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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void Oh, and I would really like you guys to present a fairer picture on your killboard. I don't mean to flame here - this is meant as constructive criticism.
Example: Tier2 BS counts as 100 million isk - reduce this to 30 million (insurance loss).
Counter-Example: Inty's count as 2million isk - bump this UP to at least 7 million (avg).
Also, HAC's are a big loss - worth about 60-80 million? I'm unsure, maybe someone else can suggest a fair value. Also these figures don't take mods into account. Guys, this shouldn't be a big deal to fix since you are just changing hardcoded constants in the software.
If you make these changes you will STILL be ahead of us. I'm not trying to steal your thunder. But the picture won't look as rosy....
Our points system is the same as the one that BoB use, along with everyone else using killboard.net. Eve-kills.com uses a different system, but still one that assigns more points to a Tier 1 BS loss than a HAC loss. Honestly, none of the systems are perfect, but what can we do? It would be great if the community as a whole could come up with a standardised points system for all the boards to use. Maybe a new thread is in order? ----------------------------------------
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Julien Derida on 28/02/2005 15:59:17
Originally by: Balistic Void Julien - so what? Does that mean we DIDN'T kill 39 bs? You mercs are a mere distraction - we are more concerned with the huge blobs SE and XF are sending at us (trying to clog our guns with wreckage).
No, of course it doesn't mean you didn't kill 39 BS. My point is that you can't use the fact that XETIC/SE have taken those kinds of losses to say that the we, the Mercenary Coaltion, are taking heavy losses(as the original post I responded to seemed to claim). We are entirely seperate to XETIC/SE, and very rarely even fight alongside them.
We have no agenda here. We are not trying to destroy FOE. We are simply killing your ships. If you think we are a 'distraction' then we are doing our job. That's why people are willing to pay very large amounts of ISK to set us on their enemies. ----------------------------------------
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.02.28 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 28/02/2005 15:57:26
Originally by: Balistic Void we are more concerned with the huge blobs SE and XF are sending at us (trying to clog our guns with wreckage).
that was funny
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Eleese
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Eleese on 28/02/2005 16:13:57
Quote: Eleese: If your not getting shot at by Xetic, you are in the same grid as Xetic and you are firing at the same people as Xetic I have to tell you that you are one force in everyone elseÆs eyes. Whether you choose to communicate with each other is your choice. Let me just show you with numbers what I mean:
Xetic/SE/mercenaries VS FoE
Xetic have 5 BS and 2 frigates in the fight, SE have 3 BS and 3 frigates in the fight, Merc have 2 BS and 5 frigates in the fight,
FoE have 10 BS and 10 frigates in the fight.
Overall result- FoE kills 6 battleships and 5 frigates Other force kills 5 battleships and 5 frigates.
The mercenaries lose 1 BS but take part in killing all 5, On your killboards it would be a victory when it in actual fact it was not. All I suggested was that if possible any major battles where you worked together with Xetic/SE you post all kills/losses.
Actually thats is a victory for us if by takes part in 5 kills you mean we are the ones who did majority of the kill. (edit just to clarify what i mean by majority eg: 10 guys on kill mail 8 or 9 are MC, 1 or 2 others peeps) We are neutral and dont care if xetic loses 50bs's doesnt affect us.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:14:00 -
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Noone inferred that MC lost 39 bs - you guys just have comprehension difficulties. The question was asked as to what we thought constituted heavy damage, and I replied that the destruction of 39 bs constituted heavy damage. Those 39 belonged to NSA/SE and XF.
It's very difficult to get stats from your killboard, for example if I want to count your HAC losses I have to do it manually. Almost seems like it was designed that way.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void It's very difficult to get stats from your killboard, for example if I want to count your HAC losses I have to do it manually. Almost seems like it was designed that way.
It takes 3 clicks and a drop-down to get this information.
Jules & Eleese: give up, guys. -
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Heliodor Mordureau
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: C4w3
Calgary ROCKS
Calgary?
/emote keeps an eye out for a I break for no one bumper sticker...
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Look mate, if it's smack you want then I'll start sending Rohann into your Alliance chat everyday for a week.
