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Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:52:00 -
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Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. If it bleed we can kill it. |

Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
865
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:56:00 -
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This is not those games mate
Also
1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:00:00 -
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How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2241
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:00:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:This is not those games mate
Also
1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need
I have a main, a carebear, and some guy  "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
1
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:02:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. would 3 chars make your post 3 times easier to understand wtf you're griping about, or more importantly - why? |

Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
91
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:03:00 -
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So even Dolan is trolling the General Discussion forums now?
CCP pls. |

To mare
Advanced Technology
28
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:03:00 -
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1 main 2 forum alt  3 hauler |

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2742
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:05:00 -
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You can train more than one character, but you'll have to pay extra $$ or PLEX each month to pay for it.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range. |

Nex apparatu5
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
342
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:09:00 -
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Main and two cyno alts. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2904
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:10:00 -
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I agree with the OP, the worst thing about this game I've found so far in my opinion is the fact that I can only train one character at a time. With this time based training system it would take me ages to properly train three specialized characters if I trained one a few hours, stopped, trained another one a few hours, stopped, trained a third a few hours, etc.
Please change this CCP, not all of us can afford to pay you for multiple accounts just to properly specialize and enjoy multiple types of gameplay. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
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Belshazzar Babylon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:14:00 -
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Ohh this thread again
Plenty of uses for your other 3 characters. As far as catching up to a seven year player? Its easy. Say it's cruiser vs cruiser only your skills for cruiser, medium guns, and support skills matter in that fight. The rest of his millions of skills matter. |

Hippodamos
hedgie life EvE Consortium
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:19:00 -
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I just dont get when you want, in games like WoW you can only play 1 of the 50 chars you have at a time anyway, dosent that mean you only "train" on 1 at a time too ? |

Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
325
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:29:00 -
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i wish we could just pay to add 3 more character slots and one more logged in character to an account rather than having to manage multiple accounts |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2905
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:34:00 -
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It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
61
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:35:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time.
I too would like the character bazaar to begin selling super toons for 10mil. |

Pipa Porto
956
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:51:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
No you don't. I don't think any of those allow you to play multiple characters on one account at once.
You're free to stop training on your EVE character whenever you log out of that character if you prefer the same training restrictions as WOW and the like. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Pipa Porto
956
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:54:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time.
How about $45 a month ($36 a month if purchased annually) plus a $20 upgrade fee each time you turn on a new character's training (to replace the cost of transferring the finished character to your main account after it's done training on the temp account). EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:30:00 -
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When all the other games you mentioned allow you to train up a character without EVEN LOGGING IN, maybe your argument would hold even the tiniest bit of weight.
EVE training is completely passive. Why should you get the ability to level up two extra characters for free with absolutely zero work put in on your side?
Besides, if you were anywhere halfway decent at this game you'd be making more than enough money to easily plex a second account, rendering your silly argument even more obsolete. |

Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:31:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Main and two cyno alts.
This is what I use mine for actually |

Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
39
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:38:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:i wish we could just pay to add 3 more character slots and one more logged in character to an account rather than having to manage multiple accounts
I want this too. CCP has said they are working on account management like that but who knows when they will have that done. |
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Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
46
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:45:00 -
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OP.... EVE has been like this for 10 years! Do you think they will change it now?
Part of the great thing about EVE is that you can do everything with just one character. You will never stop learning and doing something new.
There is no "End Game" in EVE because of this! EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2424
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:02:00 -
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You are waaaay too hung up on the amount of skill points your main has.
If you want to explore something different with one of your other slots, for gods sake do it.
The only problem with this game is that it is chock full of obsessive/compulsive people. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Peter Raptor
X-Exclusion-X Massa Interitum
291
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:15:00 -
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I got one account, bout 12 mil sp on one char , 25 mil on the main char,
love having to only grind one plex per month, all good, patience is a virtue  Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

