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Alkyria Decile
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.17 17:53:00 -
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In the fireside chat they mentioned that they were currently looking at 10 ships for rebalancing and the csms said they whole heartedly agreed that at least 8 of them really needed it. Given that one is the dram I'm curious what people think the other 9 might be since I don't know eve balance well enough to make an educated guess myself. I guess the list of ships could be the capitals + 2 other ships but here's hoping that its 10 ships being looked at in addition to capitals.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Abrazzar on 17/07/2011 18:00:55
Dramiel and the 8 Assault Frigates?
Edit: Or maybe the Electronic Attack Ships, they're barely used, too.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:08:00 -
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The Maller is a possible one. The artwork revamp is seriously at odds with the frankly pathetic in-game performance.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.17 18:11:00 -
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Supercaps are more or less confirmed. I'd wager dramiel and mach are the remaining two. I'd wish it was Eos and Tengu.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:13:00 -
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Super carriers , Dram, Logistics (warp speed buff) are confirmed. There was mention it might be possible to give some further love to the Oneiros, though, I'm not sure if CCP_Tallest will make that change now, or if he will wait and include it as part of a Gallente rebalance in general. Titans wont get touched CCP_Soundwave thinks they are pretty much working as intended so I doubt they will get changed. All the dreadnoughts need to be looked at. All the Assault and E-War frigates. In fact is maybe easier to list the ships which don't need a balance 
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
In fact is maybe easier to list the ships which don't need a balance
Agreed. Anything with projectiles, large lasers, or heavy missiles goes on the "done," sheet. Everything else needs work.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
In fact is maybe easier to list the ships which don't need a balance
Agreed. Anything with projectiles, large lasers, or heavy missiles goes on the "done," sheet. Everything else needs work.
You just gave a nice example why blanket statements are terrible idea.
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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
In fact is maybe easier to list the ships which don't need a balance
Agreed. Anything with projectiles, large lasers, or heavy missiles goes on the "done," sheet. Everything else needs work.
I talked to the lead engineer in charge of power grid on my Nighthawk. He would like a word with you. 
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: DemetRYS on 17/07/2011 19:50:01
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
In fact is maybe easier to list the ships which don't need a balance
Agreed. Anything with projectiles, large lasers, or heavy missiles goes on the "done," sheet. Everything else needs work.
You just gave a nice example why blanket statements are terrible idea.
I'm all ears. Can you name me a ship in one of those catergories that's in dire need of a buff?
Cerb, that's about all I can come up with. Comparing the issues of the nighthawk to say... well any hybrid ship, along with supers, and the rest that need serious re-balancing. That's just a little rich.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
I'm all ears. Can you name me a ship in one of those catergories that's in dire need of a buff?
Cerb, that's about all I can come up with. Comparing the issues of the nighthawk to say... well any hybrid ship, along with supers, and the rest that need serious re-balancing. That's just a little rich.
Bellicose
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.07.17 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: DemetRYS
I'm all ears. Can you name me a ship in one of those catergories that's in dire need of a buff?
Cerb, that's about all I can come up with. Comparing the issues of the nighthawk to say... well any hybrid ship, along with supers, and the rest that need serious re-balancing. That's just a little rich.
Bellicose
hmmm... flycatcher could need some help.
Eris too.
anyways on the OP: 10 ships need rebalancing...?
AF's and EAF's are some.. but those are like 12 already.
what about hybrid-wielding ships?
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
hmmm... flycatcher could need some help.
Eris too.
Neither of those use heavy missiles, projectiles nor large lazors.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Grimpak
hmmm... flycatcher could need some help.
Eris too.
Neither of those use heavy missiles, projectiles nor large lazors.
oh you and your words, you playful word guy.
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Bellicose
Is underrated.
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:11:00 -
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I certainly hope they don't consider increasing the warp speed on logistics as "4". Definitely the dramiel, oneiros, 4 supercarriers, and ....?
