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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.23 01:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I am not selling anything, in case the thread title whooshed well above you.
I also get a lot of feedback but I get it in the form of eve-mails.
The reason I am universally given for them not posting on the forum is because rude and nasty people like you infest the threads.
Your kind makes me vomit.
Thiny veiled sales pitch is thiny veiled.
Honestly if you can't admit this is a scam to funnel more people over to your cohort at forexfactory, that is fine. But you may want to stop the endless stream of angsty self-pity if you want to make any more sales before you go.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.23 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 23/07/2011 07:38:52
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Thiny veiled sales pitch is thiny veiled.
Honestly if you can't admit this is a scam to funnel more people over to your cohort at forexfactory, that is fine. But you may want to stop the endless stream of angsty self-pity if you want to make any more sales before you go.
The Forex Factory link is:
- To show that what I say is not invented out of thin air but is teached, used and applied by others.
- To give people material from the source.
- To let those interested go where the "theorycraft" is posted, I cannot go in depth enough on an EvE forum, I would have to start posting about RL markets so much that I'd go so much offtopic and CCP would lock my posts.
- It is not in the Forex Factory so called "commercial section" like other fundamental threads like James16's but in a "totally free" section.
- There is no payware *anything* currently offered, however I am not that thread OP's spouse to know his own plans.
- On my website where I put my own course, it's all available to everyone.
Edit: if one day I decided to make something payware, that would certainly not be on Forex Factory but a new website not related to the gaming one. It'd be not really "serious" to put a payware webinar on an hobby gaming forum nor CCP and the other game makers would let me mix amateur IP usage with my own commercial scope.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.23 08:59:00 -
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Ok thanks for clearing that up.
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Callean Drevus
Caldari
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping
Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.07.23 11:11:00 -
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Well, Vaerah, I for one, am happy that you post this information, even if I won't use it myself.
Good luck with the trolls, there's really no helping it...
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"A fool flatters himself, a wise man flatters the fool."
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.23 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 23/07/2011 16:02:58
PLEX market
Downloadable data: Linkage.
Resulting graph:
Notice the hammering of the support, CCP re-introduced PLEX for buddy to avoid this support being broken, because if this happens, price will fall considerably and this would not do good because the RMTers could take advantage.
Despite that, the market pressure is still strong.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2011.07.24 04:02:00 -
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Without knowing how you're generating the input data this is really more than an idle curiosity.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.24 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: corestwo
Without knowing how you're generating the input data this is really more than an idle curiosity.
It's a bridge.
Those interested in learning about RL finance thru this method may start like I did:
EvE graphs => EvE candle bar graphs => RL securities candle bar graphs.
The didactical part is in assisting people in the "migration" from the game to the real thing.
How exactly this is done is my technology but that is not the focal point, at all.
The focal point is the markets as they look.
This method in fact is not just "technical analysis" (or chartology as the haters say) but teaches to spot the long term fundamental changes as well.
What happens "under the hood" is not really relevant.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:59:00 -
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Well just came back from a few weeks of holiday in spain.
Have fun in whatever next game your gonna play.Eve is made to come and go at times , it's been about 2.5 to 3.5 years now that i had my last long break but i am allways expecting it to come again soon.
So enjoy the break and cya around one day because you don't quit eve for good ever 
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.24 10:51:00 -
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Due to some amount of feedback in my own tongue, I am going to publish where the whole method originated from (before its author also published on Forex Factory): an Italian finance forum called ForumUp.
Here you will find the whole thing explained at length with 100+ pages of examples.
The guy also holds free webinars so you are encouraged to show up over there and enjoy all what I cannot write here (which is too long and offtopic for a game).
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix
The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.24 19:52:00 -
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Vaerah, I get to step #24 and the popup window is not populated with the symbols that were successfully mapped.
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix
The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.24 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kevric
Vaerah, I get to step #24 and the popup window is not populated with the symbols that were successfully mapped.
Nvm, I got it.