stoicfaux
1643
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:15:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue.
The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
46
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:35:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
"Level Cap??" Do you even play this game?
<----- All of the theme park MMOs are that way, and they all pretty much suck for the same reason. They have a level cap, and boil down to gear centric raid grinding. They all also have "end game" after 6 - 8 months, even causual players have completed them and they end their subscrptions and move on to the next theme park MMO.
EVE has been here for 10 years, because it has no level caps and no "end game". EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
544
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:38:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need Monkeys!  Post with your monkey. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:48:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
Wait... how the hell you able to log-in and train even just two characters in GW2??? You some kinda hakorz?? Cuz GW2 will only lert me train OOOONE character at a time! I feel SOOOOOOOOOOOO cheated! I'm demanding my moneyz back, naow! Arenanet, damn you! just... damn... you... to... helllll!
<---btw alt training pvp destroyer/combat frigs :P lazy...
ps lol@lvlcap just lol! |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1533
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:56:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. Why's Eve any different than those MMOs? when you grind levels for WoW, Lineage, etc. You can only grind them one character at the time right? one to level 30, stop, switch character, second one to level 15, stop, back to one. Same as Eve, train one character, pause, switch character, train second character, pause, back to one.
Eve even have the advantage of not requiring you to log in, at all, to train the skills. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
568
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:17:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language.
What kind of logic is this?
So while you are on your main, are the rest of the 7 characters earning level, offline?
CCP's way is probably the most viable way that suits the Company AND the players. |

Zeran Kariashi
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:32:00 -
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I'm with the masses here. Eve is fine as is. If you wanna train another character, get your main to a good skill set up, and then just swap your queue to the other guy and train him while you play your main. Though having multiple accounts helps more in the long run as you can run miner/transport or Attack/salvage as a team and easily rake in enough ISK to cover both accounts without having to deal with the headache of re-logging or heading back to swap ships.
Those other games take in and bleed out players at phenomenal rates as there is a finite amount of progression. They hit the cap and boom, quit until the next expansion/content patch. Eve is a constant progression, with player set goals. It's a completely different style of game to the others.
Eve's only real failing imo, is that there's no real incentive to log in a play once you've reached your quotas for the month, unless you're just using it for it's social interaction. It doesn't matter if you play 1 minute or 20 hours per day for a month, your character still progresses at the same rate. About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. |
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Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1832
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:40:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
This! *chortle* So much this! *snicker*
Perhaps if the Buddy Invite system allowed faster SP acquisition when you are in fleet with your buddy, we might be able to address the problems that new players have of trying to catch up to the veterans? That, and the ability to cyno to your buddy every half hour for free. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
89
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:25:00 -
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You can only grind one character at any time unless you multibox in any game. /thread. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
582
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:36:00 -
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Belshazzar Babylon wrote:Ohh this thread again  Plenty of uses for your other 2 characters. As far as catching up to a seven year player? Its easy. Say it's cruiser vs cruiser only your skills for cruiser, medium guns, and support skills matter in that fight. The rest of his millions of skills don't have an affect.
More folk need to understand this simple fact. You want fries with that? |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
3
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:40:00 -
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Zeran Kariashi wrote:preamble stuff..... About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. Now this actually has merit. In fact I'd go so far as to say making it a better bonus than 5%.
Even CCP wins 'cos their Online Player Count will stay higher all day and night.
Plus it's a good way to get the cloaky AFK subject happening again.... lulz.....
Tippia. Oh Tippia, where art thou?
[TL ambles off chortling]
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
982
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:41:00 -
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Catch up with the veterans?
Dr Caymus
Funny how ~12m SP pilots are the most in demand for PvP in the Character Bazaar.
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Pipa Porto
958
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:46:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:You are waaaay too hung up on the amount of skill points your main has.
If you want to explore something different with one of your other slots, for gods sake do it.
The only problem with this game is that it is chock full of obsessive/compulsive people.
But my prethious Ithk/EthP/LP per hour  EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
4
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:51:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:You are waaaay too hung up on the amount of skill points your main has.
If you want to explore something different with one of your other slots, for gods sake do it.
The only problem with this game is that it is chock full of obsessive/compulsive people. But my prethious Ithk/EthP/LP per hour  Yikes. You look just like a boss I once had  |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4624
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:55:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue.
Maybe so, but how long does it take to get the top teir gear, which is what really counts?
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
583
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:58:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Zeran Kariashi wrote:preamble stuff..... About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. Now this actually has merit. In fact I'd go so far as to say making it a better bonus than 5%. Even CCP wins 'cos their Online Player Count will stay higher all day and night. Plus it's a good way to get the cloaky AFK subject happening again.... lulz..... Tippia. Oh Tippia, where art thou? [TL ambles off chortling]
Would this not just lead to folk staying logged in as much as possible without the need to actually play? You want fries with that? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4624
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:59:00 -
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Of course it would.
Within a few days people would be complaining about being "forced" to stay logged in to "compete". Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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Medarr
ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty
40
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:11:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Zeran Kariashi wrote:preamble stuff..... About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. Now this actually has merit. In fact I'd go so far as to say making it a better bonus than 5%. Even CCP wins 'cos their Online Player Count will stay higher all day and night. Plus it's a good way to get the cloaky AFK subject happening again.... lulz..... Tippia. Oh Tippia, where art thou? [TL ambles off chortling]
lol poor afkcloak/local whiners they'd have a heart attack...
Also... Inb4 Tippia :p |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
79
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:12:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Zeran Kariashi wrote:preamble stuff..... About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. Now this actually has merit. In fact I'd go so far as to say making it a better bonus than 5%. Even CCP wins 'cos their Online Player Count will stay higher all day and night. Plus it's a good way to get the cloaky AFK subject happening again.... lulz..... Tippia. Oh Tippia, where art thou? [TL ambles off chortling] Would this not just lead to folk staying logged in as much as possible without the need to actually play?
Yeah that'd be hilarious. I'd just login and sit in station while I go to work or whatever. Not a good idea. |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
4
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:15:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Zeran Kariashi wrote:preamble stuff..... About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. Now this actually has merit. In fact I'd go so far as to say making it a better bonus than 5%. Even CCP wins 'cos their Online Player Count will stay higher all day and night. Plus it's a good way to get the cloaky AFK subject happening again.... lulz..... Tippia. Oh Tippia, where art thou? [TL ambles off chortling] Would this not just lead to folk staying logged in as much as possible without the need to actually play? Oh you mean like an afk cloaky? ROFLMAO......
Told ya... |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
583
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:17:00 -
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I have given this matter considerable thought, and it seems to me that the only fair solution is for CCP to award those who pay for two accounts by annual subscription a 5% faster training time.
Not that I would benefit from this in any way of course.
Eve has a great training system, it should be left alone. You want fries with that? |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
4
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:23:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have given this matter considerable thought, and it seems to me that the only fair solution is for CCP to award those who pay for two accounts by annual subscription a 5% faster training time.
Not that I would benefit from this in any way of course.
Eve has a great training system, it should be left alone. So you say
It should change But you don't care No, it's fine the way it is.
You make stock market decisions the same way? |

