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Dustin Roac
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dustin Roac on 08/07/2011 11:44:47 Edited by: Dustin Roac on 08/07/2011 11:34:45 I have not really touched any caldari shield or missile skills at all, minus shield operation for what was an idea very early on in my career. I'm at 3mil SP, doing missions in my Arb a little too well planning up for BC.
Then I'm told (and then see) I won a contest I had entered, and have gotten myself a Tengu. I decide not to put this gift to waste and start switching my plans over. However while I'm planning up I'd like to get used to the caldari systems, so I'd like to incorporate a well fit and skilled drake for level 3's before I step into the expensive beast that is that Tengu. Based on what I've read on some searches I've put together this list.
From Amarr cruiser to Caldari battlecruiser:
Scout Drone Operation V Gallente Drone Specialization I Gallente Drone Specialization II Gallente Drone Specialization III
(The group above is mainly finishing up my Arb skills, and what I have queued right now, so that I can use HobGobsII's now and in the future)
Shield Operation IV EM Shield Compensation I EM Shield Compensation II EM Shield Compensation III EM Shield Compensation IV Explosive Shield Compensation I Explosive Shield Compensation II Explosive Shield Compensation III Explosive Shield Compensation IV Thermic Shield Compensation I Thermic Shield Compensation II Thermic Shield Compensation III Thermic Shield Compensation IV Kinetic Shield Compensation I Kinetic Shield Compensation II Kinetic Shield Compensation III Kinetic Shield Compensation IV Tactical Shield Manipulation I Tactical Shield Manipulation II Tactical Shield Manipulation III Shield Management IV Shield Compensation I Shield Compensation II Shield Compensation III Shield Compensation IV Shield Upgrades I Shield Upgrades II Shield Upgrades III Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Shield Rigging I Weapon Upgrades IV Missile Launcher Operation I Missile Launcher Operation II Missile Launcher Operation III Missile Launcher Operation IV Caldari Frigate IV Caldari Cruiser I Caldari Cruiser II Caldari Cruiser III Caldari Cruiser IV Launcher Rigging I Standard Missiles I Standard Missiles II Standard Missiles III Heavy Missiles I
(I figure from here I can step into a new drake and tank it up fairly well (probably over tank) and from here on out it's just increasing my damage and other fitting skills)
Heavy Missiles II Heavy Missiles III Heavy Missiles IV Heavy Missiles V Rapid Launch I Rapid Launch II Rapid Launch III Rapid Launch IV Warhead Upgrades I Warhead Upgrades II Warhead Upgrades III Warhead Upgrades IV Target Navigation Prediction I Target Navigation Prediction II Target Navigation Prediction III Target Navigation Prediction IV Missile Bombardment I Missile Bombardment II Missile Bombardment III Missile Bombardment IV Missile Projection I Missile Projection II Missile Projection III Missile Projection IV Missile Launcher Operation V Guided Missile Precision I Guided Missile Precision II Guided Missile Precision III Guided Missile Precision IV
(From here on down I'm pretty much beginning my training for Tengu. Still deciding on the direction to go for that, but know most of the skills already listed will very likely go up to 4 or 5. Figure I have plenty of time in my drake to figure that out)
Shield Operation V Electronics V Navigation IV Navigation V Engineering V Heavy Missile Specialization I Caldari Defensive Systems I Caldari Electronic Systems I Caldari Propulsion Systems I Caldari Offensive Systems I Caldari Engineering Systems I Caldari Cruiser V Caldari Strategic Cruiser I
Any thoughts?
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Ashgoz Kouvo
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:24:00 -
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You forgot the skill Missile Projection. And do you really want to fly a drake without heavy missiles? |
Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Drykor on 08/07/2011 11:33:07 You may want to ask yourself if you want to switch race just because you have a ship for it that you could also sell. That said, caldari is still the best race for pve. The plan looks fine (with the updates from the guy above me) but why try to almost max out your shield skills before even getting some basic missile skills? A drake will run level 3 missions with skills just at 2 or 3 so you could put it to work much sooner.
