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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.07.17 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson Any end-game has to be better than collecting space barbie clothes between server crashes while goons give each other 'special shovels' though.
You think so? Keep playing Rift then, but don't say I didn't warn you.
Quote: Nothing in EVE will ever require real life money, as long as players are selling PLEX for ISK. Not even the monocle! http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/currencyCycle.jpg |
Ridley Tree
Veto.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rihana
hate to burst your bubble bro but your the stupid one here if you don't realize that someone pays CCP for that
So how did you manage to pull from his post that he does not know that someone else paid CCP the real life cash? _______
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:03:00 -
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Just in case these trolls are confusing people, I'll try to simplify it:
If you buy clothes (whether with $ or ISK,) you encourage CCP to continue devoting significant development resources to microtransactions/cash shops and to continue devoting negligible development resources to Internet Spaceships.
If you don't buy clothes (whether with $ or ISK,) you encourage CCP to stop devoting significant development resources to microtransactions/cash shops and to return to devoting significant development resources to Internet Spaceships.
CCP has demonstrated convincingly and conclusively that they can't do both at the same time. So if you like EVE (Internet Spaceships,) you would be idiotic to buy clothes or any other non-PLEX cash shop items.
If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. If you punish bad behavior, you get less of it. CCP is watching what you do, not what you say.
"I represent those who voted for me, not 'everyone'. Don't give me your entitled voter schtick ..." ~CSM Chair Mittens |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Perditus Peregrinus
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:07:00 -
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I think there is a misconception about the ISK > PLEX > Aurum thing.
I would think most people buy GTCs to sell them for ISK. Some players choose to do it through the GTC sales forum, while others choose to break them and sell them on the market as PLEX for a little bit more. Either way, the player who initially purchased the GTC still had the same goal in mind -- to turn RL $ into ISK.
From there, the PLEX is the vessel in which items on the NeX are bought. Players give the person who bought the GTC/PLEX their ISK and then they buy the vanity item with their PLEX. So what you are doing in turn is basically paying ISK to somebody to buy a vanity item.
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson So if you like EVE (Internet Spaceships,) you would be idiotic to buy clothes or any other non-PLEX cash shop items.
EVE might be just "Internet Spaceships" for you, but dont expect everyone else to share your narrow viewpoint.
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OHU812
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:12:00 -
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Haven't
Future? There is no future in EVE for me, sorry.
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania Why should I buy any AUR at all? Clothes designs are horrible and no one will see it in any case. Monocle? It's just a bad joke, really.
This.
If anything decent appears I will pay it with ISK since I have enough of that. It's a side effect of enjoying the game, so I can squander a bit of it - if the reward is right. At the moment it's not. I'd rather play one more month or buy a faction BS instead of buying a crappy shirt.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: malaire
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson So if you like EVE (Internet Spaceships,) you would be idiotic to buy clothes or any other non-PLEX cash shop items.
EVE might be just "Internet Spaceships" for you, but dont expect everyone else to share your narrow viewpoint.
What other content do you see there? Can you really call CQ a "content"? It's 3/4-ths unfinished (not even talking about walking in stations). For me it looks like a poor excuse to open an MT store and to milk Eve players for a little bit more money.
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Gurgeh Murat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
something
IS THERE NO ESCAPE FROM THIS PLAGUE? **** off you attention *****. Ive read posts ive agreed with, ive read posts ive disagreed with, I value both. Your a waste of time, and your wasting more of my time even now. DIAF. Ingame ofc. Yes, IMAD!!!!111!!!1!!!!
Roll on the new forums with the one click block.
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Xercodo
Amarr Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: malaire
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson So if you like EVE (Internet Spaceships,) you would be idiotic to buy clothes or any other non-PLEX cash shop items.
EVE might be just "Internet Spaceships" for you, but dont expect everyone else to share your narrow viewpoint.
What other content do you see there? Can you really call CQ a "content"? It's 3/4-ths unfinished (not even talking about walking in stations).
that was kinda the point in CCP following their "incremental releases" like with incursions
at the end of Noevember we had a patch that changed our login screens to INCURSION but the noctis and learning removal wasnt till mid December and the actual incursions themselves along with the new character creator didnt hit until mid January
if you keep that sort of schedule going we're due for some shinies in late July and even more stuff in August with a "niffy incremental change" about mid october
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Kiran
Minmatar Knights of Azrael
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:59:00 -
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Not going to waste ISK or real life cash on over priced virtual goods.