-DB Preacher
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:35:00 -
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Seleene - where did you get that magical screen from? It's not at all clear where the 3 clicks+dropdown are.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nagilam PS. Last night some heavy damage was dealt out to these 'enemies' of FOE...Mercs hired to attack us...bah..just keep bringing it on....i enjoy shooting you.
This is the quote I was referring to Ballistic. The poor grammar makes what he is trying to say slightly unclear, but it certainly seems to be directed at us rather than XETIC/SE.
Originally by: Ballistic Void
It's very difficult to get stats from your killboard, for example if I want to count your HAC losses I have to do it manually. Almost seems like it was designed that way.
The page you want is here. You still have to do a bit of counting. Not the most intuitive admittedly, but we didn't design the killboard. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |
Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:47:00 -
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KK now that I know the magical page exists can you tell me how to access it please? I'm still looking at your killboard and scratching my head!
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Foyle on 28/02/2005 16:58:22
F-E held this territory long before FOE was created, I am not clear on the time frame, but It was established long before.
FOE has ex-ca corps in it, and all corps in the alliance are treated as FOE, not as an ôex-ca corpÆs.ö
All of the battles we have engaged in have been done in an honorable way. In addition, so far the coalition has fought that way, and so has Xetic.
At this point we do not care who hired the mercÆs they brought us targets and we will keep fighting them for as long as they are there.
Seleene should get one kick ass movie out of it
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:54:00 -
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Click Daily Stats, then select "Detail by type" from the drop down and then pick the ship you want the stats for is how I got it.... ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Andromedus on 28/02/2005 16:58:43
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:57:00 -
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Click on FOE tab -> Go to Daily section -> Change drop-down menu to 'Assets lost by type' -> Voila!
Somewhat convoluted I know, but as I said we didn't design it. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |
Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:59:00 -
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Thanks.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 28/02/2005 16:49:41
F-E held this territory long before FOE was created, I am not clear on the time frame, but It was established long before.
FOE has ex-ca corps in it, and all corps in the alliance are treated as FOE, not as an ôex-ca corpÆs.ö
All of the battles we have engaged in have been done in an honorable way. In addition, so far the coalition has fought that way, and so has Xetic.
At this point we do not care who hired the mercÆs they brought us targets and we will keep fighting them for as long as they are there.
Seleene should get once kick ass movie out of it
Nice way to sum things up, good post! :D. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void KK now that I know the magical page exists can you tell me how to access it please? I'm still looking at your killboard and scratching my head!
Step away from your Pipe
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
5) With the launch of Xetic Technologies we found that demand for many T2 products is not that great. We have such a massive overstock of looted T2 items from the CA war we still need to sell. Once again in order to increase demand a war was arranged.
Picking up your allies cans and not giving stuff back is bad karma. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |
Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:24:00 -
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If the T2 demand is so great now then maybe you should revise your policy of dropping BPOs to your enemies.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 28/02/2005 16:58:22
F-E held this territory long before FOE was created, I am not clear on the time frame, but It was established long before.
FOE has ex-ca corps in it, and all corps in the alliance are treated as FOE, not as an ôex-ca corpÆs.ö
All of the battles we have engaged in have been done in an honorable way. In addition, so far the coalition has fought that way, and so has Xetic.
At this point we do not care who hired the mercÆs they brought us targets and we will keep fighting them for as long as they are there.
Seleene should get one kick ass movie out of it
GO HUN!!
erm .. anyways respect to all those fighting the battles have been fierce and frequent, attacks relentless.. and local chat excellent .. some1 needs to take a broom to the forums tho ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 28/02/2005 16:58:22
F-E held this territory long before FOE was created, I am not clear on the time frame, but It was established long before.
FOE has ex-ca corps in it, and all corps in the alliance are treated as FOE, not as an ôex-ca corpÆs.ö
All of the battles we have engaged in have been done in an honorable way. In addition, so far the coalition has fought that way, and so has Xetic.
At this point we do not care who hired the mercÆs they brought us targets and we will keep fighting them for as long as they are there.
Seleene should get one kick ass movie out of it
GO HUN!!
erm .. anyways respect to all those fighting the battles have been fierce and frequent, attacks relentless.. and local chat excellent .. some1 needs to take a broom to the forums tho
Parm, your hired!! get the smack under control please
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:49:00 -
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/me gets swept under the carpet...