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix
The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.24 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
How to do trade stuff profitably:
1) Go to the bottom of the screen, click "Resolution" (see picture above) and select Monthly (step 1), Weekly (step 2), Daily (step 3). In step 1
In step 1 we draw the monthly price levels by using the "Horizontal line drawing tool" (see picture above), one per price swing, touching the tops or bottoms of the candle bars. Color will be purple. We determine what price is doing (going up / down / ranging) aka WPD depending on how the swings are going.
In step 2 we draw the weekly price levels just for the last weeks, in the same way we did above. Color will be cyan. Again we determine WPD and if it's discordant with the monthly WPD we have to switch to another item, market is not safe to trade ATM.
In step 3 we draw the daily price levels just for the last days, in the same way we did above. Color will be orange. We determine where price is going aka WPG. Depending on the candles being able to close above a certain price level or not, we can know what the markets tells us about what we should do.
Ok, I think I need a bit more explanation about where to draw these lines. For example if I'm looking at a monthly chart for the past year do I draw 12 purple lines? And how do I decide if I should draw the line at the top or the bottom of the candlebar?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.24 23:50:00 -
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The lines are drawn in 3 phases, first on monthly graph (M), then on weekly (W) and finally on the daily (D). I use (it's just my convention) purple lines for M, cyan ones for W, orange ones for D.
All the horizontal lines are drawn either at the open or at the close, never on the high / low.
All the lines are drawn so that they touch the highs and the lows of swings. Swings are the typical price "serpentine" motions you may easily see on most markets.
IE imagine the current swing forms an "S". You put a line below the S and one above. You'll notice how often those levels are almost sitting at round numbers, fibonacci numbers and so on. I cannot explain the whole details about swings here, but you may find some examples and explanation here.
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix
The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.25 13:14:00 -
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One other question are you just getting your item data from plain old market dumps? |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.25 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kevric
One other question are you just getting your item data from plain old market dumps?
No, I posted above how it works.
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Since it's one of these days hot talks, today's downloadable price data is about Technetium.
Technetium-OHLC-YMDThe Forge.zip - 7.3 KB
Of course in the Technetium thread people go Ooooh, aaaah at the price changes, while to us it's is just so obvious.
Look at how the market tells what to do.
Monthly graph
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As the 2 months PB (pin bar) shows, a selling pressure developed over two months. It means that investors had 2 months to figure out it was time to unload.
2 months PB is a PB that is the "sum" or overlay of two same top / bottom candles resulting in one huge PB, in this case the result was a bearish PB. The shown 2M PB is not the cleanest out there, this is due to EvE having clipped the second candle shadow, need to get trained for these kinds of behavior.
First sign of selling pressures are visible on the first candle, in fact the shadow (upper candle "wich") is longer than the tail.
Weekly graph
The situation is even cleaner and safe to be traded (retracement trading is the safest). Not only the direction is obviously downwards but we have two price patterns aiding at finding a trade setup even on the weekly scale. IE we didn't even need to further go down to the daily chart, the weekly said it all.
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Close to the top there is a circled formation called DBHLC (double bar high, low close) that indicates bearish pressure. The second element is a strong bearish PB. Both the DBHLC and PB retrace (touch) the monthly purple price level above, which gives them power and tell us that it is safe to assume the trade will last till the next monthly price level or equivalently strong price level.
In a RL trade, you would have put the stop loss at said resistance purple line at 123k, take profit at the next (71k) with intermediate take profits at the weekly (cyan) price levels and important BRN.
It was of NO SURPRISE how price behaved, it met the very important psychological level at 80k, where lots of people start buying "the dip" because they assume 80k is really a good deal.
Next weeks, price might hit 100k and then will have to win the weekly resistance that sits there (it's also a BRN).
If someone has sold out and now is seeking for possible entries, it's too late. You have to wait for the current candle to close and tell what the market wants to do next. If it closes above a weekly line, you may seek for price action (i.e. patterns) suggesting an entry or (safer) for a dip-retracement touching those weekly lines before price goes up again.
I would not trade without such safegurads because if you look at the overall picture, you can easily spot a shoulder on March-April, an head (June) and now an attempt for a second rise... which could be a second shoulder before price crashes further. Therefore, it's better to be safe than sorry and ask the market what it wants to do itself (RET W on 93k would be his OK to buy). |
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