Jett0
Surface Warfare Tribal Band
272
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:33:00 -
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^^ There. I've fixed your sarcasmometer. Occasionally plays sober |

Hina Yamamoto
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:40:00 -
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Obvious Troll is obvious.
He even claims that you can play more than one character on one single account at the same time in other games. Lol wut? U stupid?
You can not play more than one character on a single account. Nowhere. Not in WoW, not in RIFT and not in any other games! When you play and level a Paladin, you can't play and level a Mage at the same time. You have to log off, so stopping the grinding and log on with an other character to grind with him instead.
In most games it only takes like a month to reach max level. And an other month to complete the endgame. Then you start a new character because you get bored with the other. In EVE there is no "Endgame". No End. You can play one character forever without getting bored. It will take you like 10 years to learn all skills at 5. You can do everything with just one Character. So why do you need more? There is no goddamn reason except cyno-, market- or lowskill-pvpalts. Most people have alts not because they want to do something different, but because they want to do something more efficient. Others have alts because they don't want to invest time in their main for something they'll probably never use, but from what I see that's just the minority.
And to make it clear: YOU CAN'T PLAY/GRIND/LEVEL MORE THAN ONE CHARACTER ON A SINGLE ACCOUNT AT THE SAME TIME! NOT IN WOW, NOT IN LINEAGE OR GUILDWARS AND NOT IN EVE! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4850
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
Another interesting fact though, that doesn't happen in a lot of other games, is that we progress - even if we're not online. Imagine if you had to be online to skill up, now that is far worse than only being able to train one character per account.
/c
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1535
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:49:00 -
[49] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue. The fact that he mentioned Lineage and "grind mmos" says otherwise, those are games that took a while to grind to 'max level'. Same with Eve (actually Eve is better in this aspect), we can do DPS, we can do 'healer', we can do scout, we can do trades, exploration, "tanking", heck, we can do whatever without even have to reset talent points, skills, switch characters or anything at all, just the ships, unlike other MMOs.
stoicfaux wrote:The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
This is not a "problem" with Eve, this is one thing that helps retain players during a longer time period and keep them playing (or at least logging in) and subscribing without disappearing for a certain extended period of time. I "started" playing Eve on the first few days, people don't go jump to incursions or go brawl with T3s on their first few days, I took steps, gradually, I enjoyed it. When I first played the game, first time I get in my drake I was filled with satisfaction, it would seem trivial to older players, but new players have their own thing.
There are and should be no 'end-game' content in a sandbox game. This is the very exact reason why I kept playing this game, and I'm sure many others felt the same way. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
22
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:01:00 -
[50] - Quote
Hina Yamamoto wrote:Obvious Troll is obvious.
Hi Hina, i see a lot post agains my topic, but also some who agree witth me.
In my opinion skill training curve betwen EvE and other Mmos is worse in word, ok i know i cant play at once while using multiple characters in other mmo, but character learning curve show simpe facts, entire players community in other games are better with this aspect of fun and learning progres. If it bleed we can kill it. |
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto We Sizwe
536
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
I gather this is then one of your drunk post.
You are comparing EVE to other MMO's which is where you make your first Mistake. In EVE you are responsible for your own FUN no matter what your SP.
I see nothing wrong with the current way SP is gained, all I will say is. Thank You GOD it is not like other MMO's since I despise grinding for SP. With one Character you can do multiple things, I don't need to grind different chars to do different things. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |

Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
22
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:20:00 -
[52] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:I gather this is then one of your drunk post.
You are comparing EVE to other MMO's which is where you make your first Mistake. In EVE you are responsible for your own FUN no matter what your SP.
I see nothing wrong with the current way SP is gained, all I will say is. Thank You GOD it is not like other MMO's since I despise grinding for SP. With one Character you can do multiple things, I don't need to grind different chars to do different things.
Well i know, this restriction is good for CCP, more alts account more transaction in character basar, better for us all, CCP im realy not againt and im not against your company,i love EvE, i realise this should be like it is, because is good for EvE economy and for your compaqny ...
However i dislike fact, EvE got bad restriction while people cant train multiple characters at once.
Cheers folks, EvE for bad and good times forever no mater how it is  If it bleed we can kill it. |

Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
182
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Not sure if this has already been said, I would assume so, but can't be bothered to read all the replies here.
Simply put there is no game on the market that I'm aware of that you can skill up / Level up or anything else, multiple characters at the same time on the same account. Their is a design difference between this and most other games in that "leveling up" is something that doesn't require you to grind/play, but that's beside the point. Most other games require you to log in with said character and "kill stuff" for xp, but you still can only do it one character at a time.
There is nothing wrong with the system, working as intended and working exactly as all other MMO's do with the small exception that in this game you level up without having to grind, which as far as I'm concerned is one of the best features of this game and is a superior method to all other MMO's. I think people forget what it was like in the old UO days of putting batteries on your keyboard to skill up, a pointless method replaced by a much better system for accomplishing the same thing (offline leveling up).
The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub.-á |