Four other ships. Best bet is a shipclass. Titans have been ruled out. Electronic attack frigates maybe?
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 17/07/2011 20:44:27
Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: NoNah
Bellicose
Is underrated.
Its not underrated, its simply garbage. By your logic we could just label the problematic gallente ships as 'underrated' and be done with it. 
The Stabber, Caracal, Scythe, Nighthawk and Cerberus are also garbage. Oh, and every single minnie frig that isnt a Rifter, as well as the Hyena.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Its not underrated, its simply garbage. By your logic we could just label the problematic gallente ships as 'underrated' and be done with it.
The Stabber, Caracal, Scythe, Nighthawk and Cerberus are also garbage. Oh, and every single minnie frig that isnt a Rifter, as well as the Hyena.
Vigil.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Vigil.
Goes with 'minnie frig that isnt a Rifter'.
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: NoNah
Vigil.
Goes with 'minnie frig that isnt a Rifter'.
The vigil is amazing.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: NoNah
Vigil.
Goes with 'minnie frig that isnt a Rifter'.
The vigil is amazing.
So is the Maulus. Your point?
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Doctor Mabuse
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Doctor Mabuse on 17/07/2011 21:13:48
Astarte, Eos, Deimos, Sin?
Hmm, is there a pattern there?
Edit: Wait! Might as well throw in the specialist damping ships as well. What a surprise, they also fit the pattern.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: NoNah
Vigil.
Goes with 'minnie frig that isnt a Rifter'.
The vigil is amazing.
So is the Maulus. Your point?
You stated all minnie frigs bar the rifter needed a buff. The vigil does not.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
You stated all minnie frigs bar the rifter needed a buff. The vigil does not.
Yes it does, though not as bad I agree.
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: NoNah
You stated all minnie frigs bar the rifter needed a buff. The vigil does not.
Yes it does, though not as bad I agree.
It doesn't. Not at all.
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Wedding Peach
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:35:00 -
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10 ships that need rebalancing...
I'm thinking they are discussing...
1. Dramiel
2. Omen
3. Succubus
4. Eagle
5. Deimos
6. Eos
7. Drake
8. Super Caps
9. Phantasm
10. Thorax
Could be wrong about the Sansha ships. Though, you really can't compare the Succubus to the Dramiel.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.17 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
It doesn't. Not at all.
It sucks at its designated role, yes it needs a boost. Being able to perform other roles (poorly) is not an excuse.
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Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 17/07/2011 22:06:48
I think it would be nice and wise - considering the importance of NPE - to this game/CCP's vision - that the core T1 Frigates and Cruisers in complete be priority. New Players spend alot of time in these ships (usually the first year or so) and my thought is alot of people rush to BS's because they see the T1 Frigs and Cruisers as, well... Damn Ugly! - most of them are.
They could all use a big bit of love, then people who have to fly them might well enjoy that (and the game) more - CCP wants new players to come, give them a frigate that looks like the new Fighter Bombers style - not a turd in space.
This would likely lead to people doing more time [and learning the supporting skills for a fitting ships correctly] in the smaller ships rather than trying to get into a BS [the coolest ship within reach of new players] and being totally useless because they can't fit them correctly. I see this again and again with new players, they want to look at something that looks good and it should be. Having a nice ship to look at should be the most important part of NPE, and balance should just be important all around!
I would support T1 frigate hulls for new art and re-balance first all the way.
I DON'T CARE IF THAT "DOOR" EVER GOES ANYWHERE - and raise prices on NeX, bleed the foppish idiots dry!
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:26:00 -
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chimera. worst fitting of all carriers in game. needs more cpu.
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DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: General Trajan
chimera. worst fitting of all carriers in game. needs more cpu.
The niddy would like a word with you.
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: DemetRYS
Originally by: General Trajan
chimera. worst fitting of all carriers in game. needs more cpu.
The niddy would like a word with you.
"bartender! make that another Quafe zero for my buddy here."
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