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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.28 22:26:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:I missed the part where it said "Don't report bots." Can you bold it for me? You need to try harder then that, or are you really that dense?
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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.28 23:13:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:It's the implication of expulsion for reporting (which I repeat is CLEARLY IMPLIED) that is sooooo wrong! Haven't you already realize that we live in a world where we have to spell everything out clearly?
Labels on a bottle of sleeping pills that says "Warning, may cause drowsiness" Labels on bottles of beer that says "Consumption of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car or operate machinery" Labels on Lego toys that says "Choking hazard, do no swallow" Labels on packets of peanuts that says "This product may contain trace amounts of peanuts and other tree nuts" Labels on windshield covers that says "Never drive with the cover on your windshield" Labels on Batman Halloween costumes that says "PARENT: Please exercise caution - mask and chest plate are not protective; cape does not enable wearer to fly" Labels on hairdryers that says "Do no use in shower" |

Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.28 23:48:00 -
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Naglfar Nidhoggur wrote:If Goon A report's Goon B's botting activity and KEEPS HIS MOUTH SHUT then how does anyone know that he reported Goon B? Sreegs
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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.29 00:06:00 -
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Cypermethren wrote:Quantessa wrote:I don't support botting.
I don't have any issue though with an Alliance declaring rules of not grassing up people for doing it. Other players can do it, Gms can try to detect it and so on.
In real life if I park on a yellow line it's a fair cop if I get caught but I'd find it completely unacceptable if a mate called the Feds to grass me up.
Outlawing the practice of informing on people is not the same as legalising a practice.
And if you don't like Goon CSMs vote for someone else and encourage others to do likewise. But parking on a yellow line isnt hurting anyone. Botting hurts other eve players and the ENTIRE economy in eve. would your'e "mates" ethics get you to turn a blind eye to the fact a friend of yours held up the local grocer and robbed them? would you're "mates" ethics prevent you from calling an ambulance for someone purely because the person is need is someone you and your mate absoltuely hate/loathe? Rules are put in place for a reason, not to be pick/chosen on regards to the occasion, and certainly not to be ridiculed or scrutanized by complete randoms that think they know better purely because the rule doesnt tickle their fancy. I think CCP should take rules against botting further: If you know about someone botting, and there is evidence to prove which you knew but never acted - you're also up for the same ban as the person whom was actualy using the bot. in real life, if you know someone who held up a bank or a grocery store and you do not let the authorities know, you're guilty by association. Eve is real, right? so lets get with the real punishment that needs to be dished out to the real arrogant wankers that think they're above/beyond eve's T&C/EULA. Tho, that would require CCP to grow a pair, which i realy dont think will happen any time soon.
So many extremely keen hi-sec miners have been burned for this, but that's just fine, cause they were poor and unrepresented. EVE is Real!
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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.29 07:24:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Since CCP made them assume responsibility for members breaking the EULA: Quote:In the past CCP has contacted alliance directors and ordered them to bring their alliance into line when individual members of that alliance have gone against the EULA examples I can remember from the goons include: Posting of common world war 2 german phrases in local. (referring to Germans as being members of a certain political persuasion) General Spam in local. (lag causing) Creation of phallic shaped can arrangements in space. (obviously inappropriate) Naming of Stations with names that are not approved by CCP. (comical and direct enough to make it to fanfest) In all these cases a CCP GM contacted either a director or alliance CEO and insisted that individual police the alliance and limit the rule breaking. CCP set the precedent. Now like all good organisations they have found a way to use it.
Are you stupid?
CCP was just trying to be nice and smacked their wrist. Of coarse CCP could have just as easily given them several days ban, but them your kind would start crying on the forums about them being too heavy handed.
For all of the above examples you have quoted, in no way was there any indication that CCP made them assume anything. CCP simply said, play nice. |

Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.29 07:29:00 -
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:18:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:Consider this an official GSF response to this garbage thread.
We do not condone botting. We think it is destructive to the game. We tell people not to bot and strongly discourage it because it's stupid and easily caught, not to mention it cheapens the effort of players who play the game the way it was meant to be. We are also not CCP's policemen. It is not our job to police botting or EULA breaking activities in the game, this is CCP's job. CCP Sreegs is doing a wonderful job policing this and we support his actions. Asking a playerbase to police EULA infractions is dumb and it is not our place. There is a report bot mechanism, we encourage people to use it. And this is exactly why null-sec is botting heaven compared to hi-sec.
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Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:00:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Seerg was pretty clear: Give them proof of organised eula flouting and they will take action. This is exactly why this thread is a waste of time and nothing will be done. He is asking for something that can never be proven. Even if any alliance were to openly admit to anything in forum post, its still just a forum post, unless of course you want to start using forum post as indisputable evidence for anything..... which is kind a.....
WELCOME TO THE INTERWEBZ |

Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.30 01:11:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:You're like the Eve equivalent of an arsenist - you just want to watch other people's creations burn while you observe and **** yourself in the corner.
This is Eve. You're complaining about things in nullsec being a numbers game? Of course they are. Biggest most powerful team wins. Don't like it? Make friends until you have a bigger team. Or quit and play a game with instancing and limited party raids.
The goons are New Eden's id. They embody they impulsive, limitless fun that there is to be had in the game, whether it comes at others' expense or not. They pride themselves on pushing sandbox and metagaming to its limit. But that's pretty much what separates Eve from other games, the fact that they can do it and get away with it . This should not be news to you, or offend you.
I'm not really into the goons either - that's not my type of fun. But I will certainly defend their right to have it that way. Kids, here is a proper example of how to give a interwebz bl0wj0b. |

Stella SGP
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Posted - 2011.09.30 01:24:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Brooson wrote:Stella SGP wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:You're like the Eve equivalent of an arsenist - you just want to watch other people's creations burn while you observe and **** yourself in the corner.
This is Eve. You're complaining about things in nullsec being a numbers game? Of course they are. Biggest most powerful team wins. Don't like it? Make friends until you have a bigger team. Or quit and play a game with instancing and limited party raids.
The goons are New Eden's id. They embody they impulsive, limitless fun that there is to be had in the game, whether it comes at others' expense or not. They pride themselves on pushing sandbox and metagaming to its limit. But that's pretty much what separates Eve from other games, the fact that they can do it and get away with it . This should not be news to you, or offend you.
I'm not really into the goons either - that's not my type of fun. But I will certainly defend their right to have it that way. Kids, here is a proper example of how to give a interwebz bl0wj0b. I have no idea what a bj feels like.... Well, unfortunately they only allow one of us in CQ at a time. Maybe after winter patch I can help you out... Can we have dinner and maybe go for a movie first tho? Just to build up the mood, cause I'm shy.
Oh oh do I have to be a Goon? If so who do I send my security deposit to? |
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