Itis Zhellin
Zass Proteus Logistik Northern Associates.
16
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Let's face it, if you could skill up on all of your 3 characters/account then none would buy another account and that's bad for business. EVE have around 300K active accounts only because players run 2 or more accounts, so basically the real number of (unique) players could be around 50k. And no mmo would survive with only 50K paid accounts, not even the f2p ones.
But how about a caped skill on alts? Let's say a cap around 5M SP, that would be enough to train a Jita trader, a hauler or whatever you would need to help out your main. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1760
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Oh look, a kid of the current generation. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
22
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
Only one like in my Op therad, that show , here on forum 99% veteranans and old dinosaurs with own vision about EvE, im sure a lot new players who start own adventure with EvE would agree with me with this horrible fact :) well life is brutal.
You guys who are agains my topic, stay with your pirson cell account who alow you to train only one character, like i do, and be happy forever.
Regards If it bleed we can kill it. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1536
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:48:00 -
[57] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:Well i know, this restriction is good for CCP, more alts account more transaction in character basar, better for us all, CCP im realy not againts players and im not against you as gaming company, i love EvE, i realise this should be like it is, because is good for EvE economy and for CCP. However i dislike this fact, EvE got bad restriction because people cant train multiple characters at once. Cheers folks, EvE for bad and good times forever no mater how it is  Why u no read so many replies regarding this 
First of all, you.. can .. not .. train .. multiple .. characters .. at .. once on any of those MMOs you've mentioned before.
Training "multiple" characters on most MMOs : If you want to train another character, you need to stop playing the previous character, hence his leveling stops. Same with Eve, you can stop (pause) your skill training and then train another one. It's the same. Heck, in Eve you don't even have to log in.
As for the fun aspect, fun is what you make of it. Don't compare Eve to other MMOs, Eve is a sandbox, a conflict-driven player interaction and community based sandbox. When most other MMOs holds your hand while you play and give you the "fun" inside a pretty box wrapped with rainbows and candy ribbons, you are given a pickaxe, a calculator, a box of matches and a tent in Eve, you need to search and work for your fun, hence the sandbox. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Pipa Porto
958
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:Only one like in my Op therad, that show , here on forum 99% veteranans and old dinosaurs with own vision about EvE, im sure a lot new players who start own adventure with EvE would agree with me with this horrible fact :) well life is brutal.
You guys who are agains my topic, stay with your pirson cell account who alow you to train only one character, like i do, and be happy forever.
Regards
If you feel the need to train more characters at once, grab another account (the power of two sale is on now, I think).
If you want to grind for SP, grind away and buy the character you want from the Character bazaar.
If you want to get free* SP, scam someone for ISK then buy a character with your ill gotten ISK**
The only limits there are to what you can do in EVE are the ones you choose to impose.
*Only kind of free. **Do not try to scam someone with regards to character sales. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto
Woof. |

DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum Shadow Rock Alliance
366
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:03:00 -
[59] - Quote
I would say EVE is better than most MMO's.
If I pay for 2 accounts in EVE I can gain sp on both of them at the same time.
In other MMO's it is very hard to play two characters at the same time to gain XP.
But in all honesty, I think we have been trolled. Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1536
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
DeBingJos wrote:But in all honesty, I think we have been trolled. In all honesty most people probably know this. It doesn't matter. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
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Hina Yamamoto
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:Hina Yamamoto wrote:Obvious Troll is obvious.
Hi Hina, i see a lot post agains my topic, but also some who agree with me. In my opinion skill training curve betwen EvE and other Mmos is worse in world, ok i know i cant play at once while using multiple characters in other mmo, but character learning curve show simpe facts, in other games learning - fun curve and ability to train other characters are better than in EvE. Btw i dont trolling here i play since 2007 i have no reason to troll players or CCP, well somtime im drunked and i worote horrible posts, like one time per year, but while i wrote post i try always to avoid troling.
Character learning curve? Skill training curve? Learning - fun curve?
In EVE you don't need to be able to train multiple characters. You can be tank or healer at the same time, with the same character. Just train the basic skills, take the right ship for the job and you're ready.
So it looks like you are just drunk. I don't like drunk people.
Maybe these sites will help you. The Theme Parker's Guide to EVE Online: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
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feihcsiM
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
47
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:17:00 -
[62] - Quote
So you're saying
1 character training whether logged in or not (EVE) < (WOW) Grinding all 3 characters, one at a time, only when playing
Ok....
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |

Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
1/10 |

Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
80
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
you should try progressquest sometimes, it might be your dream game |

March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
251
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:58:00 -
[65] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
last time i've checked you only needed "gear" for like 10 millions (DPS fitted catalyst) + skills for like 1-2 weeks to kill hulks in empire. And every hulk "grinded" you some amount of t2 modules and even T2 salvage.
Another example: market. One guy (one of authors of New Eden Weekly) made his first hundreds of millions by trade around Jita in like first months of play. He found some T2 salvaged material which was selling 3 jumps away from Jita like 40-50% cheaper. Pure luck without any skills/grind/etc and some fast money.
Personally i made my first millions just killed some Serpentis rats in asteroid belt. Found some good tags which was selling for CRAZY 400000 ISK!!! That was like 2x of my total wealth that moment.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
49
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
65 posts? 6/10 GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9519
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
Oh, ffsGǪ how can people respond to stoicfaux with anything other than Gǣ Gǥ?! Is there some widespread outbreak of sarcasm-o-meter failure? ARGH!
And OP, learn to read. No-one agrees with you for the simple reason that your base premise is completely incorrect. EVE does in no way differ from other MMOs in regards to how many characters you can train at once. In fact, the only game I can think of off the top of my head that does things differently is Dust 514GǪ
GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2142
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now. 
It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get |

DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum Shadow Rock Alliance
366
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now.  It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get 
That's better than 'Who the **** are you? GTFO!' Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9519
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now.  It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get  On the other hand, that would make you a Mittens-dev alt as well, since that's what I keep being accused ofGǪ beingGǪ ehm. Anyway.
GǪand that's got to count for something, right?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4626
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:11:00 -
[71] - Quote
Itis Zhellin wrote:Let's face it, if you could skill up on all of your 3 characters/account then none would buy another account and that's bad for business. EVE have around 300K active accounts only because players run 2 or more accounts, so basically the real number of (unique) players could be around 50k. And no mmo would survive with only 50K paid accounts, not even the f2p ones.
But how about a caped skill on alts? Let's say a cap around 5M SP, that would be enough to train a Jita trader, a hauler or whatever you would need to help out your main.
Oh hey thanks, I have 2 alts with over 25MP SP each, so I'd be delighted to lose over 55M SP just so that whatever problem you thinik this fixes would be fixed.
(Heh. No) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue. The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets. WHAT F'ING LEVEL CAP!? EvE doesn't have a level cap. Who's being dense now? |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
3485
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
Stop recommending EVE try to be more like boring, grindfest MMO's. Want to train more than one character at once...man up and use an alt like everyone else. Don't ever stick EVE in the same sentence as World of Warcraft ever again. |

Jonah Gravenstein
1317
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:43:00 -
[74] - Quote
Din Chao wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue. The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets. WHAT F'ING LEVEL CAP!? EvE doesn't have a level cap. Who's being dense now?
I believe your sarcasm detector needs repairing CCP can't patch stupid. |

Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:49:00 -
[75] - Quote
Eh, nevermind |

highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
306
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:20:00 -
[76] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language.
IF you allow multiple characters being trained at once, what you have done is opened yourself to people farming characters and selling them as a means of ISK generation in game or for RMT.
That is why you can only train 1 at a time.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |

Kinet
Frog Steamers
8
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:20:00 -
[77] - Quote
I have two hot chicks and this sorta bald dude. What more could I want? |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
493
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:03:00 -
[78] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08 Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |

Widow Cain
47
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:09:00 -
[79] - Quote
Oxylan wrote:... show that your company is very gredy....
Pretty much hit the nail on the head, even if all the pixel macho assholes had to jump on your references to those other MMOs.
I'm just winding down paid time on my last account, when I found out that we pay so Dusties can play free the first thing that came to mind was "A fool and his money"
So all you pixel macho assholes, keep training, month by month, for a future that is never going to come.
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |

Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
9
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:25:00 -
[80] - Quote
Kinet wrote:I have two hot chicks and this sorta bald dude. What more could I want? hair? |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
580
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:45:00 -
[81] - Quote
Nex apparatu5 wrote:Main and two cyno alts.
On two accounts! (One account is a cap pilot) |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
93
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:01:00 -
[82] - Quote
I think they should change it to two toons per account, but they can both train at once.
Multi account users arent like to cancel accounts as they could effectively double their toon count for the same price. And you can still only have one toon on at once on the same account. So people that want to run their own fleet of toons will still need multiple accounts. It is just a better idea. |

Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
89
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Posted - 2012.09.19 04:26:00 -
[83] - Quote
As to "what is the point of 3 characters if you can only train with one"?
you got to love this one, gets 2 extra character, complains about it
so here it goes, 10 reasons why you have 2 extra characters that can not train at the same time
1) your first character is ugly and/or Minmatar but you dont want to biomass him/her 2) fake role play relations with yourself 3) fake role play love triangle with yourself 4) non trained character in a noobship to throw at things 5) train cyno on the second one, use it for your other account as cyno char 6) train cyno on the third one and put it somewhere else for your other account 7) reserve cool name case you have to biomass yourself after the embarrassment of posting a thread where you misspell the title of the game you are playing (in the title of your post). seriously this better be a troll because i can understand completely that you have trouble with the English language (so do I ) but misspelling the name of the game you play? that is awfully close to misspelling your own name 8) making a female character and play dress puppet with her 9) stopping to train a character because you learned everything you want 10) because CCP was just for once trying to be nice to you
and i forgot 11)
11) posting on one so you do not get fired from EVE UNI by Kelduum |

