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Tippia
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.24 00:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Sieges
I have not seen a population drop.
I have.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.24 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Coco Caine
Server population != Subscriptions
Actually, the stats have shown that the two are pretty closely linked. Sure, they're not the same number, but the ratio has been fairly consistent over the years.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.26 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kin Netics
You are not addressing the obvious "It's summer".
Originally by: Kin Netics
ITS FREAKING SUMMER BRO!
Originally by: baltec1
Welcome to the yearly summer slowdown.
No. Summers have historically shown increased participation as a summer patch coincides with people going on vacation, which then slows down as vacations come to an end and as the autum terms begin.
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Actually all summer expansins didn't perform as well as the rest, which is only natural. As the poster above me said Incarna pretty much follows the common trend.
Not quite. Incarna showed an immediate and severe reduction of players, unlike previous summers, where the population has increased during the same period.
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
The dip in numbers after incarna is very small and can easily be chalked to the usual summer dip
No it can't because EVE does not have a "usual summer dip". The actual dip comes in August, and unlike Tyrannis, Incursion did not create a spike in activity ù it actually killed a spike that was building up.
So let's get this straight once and for all: Incarna did something no other patch has done ù it failed to produce the normal summer spike. One was building, as normal, but Incarna stopped it dead in its tracks.
Originally by: Alexei Bourkov
Where's the graph pulled from? What's the original source of data? Who compiled it?
I compiled it from daily peak onine user statistics as published by CCP's own API. As you can see, Incarna has been an unmitigated disaster.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.26 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Wreckar
So what happens when CCP removes a bunch of bots?
The same thing that happened in 2009.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.26 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 26/07/2011 17:43:05
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Really now.
Really now. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Graph shows quite clearly than the summer dip does happen, and it happens right from the end of of June spanning across July. Oops.
This year, yes. Previous years, no. The difference? This year, Incarna was released at the end of June and killed the building summer peak. Tyrannis looks like it was different because it created a huge peak at patch release, but the summer bump compared to the spring before it is readily apparent. The summer after Apocrypha looks different because several thousand 23/7 bots were kicked out ù adjust the curve for them and you see a rise over the summer months.
So yes, really, the whole ôsummer slumpö thing is just a myth, and Incarna shows a drastically different (and very alarming) development than any other patch before it.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.26 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 26/07/2011 19:25:36
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Last year: summer dip very isible between the beginning of july and the beginning of august.
Last year: end of summer higher than the spring; middle of summer higher than the end.
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2 years ago: Huge dip.
àa dip of ~5,000 players, just the same as the number of bots booted, which happened at the exact time as when that number of bots were booted. If you want to call the truth "weak"à well, that actually explains a lot about what you're trying to say.
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The only alarming thing about incarna is
àhow it did something no other patch has done: it has killed a peak that was clearly beginning to build at a time when such peak normally evolve.
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By the way, you're still very conveniently forgetting to name one P2P mmorpg that after 8 years is going as strong as EVE
So what? That only shows how abysmal Incarna is since it breaks that streak like a iron bar to the shins. EVE has been able to grow even over the summers, except after Incarna.
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