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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:01:20
@ OP
The balance of t1 cruisers is fine. One point you brought up was speed. They should be slow so you want to get to t2 or specific ships. I remember it took me 3 days to get into a tech 1 cruiser. It should perform as such.
/notsupported because it would negate the importance of getting into better ships.
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:06:45
 Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 31/07/2011 18:03:20
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 31/07/2011 18:01:46
Originally by: Decaped
@ OP
The balance of t1 cruisers is fine.
How exactly is the balance "fine" when half of them are utterly mediocre and the other half are largely obsoleted by BCs?
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They should be slow so you want to get to t2 or specific ships. I remember it took me 3 days to get into a tech 1 cruiser. It should perform as such.
This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard. It takes a couple of extra days, if that, to get into a Drake from a Caracal. Does that mean it should perform barely any better?
Conversely, it takes much longer to get into a HAC - does that mean it should be an unstoppable pwnmobile what wipes out any BC that gets in my way?
Even a 2 week old player has usually figured out the game doesn't work that way.
wow trolling your own thread huh.
yea hac's should wipe bc's. cause it takes more skills/resources to get there. maybe u want to play wow
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
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yea hac's should wipe bc's.
... Right, except they don't. They have this thing called different roles.
It seems you're only capable of thinking of ship balance in the very simplest terms, namely "bigger/pricier is better".
Once again, the game doesn't work this way, and I suggest you try to understand that.
do you see the should there? nerdrage much? cya
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:17:55
Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
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do you see the should there?
According to you, who seems to know about as much about Eve as the average WoW player. Go off and learn the basics before trying to debate balance changes.
NErrrRRRRddddrrrRRRRaaaaGGGGeeeEEE!!!!! RRRrrRRrAaaaAaRRrRWWwWww!!!!
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 31/07/2011 18:22:49
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NErrrRRRRddddrrrRRRRaaaaGGGGeeeEEE!!!!! RRRrrRRrAaaaAaRRrRWWwWww!!!!
Oh look, ad hominem attacks, last resort of truly stupid people who are way out of their deapth.
Anyway, anyone have anything to add to this proposal that isn't based on a 12 year old Counter-Strike fanboys idea of how Eve should work?
Maybe we should get our ships back too when we die, and NO PODDING IN LOW-SEC. All you are doing is saying we should water down this game so an aspect that you frequent will go better for you this will not benefit the game as a whole just what you do
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:45:53
Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:45:01
The ideal end result:
- Cruisers are lighter, faster, and more economically viable compared to battlecruisers and also have a greater number of viable classes.
- Battlecruisers are slightly toned down but maintain their role as anti-cruiser, and generally higher DPS/tank platforms for gangs where speed is less of an issue.
Thoughts?
are basically your points
1st: There are t2/navy/t3/etc.. cruisers that serve this purpose.
2nd: would change the mechanics of many aspects of the game to serve this little niche you are crying about
= fail sorry -1
edit:: Look at the big picture
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 19:01:07
Edited by: Decaped on 31/07/2011 18:59:52
Originally by: Decaped
Look at the big picture ex Think of how badass a Drake Speed tank would be!!! thats right it would be too badass
Think about this for just a min before you reply. I would be able to dps fit my drake to solo lvl 4's. That is not a correct game mechanic
as for your t1 comment. Well thats the benefit of flying ships better then t1's. I assume you are a poor pirate and are looking to exploit because your op makes no sense when you really think about it
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Posted - 2011.07.31 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Large Collidable Object
The main problem lies within T1 cruisers and BCs filling the same role, but for a marginal price difference and a few days of training, BCs are practically better at everything.
My proposal would be to give BCs a fitting bonus on BS class weapons (not just an increase in grid and CPU, 'cause that would be abused), so they can fit the small tier BS turrets which don't get used by BS anyway.
Get rid of some highslots, so the overall dps would stay the same.
Effects: They would still be a highly mobile, decently tanked DPS platform for low cost compared to a BS (reminder: solely losing the rigs on a BS costs more than the entire BC loss), but cruisers could get under their guns thanks to BS class weapons crappy tracking & sigresolution.
That way, both had their niche.
This makes sense
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Posted - 2011.07.31 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 31/07/2011 19:22:03
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Look at the big picture ex Think of how badass a Drake Speed tank would be!!! thats right it would be too badass
Please point out where exactly I suggested enabling Drakes to speed tank? Because if I did that was one hell of a typo.
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I assume you are a poor pirate and are looking to exploit because your op makes no sense when you really think about it
Oh look, more strawman arguments.
Originally by: Large Collidable Object
Interesting ideas
I had the idea a while ago of putting a tracking penalty on BCs. Similar effect overall.
so all i see you doing here is twisting around what people are saying for your benefit. gg forum troll gg
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Posted - 2011.07.31 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 31/07/2011 19:22:03
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Look at the big picture ex Think of how badass a Drake Speed tank would be!!! thats right it would be too badass
Please point out where exactly I suggested enabling Drakes to speed tank? Because if I did that was one hell of a typo.
prestidigitation
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