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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.19 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: MeBiatch on 19/07/2011 18:17:21
imo the reason why ccp has kept "schtum" so far is that there are likely legal issues that have to be worked out before they can respond...
CCP would be crazy not to want to add this feature they just have to figure out how to do it without getting sued...
As it stands EVE is a game you pay to play... which means anything that is included as a feature of the game CCP makes money off of it...
Lets say they allow a certain music video to be played... i would argue that CCP owes royalties to the music industry because they are using copy righted material to make money...
A solution for this could be ingame advertising in the TV to offset the payments...
Moreover there could be some sort of ARUM monthly payment to pay for TV channels that then pay the royalties...
I think we have opened a real big bag of worms with this one... and even as cool as i think it is... it might take a while for CCP to consult thier contract lawers to see if this is a viable feature or not...
Hopefully they make a deal with youtube and let google handle the charges 
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.19 19:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Dr DustRemover
Originally by: MeBiatch
Edited by: MeBiatch on 19/07/2011 18:17:21
As it stands EVE is a game you pay to play... which means anything that is included as a feature of the game CCP makes money off of it...
This would only apply if CCP was providing YOU with content you didn't own. This hack allows players to directly watch materials on their on computer.
In essence, the CQ TV hack just allows the EvE client to function as a media player no different than iTunes.
1. there is no way to prove that they material being put ON CQ TV is legally purchased by said person... I know i have lots of music and videos i DL via Bittorrent that i never payed for..
2. you dont have to pay to use Itune or Windows media player...
but you do have to pay to use EVE... hence making money off of it as a feature...
as i said before this not black and white... its a shade a gray that lawers just love to nit pic over...
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.19 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Not-Apsalar
There are media players and media playing devices that you do pay for. The device manufacturers and player developers are not responsible for the content the user places on it. Rare exceptions have been made if there was an expectation that the media would be in violation of copyright, but there is no such expectation here.
The only issue they may run into is licensing of the media codecs and if their license agreements allow this type of use. Of course, this is a good reason why it's nice to encourage developers to use open formats like Vorbis and Theora.
So you are saying that aslong as the media is player owned there is Zero copy right infrigment? kick ass if true... Though i wonder because of the MMO thing (file sharing) there could be Gray zones... Is there a president of having an MMO community like eve with a shareable TV...
Though i would love there to be netflix put on my CQTV so i can invite peeps over to watch virtual TV
I am sure there is a whole bunch of legall mumbo jumbo that needs to worked out before CCP lets us do this without breaking EULA...
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Originally by: MeBiatch
1. there is no way to prove that they material being put ON CQ TV is legally purchased by said person... I know i have lots of music and videos i DL via Bittorrent that i never payed for..
Hello, I'm with the FBI. We'll be tracing your I.P. and knocking down your door in a few moments.
bring it on mr FBI you have to deal with the MOUNTIES if you want to get to me...
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: MeBiatch on 20/07/2011 22:15:37
imo the answer to ptp file tsf taking up too much bandwidth could be solved via cloud computing...
this could also help CCP with legal issues and content control...
Basically we all get a set 1 gb cloud drive (that is linked up to our API) that the videos are uploaded from...
you have a converter(remote control) on the CQ couch that lets you choose what you want to watch...
this would allow CCP to VET all info loaded and make sure there arnt any copyright violations...
Though i still think youtube integration with adds would be a better way to go about legal issues...
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.21 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: MeBiatch on 21/07/2011 23:24:36
Originally by: Fennore
I don't care if I'm the only one to see the video. Having it available wile i trade would be awesome. Also would be nice not to have to alt/tab constantly to interact with eve GUI.
moreover do they not have the internet in the 28 000th century?
just a TV...
Personally the TV should be your monitor for the ingame browser... well when in station it should be...
if they made the IGB full flash then you could watch youtube and nexflix or ****o all you want and there would be Zero copy right infringement because those companies already bought the rights to show the content (or in youtubes case remove any infringements) let 3rd parties deal with all the legall mumbo jumbo and get me my youtube... hell even apple TV would work...
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