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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.08.01 05:36:00 -
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Exhibit A : "This killmail does not exist" http://the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2911
Well it certainly did a few hours ago and had a comment from the person that lost their Ark to the effect of "This loss has been petitioned as a disconnect on warping to the station somehow landed me 120km from station on relogging."
In reality they had screwed up, loggoffski'd and then without bothering to scout for hostiles, relogged the Ark straight into the hands of the hostiles. This was less than 30 minutes after pulling the log off.
Exhibit B : API Verified lossmail http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10257594
Pretty poor that they have to try and hide this from their statistics. I guess ISK wars are more important than integrity 
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Darius III
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 06:10:00 -
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LOLS How weak they are. Burying the truth never works. Maybe I will Awox them :D |

GambbiT
Gallente ROMANIA Renegades ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.08.01 07:31:00 -
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WOW JUST WOW
HAPPY TROLL !!!!!!
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LithiumX
Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.01 14:33:00 -
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Are you really a lady
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.01 16:11:00 -
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Its funny when people think they can hide and cover up losses in 2011 with all the api linked kill-boards, and its even more funny that people actually get embarrassed by losing a spaceship in this internet spaceship game. ---
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Joe D'Trader
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.01 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Exhibit A : "This killmail does not exist" http://the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2911
Well it certainly did a few hours ago and had a comment from the person that lost their Ark to the effect of "This loss has been petitioned as a disconnect on warping to the station somehow landed me 120km from station on relogging."
In reality they had screwed up, loggoffski'd and then without bothering to scout for hostiles, relogged the Ark straight into the hands of the hostiles. This was less than 30 minutes after pulling the log off.
Exhibit B : API Verified lossmail http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10257594
Pretty poor that they have to try and hide this from their statistics. I guess ISK wars are more important than integrity 
But the most important question is did you salvage it?
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Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.08.01 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Joe D'Trader
Originally by: Lady Spank Exhibit A : "This killmail does not exist" http://the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2911
Well it certainly did a few hours ago and had a comment from the person that lost their Ark to the effect of "This loss has been petitioned as a disconnect on warping to the station somehow landed me 120km from station on relogging."
In reality they had screwed up, loggoffski'd and then without bothering to scout for hostiles, relogged the Ark straight into the hands of the hostiles. This was less than 30 minutes after pulling the log off.
Exhibit B : API Verified lossmail http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10257594
Pretty poor that they have to try and hide this from their statistics. I guess ISK wars are more important than integrity 
But the most important question is did you salvage it?
How much salvage does a tech 2 cap ship give of all the blue stuff?
And loot, quite a bit tech 2.
Just because they petition it to ccp doesn't mean they will get squat. Time will tell I guess if the kill happened or not.
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Misanth
Amarr RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia Its funny when people think they can hide and cover up losses in 2011 with all the api linked kill-boards, and its even more funny that people actually get embarrassed by losing a spaceship in this internet spaceship game.
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Kunnilar
Amarr The Zerglings The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 22:48:00 -
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On behalf of TF
No attempt to 'Hide our losses' , takes place. Please check battle clinic, or an 'api linked KB' as everyone does if you want to have an accurate state of losses.
This killboard is our Alliance killboard and used by myself and others to keep tabs on how we are currently doing in terms of progress of our members, without wading through ****** ****. Being it is my killboard, I shall use it how I want , and have never made any indication it is '100% true' , on top of that, I really dont care what you think about it. If it makes you feel like more a man for 10 minutes, then please continue to troll. I have said my 2 cents.
That is all.
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Joe D'Trader
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kunnilar Edited by: Kunnilar on 01/08/2011 22:59:31 On behalf of TF
No attempt to 'Hide our losses' , takes place. Please check battle clinic, or an 'api linked KB' as everyone does if you want to have an accurate state of losses.
This killboard is our Alliance killboard and used by myself and others to keep tabs on how we are currently doing in terms of progress of our members, without wading through ****** ****. Being it is my killboard, I shall use it how I want , and have never made any indication it is '100% true' , on top of that, I really dont care what you think about it. If it makes you feel like more a man for 10 minutes, then please continue to troll. Good to see you Midgets are still watching us 24/7 though, your still not getting in :P I have said my 2 cents.