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Aldan Romar
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:59:00 -
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I'm buying Aurum with PLEX that I bought with real money.
But then I'm also sometimes selling PLEX that I bought for real money for ISK, so not much difference.
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Cerysse D'nari
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Posted - 2011.07.17 10:44:00 -
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Sexual favours.
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Cailais To be honest I cant see why many would wish to go down the path of ISK > PLEX > AUR.
It strikes me that ISK > PLEX > Game Time is simply a better deal. That's why the NeX store fails so hard, you could either have a functionless 'vanity' item OR weeks of game play 'free'.
That's a correlation rarely mentioned (most focus on ú$ú$ > PLEX > AUR) when evaluating the perceived value of NeX goods.
This might change with DUST depending upon what can solely be purchased with AUR. (i.e game influencing items)
C.
Says the guy with the functionless vanity item adhered to his cranium.
Close as I could get to how my avatar looked pre-incarna. Hows your monocle?
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson Just in case these trolls are confusing people, I'll try to simplify it:
If you buy clothes (whether with $ or ISK,) you encourage CCP to continue devoting significant development resources to microtransactions/cash shops and to continue devoting negligible development resources to Internet Spaceships.
If you don't buy clothes (whether with $ or ISK,) you encourage CCP to stop devoting significant development resources to microtransactions/cash shops and to return to devoting significant development resources to Internet Spaceships.
CCP has demonstrated convincingly and conclusively that they can't do both at the same time. So if you like EVE (Internet Spaceships,) you would be idiotic to buy clothes or any other non-PLEX cash shop items.
If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. If you punish bad behavior, you get less of it. CCP is watching what you do, not what you say.
Here's one option you forgot: you buy clothes and such from the NeX, CCP profits big time and they are able to shovel more and more into developing Eve into the ultimate sci-fi simulator. That's the option I like best. ~Gnosis~ |
Juliette DuBois
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Rihana Rini also people fail to realize that even if you buy you aurum with the isk>plex>aur setup somebody had to pay RL monies to get that plex. its like the old saying "There is no such thing as a free lunch."
What you and the other closed minds fail to realize is yes, there is such a thing as a free lunch. But only for us privileged few that ride on the backs of dumb people that have to pay for their iskies.
I don't care that some loser isn't capable of making money and buys GTCs. I only care that I play for free because of him.
God bless the stupid. Without them I'd have to pull out the CC and actually pay for this game.
Mr Epeen
If you have to spend one second doing something in game to generate that isk you ain`t playing for free.
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: J Kunjeh
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson sensible stuff
Here's one option you forgot: you buy clothes and such from the NeX, CCP profits big time and they are able to shovel more and more into the dividends they pay their shareholders. That's the option I like best.
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Potato IQ
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Posted - 2011.07.17 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Cailais To be honest I cant see why many would wish to go down the path of ISK > PLEX > AUR. It strikes me that ISK > PLEX > Game Time is simply a better deal. That's why the NeX store fails so hard, you could either have a functionless 'vanity' item OR weeks of game play 'free'. That's a correlation rarely mentioned (most focus on ú$ú$ > PLEX > AUR) when evaluating the perceived value of NeX goods.
And that's why I keep saying that, at least to me, it seems obvious the NEX eventually ended up custom-tailored for those people with metric truckloads of unused ISK, NOT for people with "just a bit of ISK" nor for people that want to spend RL cash.
And therein lies the danger that CCP has adopted with the NEX store
Breaking the simple model that PLEX offered with this increased demand is poor strategy. At what price will PLEX become beyond affordable for the main and alts if your in the æjust a bit of ISKÆ camp? Will be interesting to see how dedicated to Eve these players are when they have to pay to play with RL monies
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P42ALPHA
Gallente nul-li-fy Usurper.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 12:10:00 -
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Has anyone thought of the fact, forgeting about MT-since there has been Plex, if u buy it with real money or grind for 40 hours to buy that super special space ship for isk.
No matter what u do, your isk u buy, or use to perchase that shiny is in a sense all money going to ccp in one form or another. Cause at the end of the day, plex is a isk sink, and if u buy plex or not, your isk will more then likley end up there.
So in a months time, if u are a pure gamer, dont buy plex for cash, or dont buy plex for isk. Say if u grind you balls off. You then buy that faction battle ship/hulk what ever. The guy you buy it from might not be buying his play time through you, but the guy or the the other guy supplying the minerals, the prints, the POS. Has bought plex with your hard earned work. LAWL
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.17 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Originally by: J Kunjeh
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson sensible stuff
Here's one option you forgot: you buy clothes and such from the NeX, CCP profits big time and they are able to shovel more and more into the dividends they pay their shareholders. That's the option I like best.