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:52:00 -
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I would like to say that my colleges and I that are ex M3G4, Biomass Cartel and Now currently Forsaken-Empire have been in this region almost since day 1, we at some point have had a major conflict with almost every alliance in eve, and we are still here.
So war away and give us something to shoot at, when the dust settles, and your bored/run out of money to pay for the Mercs, we will still be here in our space, eagerly awaiting the next fight.
I also fail to see the point of your hostilities towards FoE, perhaps you though you could just waltz up into our space with your two alliances and merc alliance and trample us to dust, but its not as easy as you had thought is it?
Everyone always has this conception that F-E and now FoE are nothing but an unorganized bunch of Gate Gankers and Half witted pirates.
From the fights I can remember in my head this is probably over the seventh time we have proved everybody wrong.
Respect to Seleene and the mercs, we will undoubtedly see you on the battlefield.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:55:00 -
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OK. Back to Topic !
We only defend our friends.
No smack talk pls.
Let¦s have a nice combat if we see us on the Battlefield.
Greetz
----------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.02.28 19:12:00 -
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a bad decision for the new emperor though :)
My vids and random stuff |
Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.02.28 19:56:00 -
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to add my useless 2 cents cos i like seeing my sig DESIGNED BY CHARITY REGARD on the forums
working with anti FOE forces is done on the spur, there is no blueprint for the destruction of FOE, certainly our aim is to kill your guys, same as yours is to kill us (the annoyance)
last night i was with mass...the other night with xetic, if they lose ships it doesnt bother me, if we lose ships they wont give a rats ass
respect to corp1 dude for making a cool post
/me slaps eye and jin
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bsspewer
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Posted - 2005.02.28 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: bsspewer on 28/02/2005 20:17:26
Originally by: Velsharoon
respect to corp1 dude for making a cool post
was that directed towards me?
I feel so honored
edit: after reading the past few pages i've missed i realize bobbeh made a good post explaining the same thoughts i had.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.02.28 20:18:00 -
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well u made a "reasonable" post but it didnt really sort anything out just did the age old reaction of who cares!
well fact is we care, and the forums are an extension of the game so hence hijacking this post
not that your post is invalid, hell i dont care whoim shooting however misconceptions about the coalition means misconceptions about FRICk and in turn me and my fellow pirates (yes poor english but im to lazy to edit, yet to idiotic to write out this pointless explantion. i need alcohol)
eh it was directed at bobbeh. look a squirrel hug it.
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Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.02.28 21:24:00 -
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Eyeshadow .. read the whole post before flaunting your big mouth ya tosser. I came out on my own cause thts what i wanted... I have a few billion isk burning a while in my pocket .. I do what I feel like with it. Idiot. I am not complaining that 20 of you "jumped" me... am just saying thts how many of you guys it takes to take out 1 man. I posted how i ravaged joshua cause he came here running his carebear mouth again. As always ... seems hes never really gotten along with anyone... Hes a traiter who even turns on longtime friend.... Con'mal ring a bell Joshua?
Sharks with frickin laser beams ... are almost as comical on the battlefield as their name would suggest ..
Go on eve-kills.com and see how many of you have been utterly destroyed by our might F.O.E
Morons.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.28 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks Eyeshadow .. read the whole post before flaunting your big mouth ya tosser. I came out on my own cause thts what i wanted... I have a few billion isk burning a while in my pocket .. I do what I feel like with it. Idiot. I am not complaining that 20 of you "jumped" me... am just saying thts how many of you guys it takes to take out 1 man. I posted how i ravaged joshua cause he came here running his carebear mouth again. As always ... seems hes never really gotten along with anyone... Hes a traiter who even turns on longtime friend.... Con'mal ring a bell Joshua?
Sharks with frickin laser beams ... are almost as comical on the battlefield as their name would suggest ..
Go on eve-kills.com and see how many of you have been utterly destroyed by our might F.O.E
Morons.
Logging, flaming, lies. You really are a PR disaster for FOE.
I have a lot of respect for many of FOE, especially those who have posted reasonably on this thread. I really don't understand why they would put up with the likes of you. ----------------------------------------
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