That is all.
Wait, so your killboard doesn't have your loses? You consider losses useless on a killboard?
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Kunnilar
Amarr The Zerglings The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joe D'Trader
Originally by: Kunnilar Edited by: Kunnilar on 01/08/2011 22:59:31 On behalf of TF
No attempt to 'Hide our losses' , takes place. Please check battle clinic, or an 'api linked KB' as everyone does if you want to have an accurate state of losses.
This killboard is our Alliance killboard and used by myself and others to keep tabs on how we are currently doing in terms of progress of our members, without wading through ****** ****. Being it is my killboard, I shall use it how I want , and have never made any indication it is '100% true' , on top of that, I really dont care what you think about it. If it makes you feel like more a man for 10 minutes, then please continue to troll. Good to see you Midgets are still watching us 24/7 though, your still not getting in :P I have said my 2 cents.
That is all.
Wait, so your killboard doesn't have your loses? You consider losses useless on a killboard?
I must be quite odd when I dont consider a random JF loss making it harder for me to see how our combat base is progressing. Go figure
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Misanth
Amarr RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:34:00 -
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Kunnilar, as ex-corpmate I'll be nice for once, and give you a hot tip; you'd better stay away from this thread. Spank, go easy on him.  -
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Shadow Ballet
Gallente Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Shadow Ballet on 01/08/2011 23:38:26 I find it odd that you would try and hide losses on a public killboard and claim it is to improve combat evaluation.
Furthermore not only did you delete that loss but also the same characters Legion loss, which went down in combat.
Would you care to explain how that assists in your battle evaluations?
EDIT: This one
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Kunnilar
Amarr The Zerglings The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kunnilar on 02/08/2011 00:13:21
Originally by: Shadow Ballet Edited by: Shadow Ballet on 01/08/2011 23:42:45 I find it odd that you would try and hide losses on a public killboard and claim it is to improve combat evaluation.
Furthermore not only did you delete that loss but also the same characters Legion loss, which went down in combat.
Would you care to explain how that assists in your battle evaluations?
EDIT: This one, compared to your combat record for Bella Fea. I hear skewed stats are the best stats.
No I cannot, I have to thank you for bringing this one to my attention, I am unaware of how it went missing, but it should be posted and will now be. Even trolls are sometimes usefull For your viewing pleasure: http://www.the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3036
To the ex corpmate ... your ex for a reason.
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Misanth
Amarr RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kunnilar Edited by: Kunnilar on 02/08/2011 00:13:21
Originally by: Shadow Ballet Edited by: Shadow Ballet on 01/08/2011 23:42:45 I find it odd that you would try and hide losses on a public killboard and claim it is to improve combat evaluation.
Furthermore not only did you delete that loss but also the same characters Legion loss, which went down in combat.
Would you care to explain how that assists in your battle evaluations?
EDIT: This one, compared to your combat record for Bella Fea. I hear skewed stats are the best stats.
No I cannot, I have to thank you for bringing this one to my attention, I am unaware of how it went missing, but it should be posted and will now be. Even trolls are sometimes usefull For your viewing pleasure: http://www.the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3036
To the ex corpmate ... your ex for a reason.
Thought you deleted your character after a couple of emo-rages and repeated unscouted industrial losses (to well known sabre pilots), not because there was something wrong with us. Now you hurt my feelings. 
Nice of the GM's to restore your char after biomass tho. I still wub you. <3 -
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Imigo Montoya
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.02 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joe D'Trader But the most important question is did you salvage it?
I disagree - the most important question is: Who really cares?
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Joe D'Trader
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.02 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kunnilar Edited by: Kunnilar on 02/08/2011 00:13:21
Originally by: Shadow Ballet Edited by: Shadow Ballet on 01/08/2011 23:42:45 I find it odd that you would try and hide losses on a public killboard and claim it is to improve combat evaluation.
Furthermore not only did you delete that loss but also the same characters Legion loss, which went down in combat.
Would you care to explain how that assists in your battle evaluations?
EDIT: This one, compared to your combat record for Bella Fea. I hear skewed stats are the best stats.