Fixed it for you Mr. Fanboy/Dev Alt.
Not a Dev alt, just a fanboi. ~Gnosis~ |
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Astarte Eos
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Posted - 2011.07.17 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rihana Rini
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Rihana Rini also people fail to realize that even if you buy you aurum with the isk>plex>aur setup somebody had to pay RL monies to get that plex. its like the old saying "There is no such thing as a free lunch."
What you and the other closed minds fail to realize is yes, there is such a thing as a free lunch. But only for us privileged few that ride on the backs of dumb people that have to pay for their iskies.
I don't care that some loser isn't capable of making money and buys GTCs. I only care that I play for free because of him.
God bless the stupid. Without them I'd have to pull out the CC and actually pay for this game.
Mr Epeen
hate to burst your bubble bro but your the stupid one here if you don't realize that someone pays CCP for that PLEX. last time i checked there was no blueprint to manufacture PLEX, so even if you use your isk to buy it you are still paying CCP for that game time. sorry if that is hard for you to comprehend but that is the simplest way i can put it. altho you probably think that the minerals you mine are free too each month of game time that is played by all players has been paid for by real life money.
there is no way around this, even tho you think its free its not. just because your mommie makes you a nice sandwich while you are in the basement running your 5 account mining ops so you can play for "free", somebody had to pay for the sandwich. sure to you it seems free cause you didn't contribute to its creation or pay for it but ask your mommy what she had to do to earn that sandwich for you.
the second point is that you are one of the dummies that plays into CCP's business strategy by buying PLEX with isk and then converting it to aur thinking your are getting it for free. as john above me said any player who truly loves the game will not use aur at all and show CCP loud and clear that we don't want them wasting time on that stuff. however if you keep playing pimp my character then that just encourages them to spend more resources on vanity items for you.
Sorry but we poor people can't take you seriously unless you have a monocle. All the trusted people have monocles people look up to because they are always right. They know what they are talking about. I don't mind people paying for my game, so can I have a plex then?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: J Kunjeh Here's one option you forgot: you buy clothes and such from the NeX, CCP profits big time and they are able to shovel more and more into developing Eve into the ultimate sci-fi simulator. That's the option I like best.
How naive.
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Isaa'c
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Posted - 2011.07.17 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Rihana Rini
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Rihana Rini also people fail to realize that even if you buy you aurum with the isk>plex>aur setup somebody had to pay RL monies to get that plex. its like the old saying "There is no such thing as a free lunch."
What you and the other closed minds fail to realize is yes, there is such a thing as a free lunch. But only for us privileged few that ride on the backs of dumb people that have to pay for their iskies.
I don't care that some loser isn't capable of making money and buys GTCs. I only care that I play for free because of him.
God bless the stupid. Without them I'd have to pull out the CC and actually pay for this game.
Mr Epeen
hate to burst your bubble bro but your the stupid one here if you don't realize that someone pays CCP for that PLEX. last time i checked there was no blueprint to manufacture PLEX, so even if you use your isk to buy it you are still paying CCP for that game time. sorry if that is hard for you to comprehend but that is the simplest way i can put it. altho you probably think that the minerals you mine are free too each month of game time that is played by all players has been paid for by real life money.
there is no way around this, even tho you think its free its not. just because your mommie makes you a nice sandwich while you are in the basement running your 5 account mining ops so you can play for "free", somebody had to pay for the sandwich. sure to you it seems free cause you didn't contribute to its creation or pay for it but ask your mommy what she had to do to earn that sandwich for you.
the second point is that you are one of the dummies that plays into CCP's business strategy by buying PLEX with isk and then converting it to aur thinking your are getting it for free. as john above me said any player who truly loves the game will not use aur at all and show CCP loud and clear that we don't want them wasting time on that stuff. however if you keep playing pimp my character then that just encourages them to spend more resources on vanity items for you.
Capitalization, punctuation, basic grammar knowledge and some small ability at reading comprehension would make viewing that mess of verbal diarrhea a little more palatable.
If all you can do is play grammar police when he clearly and very legibly called you out and was right, than you lose
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.17 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Isaa'c
If all you can do is play grammar police when he clearly and very legibly called you out and was right, THEN you lose
FIXD IT 4 U
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