Also I would postpone getting the compensation skills to IV so early, you'll probably be using active hardeners mostly anyway. |
Dustin Roac
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ashgoz Kouvo You forgot the skill Missile Projection. And do you really want to fly a drake without heavy missiles?
Ah you are quite right about Projection, must have passed by it, adding it in
Reason heavy missiles are further on down the list towards the tengu training, most threads I stumbled upon recommend assault launchers with standard missiles. Although this data could be out dated... idk. |
Ashgoz Kouvo
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:37:00 -
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Assault missile launchers + standard missiles are for cruisers that want to hit smaller targets (for almost everyone who starts new and is doing lvl 1 and 2 missions in his caracal for example) |
Dustin Roac
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor Edited by: Drykor on 08/07/2011 11:33:07 You may want to ask yourself if you want to switch race just because you have a ship for it that you could also sell. That said, caldari is still the best race for pve. The plan looks fine (with the updates from the guy above me) but why try to almost max out your shield skills before even getting some basic missile skills? A drake will run level 3 missions with skills just at 2 or 3 so you could put it to work much sooner.
Also I would postpone getting the compensation skills to IV so early, you'll probably be using active hardeners mostly anyway.
Good idea. In truth I probably wouldn't follow straight down the list, and saving the IV's and V's for training time gaps that I may have, and when I get closer to the tengu. Main concern regarding shield skills was losing the drake.. My long term "fit" when that list is close to finish has all the equipment at a total of about 100mil, and seeing as ATM I'm sitting on only about 40mil I wanted to be quite careful. (and figuring by the time I'm able to fit that equipment my wallet would be larger and able to afford such a loss)
But in thought, that's with a lot of tech2 equipment that is quite aways away. If the drake is manageable in lvl 3's with 'standard' equipment, the budget ceiling might be able to come down for now. |
Dustin Roac
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ashgoz Kouvo Assault missile launchers + standard missiles are for cruisers that want to hit smaller targets (for almost everyone who starts new and is doing lvl 1 and 2 missions in his caracal for example)
Alright then. I suppose the Hob II's would take care of the smaller fry anyway adequately. Editing plan.
Again much thanks to all who are helping out. |
Dustin Roac
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Dustin Roac on 08/07/2011 12:04:45 Find in the OP the modified plan. If it works as well as advertised, it has me stepping into a drake in about 7 days, rather than the 26 I had originally planned.
Again I put a heavy emphasis on shield training first, but this is mostly because of my lack of knowledge of the caldari systems and a "better safe than sorry" approach. Up till this plan now my drones have done all major fighting I've been in so figure I will need some adaptation time to actual user combat. (That, and the 7 days I have for that training to complete before I step into the drake will allow me to plan a new adequate fit and bankroll for it + replacement if it gets blown) |
Mona X
Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Mona X on 08/07/2011 12:23:29 Skill you'll need for drake.
Shield Operation V Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Shield Upgrades IV Shield Rigging I Missile Launcher Operation V Caldari Frigate IV Caldari Cruiser III Launcher Rigging I Heavy Missiles IV Rapid Launch IV Warhead Upgrades IV Target Navigation Prediction IV Missile Bombardment IV Missile Projection IV Guided Missile Precision IV Electronics V Engineering V
You can use XR-3200s (minimum), arbalests (pro) or Caldari navy launchers (elite ganktarg... I mean carebear)
Quote: (From here down is higher level training for the drake, including tengu pre-training)
Navigation V Caldari Cruiser IV Shield Operation V Shield Management V Heavy Missiles V Heavy Missile Specialization IV Rapid Launch V Warhead Upgrades V Target Navigation Prediction V Missile Bombardment V Missile Projection V Guided Missile Precision V
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Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:53:00 -
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Looks fine now, though I would put in the missile support skills at 1 or 2 before starting level 3 running, getting skills to 2 is almost irrelevant in amount of time and it will help a ton. |
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