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Maverick2011
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:21:00 -
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Though Star Wars will be more WoW-Like it will be still a sci-fi MMORPG with some space combat included. Are you planning to play it?
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Zakua Corbin
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:23:00 -
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yes I will play it. I am bumbed it's so cartoony looking but Ima give it a shot. Im not dumping my efforts here tho.
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Wacktopia
Sicarius. Legion of The Damned.
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:26:00 -
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Star wars TOR will have: hardly any crafting player content; limited exploration with a really stupid trying-to-cover-up-what-is-really-just-instancing system; wow-clone combat mechanics and cartoon-ish player graphics and on top of all this has absolutely no MMO innovation what-so-ever.
I'd love to play this game but the more I read the more I fear the fail.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Emminent Terraforming O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:29:00 -
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TOR will impact both EVE and WOW at release. and then as people rapidly consume content and EA fails as usual to keep up with publishing more content people will come back to EVE and/or WoW and go back to their normal MMO habits.
Every new MMO gets called (current mmo name here) Killer. and yet it seems the new ones have a poor track record of killing the existing ones or even impacting them.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:31:00 -
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I am exceedingly hopeful that TOR will replace Warcraft for me in the genre they both compete in.
As for EVE, why would I replace an apple with an orange?
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:32:00 -
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honestly it kinda just looks like star wars galaxy. If it acts and plays like some combination of star wars galaxy and guild wars. (it looks more like guild wars than wow to me) If its just a clone of those two it should have that same bell curve of subscriptions, increasing for 4 months then a decline over then next 2 years. In that time they will go through micro transactions and possibly a free to play model. -------------
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Cailais
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:34:00 -
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SWTOR might have an impact. I recall when a lot of SW NGE refugees arrived here in EVE a few years back now and at least some of them will be tempted back by the IP if nothing else.
EVE has been increasingly moving towards the 'middle ground' of MMOs by attempting to appeal to a broader audience rather than being radically different. If EVE has moved too much to differentiate itself from SWTOR then players will jump to which ever IP/Universe they prefer - most likely SW. If it's sandbox charms are sufficient however they may stay.
C.
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Not-Apsalar
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Not-Apsalar on 27/07/2011 15:34:40
Originally by: Maverick2011 Though Star Wars will be more WoW-Like it will be still a sci-fi MMORPG with some space combat included. Are you planning to play it?
If I recall, the space combat is on rails, a la Rebel Assault II. No thanks
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Naran Eto
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maverick2011 Though Star Wars will be more WoW-Like it will be still a sci-fi MMORPG with some space combat included. Are you planning to play it?
If you call the rubbish they have added "space combat" LOL. Have you seen it? It's space ships on rails, you man the gun while the ship flies itself and you shoot at stuff, not exactly an EVE killer IMO.
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:37:00 -
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I will definitely be playing it. As for how long, that depends on how quality of a game it is.
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Naran Eto
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Naran Eto on 27/07/2011 15:45:22 Edited by: Naran Eto on 27/07/2011 15:45:03 Edited by: Naran Eto on 27/07/2011 15:44:27
Originally by: Lithalnas honestly it kinda just looks like star wars galaxy.
It looks and plays absolutely nothing like Starwars Galaxies thank you very much.
Starwars galaxies is a sandbox MMO set in the galctic empire era of SW (the most famous era which is well documented), with "realistic" character models (they used motion capture for character models), an advanced crafting model, freeform housing and decorating, a flight sim style space component, open world pvp and content that has been geared toward solo and groups, the quests do not lead you around by the nose either.
SW:TOR will not be sandbox and will be set in an era thousands of years before the republic even existed (a timeline no-one has ever seen or heard of until recently), have "cartoon like" character models, the barest minimum of crafting (from what i understand it's somethign like collect this and this and give it to an npc to get your item), no housing or decorating, spaceships on rails, arena style pvp and content that is geared toward solo only (you get companions that pretty much means you don't have to interact with anyone else), the quests are a long storyline that you have to follow to advance.
Absolutely no comparison. Not similar at all.
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Flynn Fetladral
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:44:00 -
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Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:49:00 -
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I doubt its gonna replace much honestly.
To replace EVE, it'd have to be anything remotely like EVE - and besides being a SciFi themed game that doesn't seem to be the case at all.
To replace WoW, its gonna have to be good enough to attract not just single players but entire guilds/communities, and no game managed to o that before on a significant scale.
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Naran Eto
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Darveses I doubt its gonna replace much honestly.
This.
To be honest if SOE had actually put some effort into fixing SWG and releasing an expansion it very liekly wouldn't even replace swg.
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Tugrath Akers
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:53:00 -
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I may check it out when they offer some kind of buddy program that a friend offers me. No way I'm buying it retail.
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Merrik Talorra
Northstar Cabal Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus I am exceedingly hopeful that TOR will replace Warcraft for me in the genre they both compete in.
As for EVE, why would I replace an apple with an orange?
I've never played WoW, so SWTOR will be a new gaming experience for me.
It will not replace EVE though.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:10:00 -
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Affect EVE significantly? Definately not. Will it have a noticable effect? I don't belive it will. Will I play it? Yes. Do I believe it will be a good/successful game? No. -
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dgastuffz
Caldari Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:11:00 -
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yes well i will play it
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URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: URDEAD2ME on 27/07/2011 16:13:51 i wa sin the beta for the swtor and tbh i found it boring as hell the grind to lvl up is so boring you get most your powers by lvl 15 after that its a grind and each level you get a upgrade by say 1 or 2% for the power you already got and tbh the leveling is slow even when you do it in a good group . i found all the classes to be very boring jedi sounds awesome but was boring as hell. the bounty hunter is bad so is the smuggler the trooper only one that was fun and that got boring after the second day of the beta .
try it by all means but i know i wont be playing it when it comes out true it was abeta but the game was all but finished so they said.
oh and the 3rd person in space flight pvp and pve part of the game is ok but rather clunky and well the objectives are not all that clear.
as much as people ***** about eve after playing swtor and then coming back to eve i fell in love with eve all over again . |

