Li
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Posted - 2011.07.24 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Charlie Li on 24/07/2011 17:40:04 I joined a few weeks ago and have really enjoyed my time in OUCH! Ive done most of the trainings, in which I learnt quite a lot, very kind trainers that explain things well, not too fast and not too slow. Small classes keep it personal. After the first few trainings I was able to fly out to nullsec and join bubblecamps, and last night we did this: http://artofwar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10223495 
Join OUCH!
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.26 01:21:00 -
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For a good read of what we do check out our CEO's Blog.
Black Claw's Blog
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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.27 21:38:00 -
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Still recruiting
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Cyntalia Minor
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Posted - 2011.07.29 12:49:00 -
[42]
Excellent introduction to PvP and non-carebear life in nullsec. No experience or SP requirements.
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Charlie Li
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Posted - 2011.07.30 00:14:00 -
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It's good! 
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Psi Theta
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.30 04:05:00 -
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Null-sec survival, small gang PvP. We love to watch ships go boom. We love to teach noobs and care bears how to make fiery explosions in 0.0.
No experience necessary. No SP requirements. If you can fly any racial frig, we'll welcome you to join. Come help us turn shinies into salvage.
Making salvagers rich in Curse since 2010. |

Melinda Kai'hdar
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Posted - 2011.07.31 10:18:00 -
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You can have any profession (none at all) you will find it useful and you will find it joyfull. Just apply, there are no pre-requisites.
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Eva Maris
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Posted - 2011.07.31 10:22:00 -
[46]
Good chaps in OUCH, well worth to join.
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Fergal Straton
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Posted - 2011.07.31 10:30:00 -
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hi im sooo bored of being a solo mission runner and want to now learn about surviving 0.0, this sounds like the corp ive been looking for but how do i apply? Thanks
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Eva Maris
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Posted - 2011.07.31 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Fergal Straton hi im sooo bored of being a solo mission runner and want to now learn about surviving 0.0, this sounds like the corp ive been looking for but how do i apply? Thanks
Just dock in a station, open the corporation info page and at the bottom there is a Join button. Your application will be accepted in 24 hours.
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wollygog
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Posted - 2011.07.31 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: wollygog on 31/07/2011 11:03:26
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Rumbletoad
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 14:53:00 -
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Rumbletoad joined OUCH as a fresh noob. Trainers taught me to survive in 0.0. Consequently, I now feel confident in exploring workholes on my own. OUCH trainers and their curriculum rocks!
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Alf Romeo
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Posted - 2011.08.01 14:55:00 -
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I've just graduated from the training course and feel much more confident in null sec space, the training is first class, it's provided by experienced guys that know what it is they're talking about, everyone is friendly, management is approachable, I've now got choices because the training programme has a graduates referal scheme, involving a wide range of different corps from all over new eden and most importantly, I'm extremely happy, these guys rock... so join... now!
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Elgoroth
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Posted - 2011.08.02 23:16:00 -
[52]
Joined looking to get into PvP and null sec. Best choice I made!
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Emmaree
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Posted - 2011.08.05 00:03:00 -
[53]
bump
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BaadAciD
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Posted - 2011.08.06 02:28:00 -
[54]
best training corps iv found not the first one iv tried come check us out
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Nashh Kadavr
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Posted - 2011.08.06 14:06:00 -
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OUCH Graduates will imediatly be accepted into Black Guards; http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1561711&page=1
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.10 00:10:00 -
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We are still recruiting. Please apply to join if you want to learn nullsec survival and PVP. You'll have lots of fun in the process!
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pufy
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Posted - 2011.08.11 22:43:00 -
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I went from carebear to killer in no time, i love this corp, great crowd and good times 
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Eva Maris
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:17:00 -
[58]
We are still waiting for you :). Come and join
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Miss Teri
Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.18 20:44:00 -
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bump
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X3U1AEI9
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.21 15:17:00 -
[60]
Nullsec PvP isn't for everyone, but OUCH is the best way to find out if it's for you.
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Eva Maris
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Posted - 2011.08.21 21:37:00 -
[61]
OUCH is still recruiting...
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Elgoroth
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Posted - 2011.08.23 14:50:00 -
[62]
bump
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dxrom
Minmatar Beyond Control. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.08.23 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: dxrom on 23/08/2011 18:45:05 Bump! ohai OUCH, how are you?
Also, pro safepoint/cloakers. :>
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.25 07:36:00 -
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I've been on holiday for a couple weeks, but it's sooo good to be back now.
Anyway, OUCH is still recruiting, so if you're keen on learning how to survive in nullsec as well as how to fight, then give us a try. I'm sure you won't regret it.
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X3U1AEI9
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.26 15:30:00 -
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You won't find a better natured training corp. Easy in, easy out, and other nullsec PvP corps also recruit our graduates. We think nullsec PvP is where the fun is and can help you quickstart your entry into that arena.
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Bren Genzan
Open University of Celestial Hardship
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Posted - 2011.08.27 11:46:00 -
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It's like Boot Camp/Basic Training: In a couple of weeks, we'll teach you the skills you'll need to travel in null, kill more and die less. |

MUFU
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Posted - 2011.08.27 12:57:00 -
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afternoon bump for some good guys  |

Eva Maris
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Posted - 2011.08.27 20:56:00 -
[68]
OUCH is still recruiting. Come and join us.
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Cyntalia Minor
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:16:00 -
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Put off by the EVE learning curve? We can help. If you're willing to make the effort, you'll reap the rewards.
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Tkan'dre Tamei
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Posted - 2011.08.31 14:40:00 -
[70]
Great bunch of people and great training!
Bump.
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Bren Genzan
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:40:00 -
[71]
All the cool kids are living in Null Sec, and you can too.
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Merlin Aesir
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.05 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Merlin Aesir on 05/09/2011 02:01:00 Edited by: Merlin Aesir on 05/09/2011 02:00:31 Edited by: Merlin Aesir on 05/09/2011 02:00:14 OUCH is still recruiting.
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Bren Genzan
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.05 09:37:00 -
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Proud pilots of Griffins, Blackbirds and Falcons, we train pilots in the tactical application of EWAR and ECM.
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Miss Teri
Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.06 19:34:00 -
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This just in: OUCH does not do real PvP.
It seems killing **** while not letting the others kill you is not real PvP.
http://blackclawtravels.blogspot.com/2011/09/tales-from-front-line-5.html
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Black Claw
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: Black Claw on 08/09/2011 02:51:10 Just for your interest, OUCH has a recruitment thread on the new forums in Eve Gate as well:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7370&find=unread
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