Jojo Booties
3
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:49:00 -
[84] - Quote
+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no. |

Pipa Porto
962
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:26:00 -
[86] - Quote
Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
Why should it be such a big discount over having multiple accounts? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto
Woof. |

Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:48:00 -
[87] - Quote
Once your main finds a role that can sustain your monthly ISK cost to play you can pause his training to make alts. Stealth bomber, scanner, dessie gank alt. Anything but miner is a good choice. You should always have a Jita alt if for no other reason than to watch the riots, an Amarr alt is nice. A totally good for nothing else but scouting war targets alt is nice. Its nice to have at least 2 accounts just for the 4 alts.
Also its nice to fly ships in tandem, which requires 2 active accounts.
But IMHO if you could train on multiple characters on 1 account it would be insanely overpowered.
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Jojo Booties
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:03:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no.
The rich boys and girls, can have all the accounts they please. Having multiple training on one account at a discount, would give the poor people a chance.
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Plaude Pollard
Crimson Cartel
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:24:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Once your main finds a role that can sustain your monthly ISK cost to play you can pause his training to make alts. I'd honestly rather pay for multiple accounts to have 3 characters that can train at the same time than have to pause any of my skill-queues. But that's just because I hate wasting time and thus losing training-time. New to EVE? Want to learn? The Crimson Cartel will train you in the fields of your choice. Mainly active in EU afternoons and evenings. Contact me for more info. |

Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:33:00 -
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Jojo Booties wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no. The rich boys and girls, can have all the accounts they please. Having multiple training on one account at a discount, would give the poor people a chance. A chance to what? What is this "holy grail" that you think you'll attain once you can train 3 characters at once?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:40:00 -
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How about this:
Spend 1 PLEX to be able to train a second character on the account for 30 days.
Most of the common alt fucntions (scout, cyno, hauler, trader) can be trained within 30 (or at most 60) days anyway. The 2-PLEX overhead for transferring low-skill alt characters is prohibitive, so this would provide a simple, reasonably costed alternative for that function. People who want to train a second character indefinitely can do so, but they might as well use a second account and gain the extra utility.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Rainbow Room
The 404
3
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:01:00 -
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In my opinion, nothing needs to be changed. There aren't any other MMOs that allow you to train multiple characters at the same time so why should this.
The fact you can subscribe using plex enhances this opinion. I have 2 accounts so over the course of the month, I ensure I have enough Isk to pay for the second account. It doesn't take long to raise that money running missions or whatever.
So, if you want to train 2 characters, do enough to raise 500mill isk per month (which actually isn't a lot, on average 16 mill per day which is what, 1 lvl 4 mission)
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1553
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:06:00 -
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Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
lolno. this is even worse than ingame item shop implementation. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Pipa Porto
965
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Posted - 2012.09.19 21:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:How about this:
Spend 1 PLEX to be able to train a second character on the account for 30 days.
Most of the common alt fucntions (scout, cyno, hauler, trader) can be trained within 30 (or at most 60) days anyway. The 2-PLEX overhead for transferring low-skill alt characters is prohibitive, so this would provide a simple, reasonably costed alternative for that function. People who want to train a second character indefinitely can do so, but they might as well use a second account and gain the extra utility.
But then CCP loses the revenue they gain from having that 2 PLEX overhead, and you gain the advantage of being able to toggle the training for free.
It's not a big deal, and I don't honestly care either way (if I had to pick, I'd favor it, I guess, because it could be useful to me), but what's in it for CCP? Either people use it to train extra characters indefinitely and CCP gets the same revenue as they do now, or people use it to train limited queue characters and CCP loses out on $20-$35 for each person who does that. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Astroniomix
Thorn Project
239
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Posted - 2012.09.19 21:42:00 -
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Widow Cain wrote:Oxylan wrote:... show that your company is very gredy.... Pretty much hit the nail on the head, even if all the pixel macho assholes had to jump on your references to those other MMOs. I'm just winding down paid time on my last account, when I found out that we pay so Dusties can play free the first thing that came to mind was "A fool and his money" So all you pixel macho assholes, keep training, month by month, for a future that is never going to come. You appear vexed, got anything constructive to say in that bag of tricks of yours? |
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