Tosser Galore
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:13:00 -
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Don't even begin to compare a theme park non sandbox game with the niche spreadsheet madness that is eve.
As for losing subs. Yeah the herd will flock to theme park crap, but the niche will remain.
Not planning to play it since I've heard that the pvp is a joke.
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Nth Ares
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:15:00 -
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Active population probably dips a little every time a much-hyped MMO comes out, but that doesn't mean a lot of unsubs. I, like many, plan to just it a try and then decide.
It doesn't sound like it fills the same niche though.
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URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:15:00 -
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yup the pvp is terribad and well the graphics looked they was on my ps2 . |

De'Veldrin
Minmatar Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:20:00 -
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Doubtful I will even play it. tbh, MMO's as a genre don't interest me all that much. I like Eve specifically because of the idea behind the sandbox.
If they kill off the sandbox, I'll stop playing Eve.
--Vel
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:21:00 -
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Somewhat less than if there had been no SWG and SOE released SWG now.
Another sandbox, with multiple skill trees and specialisations as well as player controlled cities, lots of non-combat classes and content. Politics, non-consensual open-world PVP, war decs and a bounty system that worked. Elite classes and a death system that actually had meaning.
That might have an affect on Eve.
Wow clone #1358 with a simple re-skin and a couple more storyline moments. Based on a universe already marred by the destruction of its predecessor.
I don't think we have much to worry about. That anyone thinks this game will be better than SWG:EMU is beyond me.
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Aaron Aardvark
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:28:00 -
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ofc i will play it! it is Star Wars after all.
I cannot see it having much impact on Eve because they are totally different games. |

Langoss
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:34:00 -
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yes I will
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P

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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:37:00 -
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.07.27 16:59:00 -
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WoW in SW space? No thanks. Waiting for GW2.
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Victoria Wolfe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.27 17:06:00 -
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I doubt Old Republic will take too much of a bite out of EVE. The two games are just too dissimilar. However some who like Star Wars or sci-fi in general will migrate. Mostly those people who aren't solely committed to the sandbox.
Personally, I have already pre-ordered it. I'll try to get my money's worth out of the cost of the box. Whether or not I pay for another month beyond the free one will depend on how much I like the game.
It's going to be a busy end of the year for new titles, carrying over into the beginning of 2012. Old Republic, Rage, Skyrim, F1-2011, Mass Effect 3, Guild Wars 2, Dead Island, Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3 just to name a few. ___
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JAG Solex
GunStars
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Posted - 2011.07.27 18:07:00 -
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I came to EVE in 2005 after the NGE fiasco in SWG. I really liked SWG, but I don't see any of that in SWTOR. Regardless, EVE is deeper and more complex than either of those games so I'll be staying right here. Dispite my distaste for the all things Incarna, I am hoping it will bring in the people who enjoy the social aspect of MMO's and thus bring more money to CCP. My corp lives in wormholes so rarely am I affected by Incarna; but it would be nice to get more dev time on FiS EVE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [GNSTR] |
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coolzero
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.27 18:30:00 -
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ill be playing swtor..
but wont quit EVE for it just yet
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.07.27 18:33:00 -
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Impact WOW or other type of MMO's more than anything... Really tho if you're a Star wars fanboi your judgement has already been clouded, as $150 preorders for trinkets have been sold out, and there's mass anger if you're not an America, or live in the major EU nations.
Honestly assuming the launch goes rather smoothly (no bugs/crashes, good server launches), and they have a fair amount of maintenance after the fact. I would assume this could give WOW a run for its money. Perhaps not a WOW killer due to the Asian market not really that into Star wars as much, but defiantly gonna be second place.
I mean it's the same style game, same style gameplay, with updated graphics, voice, and the name star wars.
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Dalloway Jones
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.27 18:51:00 -
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It looks bad. I'm waiting for Guild Wars 2 personally but that is free to play so if I am still playing EVE then I won't really have to quit.
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.28 07:28:00 -
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Might put a dent on Eve-O subs, but they will be back. People always seem to quit WoW-like games after 3 months. Did you know Space combat is like roller coasters? Big turn off. Was hoping something like X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter flight sim. ----------------------------------- Peace through power!
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.28 17:08:00 -
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Yes it well....lots of people are looking forward to playing TOR. But it is up to EA to keep them.
It is also a very rollercoaster tpye mmo...
Personally I'm staying EvE but will keep an eye on it. ______ Hello WoW players. Look at your toon, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me, but if it wasn't simplistic pre scripted linear mono dimensional game you could look like me. I'm in a Paladin |

REiiGN15
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.28 22:39:00 -
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Game is going to last a month. You can hit the top level in the game at 2 weeks. It's like KOTOR3 with a long drawn-out story for each class you pick. Starts getting real repetitive though after a while and the side missions are a bunch of destroy/kill 30/40/50 of whatever or whoever.
Not having played a "rollercoaster" game like that before I was getting ****ed at grouping. You group up with others and they start getting *****y when you accidentally **** up the aggro. I picked the Sith Warrior Marauder. He just tears stuff up with 2 lightsabers. AoE are highly discouraged in groups and that takes fun away.
PvP was okay but its like EVE. You could do okay 1v1, but a lot of times it was a gangbang. Plus, the fact that no one used teamwork. There are planets with straight open PvP. On worlds that aren't that way, you can flag yourself for open PvP. ================================================= What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. |

Ayieka
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.29 03:45:00 -
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tbh, after playing the beta a bit, it just looks like wow with lightsabers. its a different niche than EVE.
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Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
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Posted - 2011.07.29 19:41:00 -
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I'm staying with EVE. Nothing as decent as it not exist on market or planned for release as far as i know. EVE perfectly fits the game i was looking for ages as it is now. Great sci-fi gameplay nice graphics excellent support and community. What else is there of that kind. Nothing really.
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Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 30/07/2011 17:13:15 A craptastic EA themepark MMO WoW-clone-in-space is much more likely to compete with WoW fans than EVE fans. My guess is that it will steal a % of the WoW population who like Star Wars, but the EVE population who like starwars are playing EVE for a deeper reason than "lol it's in space just like starwars." (i.e, the sandbox, the player driven economy, the open PVP)
Honestly, reading the ToR forums just makes me depressed. Uptight mods who make the EVE devs look like ponies, whiny kids who can't fathom a risky, pointful environment (one guy said "but people might commit suicide if there's item loss) and in general, people who make me want to rage into oblivion.
It's disappointing that BioWare decided to pursue that instead of KOTOR 3, (they cancelled it to pursue TOR) which was undoubtedly one of the best single player RPG series' I have ever played. (Okay, maybe rivaling Mass Effect.) -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.07.30 19:51:00 -
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TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.
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Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.08.01 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1 TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.
You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.
Somehow it just doesn¦t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).
MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.
Get. It. Already!
And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.
Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP¦s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.
So yeah, threat. _ .. darn |

Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.01 11:58:00 -
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I don't think it will have a significant impact on eve. Really, it's a completely different genre of game, the only real similarities the two have are that they are both space themed Sci-fi games. There certainly will be a bunch of eve players who it appeals to mostly sci-fi fans, our Star Wars Galaxies Refugees, and Star Wars fans.
SWTOR is very PvE based and doesn't have many sandbox elements at all, with instanced PvP/PvE encounters. ---
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.01 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1 TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.
You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.
Somehow it just doesn¦t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).
MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.
Get. It. Already!
And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.
Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP¦s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.
So yeah, threat.
People like you have been saying that for the last decade. Simple fact is STO failed to kill eve and infact EVE stole way more players from STO than the other way around. TOR is simply yet another over hyped MMO that does what WoW does and nothing of what eve does.
The volcanic nature of iceland is a bigger threat to this game than TOR will ever be.
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Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.08.01 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 13:57:17
Originally by: baltec1 The fearless bullheadedness of iceland Devs is a bigger threat to this game than TOR will ever be.
Corrected.
STO had the most effed up start of any MMO I heard of, but still persevered due to its rock-hard IP base. After the stupid Frenchies sold Cryptic they now have a firm financial backing and it¦s getting polished and upgraded constantly. Already surpassing ANYTHING EVE has to offer in PVE content. With a much more immersive space engine and now ground combat engine too(compared to LOLcarna).
TOR¦s IP leaves EVE¦s sandbox in the dust too. The WoW carbon copy will make sure all the EVE->WoW refugees will ignore EVE for a while longer.
My personal bet is on Guild Wars 2 breaking the camels back, if the Realm PvP and new cooperative PvE will hold what is promised.
The subs are in decline, no arguing about that. 2 years of neglecting the "sucking chest wounds" and forcing a ridiculous beta client techdemo on the playerbase will do that. It doesn¦t take much for a medium software house with such a small player base to go under. Especially if they expand worldwide too quick developing 3 MMOs simultaneously.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.01 14:08:00 -
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Oh please, I have played STO. The pve is just as bland as eves, there is only so many times you can do the same mission with a different skin before you see the pattern and the lack of any risk whatsoever sucks all of the joy out of it.
STO was never a threat because it does nothing eve does and neither will TOR.
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Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.08.01 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Oh please, I have played STO. The pve is just as bland as eves, STO was never a threat because it does nothing eve does and neither will TOR.
Let me guess, you played beta or during the first 6 moths and now you KNOW STO for evar! Well I played it too about 10 months or so ago and even then it was much more fun than any LVL4 ever invented by CCP. As for your risk dependency (aka reason to grind), just dial up the damn difficulty.
It¦s a threat simply because people get fed up with EVE much quicker, eventually they see the sandbox is full of turds and invest their monies somewhere else. _ .. darn |

Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2011.08.01 20:09:00 -
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Did recently take part in a 30 days or so test of SW:TOR. It feels like a ok singel player RPG game you play with other players doing their story arch online as well. Feels more like play Mass Effect than SW though.
After you play through your story arch, and reach level cap, not much to do other than roll another character and do another story arch imho. There is some group content, but not enough to make you keep subscribe for month after month.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.02 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother
Let me guess, you played beta or during the first 6 moths and now you KNOW STO for evar! Well I played it too about 10 months or so ago and even then it was much more fun than any LVL4 ever invented by CCP. As for your risk dependency (aka reason to grind), just dial up the damn difficulty.
It¦s a threat simply because people get fed up with EVE much quicker, eventually they see the sandbox is full of turds and invest their monies somewhere else.
I got a free week offer the other month and managed to finish everything they have added in the past year. I like the idea of player made missions but the market is dead, pve on any difficulty lacks any risk, space feels like you are flying around in a shoe box and the main point of star trek (exploring) just is not there. Oddly enough STO feels even more like a submarine game than eve.
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Dray
Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.02 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1 TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.
You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.
Somehow it just doesn¦t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).
MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.
Get. It. Already!
And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.
Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP¦s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.
So yeah, threat.
Looks like the dealer that Amy Winehouse used has a new customer.
To be a threat it has to be similar enough to pull players from Eve that are there for it's unique game play, it just looks like another WoW grindfest, where I would expect it to shine is in pve story and content with Bioware at the helm but after watching that E3 dev walkthru video it looks very average at best.
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.02 17:08:00 -
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The people who would leave EVE for that are the type of people who don't belong in EVE to begin with. The more people who do leave for it, the better off EVE is.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.08.08 02:05:00 -
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I started playing Star Trek Online three weeks ago. It is not really a direct competitor to EVE so it offers a different alternative. The space ship combat is quite enjoyable. The ground missions are ok but no where near as immersive as WOW like mmo's.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.08 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: Alpheias on 08/08/2011 04:02:28 No, because I doubt the game can survive all the hype that is buzzing around it for a game that isn't really bringing anything new. Voiced games are hardly new in itself, nor is morally ambiguous decisions or underlings.
I think it will be a game that a majority of people will play and then get bored of after a month or two.
edit: early morning and spelling
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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.08.08 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Alpheias Edited by: Alpheias on 08/08/2011 04:02:28 No, because I doubt the game can survive all the hype that is buzzing around it for a game that isn't really bringing anything new. Voiced games are hardly new in itself, nor is morally ambiguous decisions or underlings.
I think it will be a game that a majority of people will play and then get bored of after a month or two.
QFT
The extensive voice overs especially are a mistake in my opinion. Nice as they are, they don't add enough to really keep people, but it's plenty to send people away real quick once you start getting past the first three months.
As they add new content they won't be able to keep up that production value and more and more it will turn to text or worse... NPC's that repeat the same lines constantly and people will feel badly about progress and point out that the quality is going down. If they DO keep up that production value, it will annihilate their profits and productivity. No matter how you spin it, they're going to burn out fast, pull people in for a first expansion, and then die or go F2P+MT.
One straw among many on a weak old camel. My money says this game is a bad bet for long term.
I'm also on the GW2 bandwagon.
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