No I cannot, I have to thank you for bringing this one to my attention, I am unaware of how it went missing, but it should be posted and will now be. Even trolls are sometimes usefull For your viewing pleasure: http://www.the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3036
To the ex corpmate ... your ex for a reason.
Your Ex also gave you some good advise. You have no justifiable reason to separate losses into combat and non combat losses. A killboard shows kills & loses. There is no such thing as non combat losses other than self destructing and well...
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Kunnilar
Amarr The Zerglings The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:22:00 -
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Thanks Joe
I neither want to justify it, or listen to others say how our killboard should act or be. Please refer to eve kills in future if you are checking us out, as I am sure most people do.
I'm done here
Cheers for the lulz Lady and Midgets
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Vasentic
Gallente Lyonesse. The Remnant Legion
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Posted - 2011.08.03 01:06:00 -
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I also don't care what people think but still have a need to post justifications and WHELP SPIN.
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family Corcoran State
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:39:00 -
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Lots of people don't post losses. Remember, if you're a loser in real life, then Eve is where you come to redeem yourself. How are you going to act all hardcore around school/church/work if there's a 5 bill stain on your Virtualpeen'ometer?
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Velocity Prime
Caldari The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.08.03 12:14:00 -
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The Forsaken... Still being terrible at EVE, I see.
The funny part is that you're serious buisness enough to hide your losses because they make you look bad.
Always knew you were bad. Thanks for not disappointing.
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Pinky Denmark
Caldari The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.08.03 12:36:00 -
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It's their killboard - let them do with it how they like and feel happy your own killboard isn't an untrustworthy fake like theirs. -
I'm a nice guy!! But plz hook me up with some pew pew... |

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.08.03 20:28:00 -
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I would say the loss is pretty important combat wise. People with jump freighters can pvp (if you are going to train up to cap ships, and jump skills why not carrier too). People with freighters also supply the rest of the corp or alliance. Do you all position yourselves to not protect any important assets or what?
Basically, the isk lost on a JF alone not including what is inside. Is equivalent to 3 combat fit carriers, 25 alpha fit male-storms (without insurance), or 4-5 of those fancy billion isk tech 3 pvp ships.
Have to think about the big picture, a loss like that defiantly hinders future deployments but not seeing that, that could explain why your organization is not more relevant.
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Morganta
Minmatar Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.08.03 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kunnilar Thanks Joe
I neither want to justify it, or listen to others say how our killboard should act or be. Please refer to eve kills in future if you are checking us out, as I am sure most people do.
I'm done here
Cheers for the lulz Lady and Midgets
I'm mad that I missed out on this kill, damn life
anyhow as far as our being able to go in and out of IOAB or the pipe that you and your moon warrior buddies have been camping ever since the mercs left really has nothing to do with your presence in either location.
when we ran into you guys in iirg the other day we were looking for you, not safe passage, however we were not looking for the 25 of you that we found as our poor little 3 BCs, Scorp, and frig could not take on more than 15 of you at once.
That said we were really appreciative of the luls when you all chased after us like mad dogs and ran headfirst into that Raven Fed fleet. I swear I never seen local expand and contract so quickly.
so for your brand of fleet pvp its 25 v. 5 = bring it on! 25 v. 12 = RUN FORREST, RUN!
sound about right?
don't worry, you guys are still primary for the Midget Mafia, and we'll be down to remind you sooner or later but hey feel free to keep not jumping your jump freighters and do boneheaded things like fly them through one of the hottest systems in syndicate in the meantime, we're pretty lazy and will always pass on avoidable travel.
you guys still have those undefended industry POSs out there? no matter, if you miss us we'll send you an email or 2 by shooting some bombs at them 
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danile666
Gallente Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.08.03 23:02:00 -
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Ah forsaken, how I adore you. I look forward to the next time you hit the panic button and warp something expensive to 100 and pull a logoffski.
Waiting no more than 30 minutes on the log on was great to.
Keep on doing what you do best, we truly appreciate it.
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Loki Master
Minmatar Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2011.08.04 02:50:00 -
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Lady spank didn't just post a thread only containing kill mail as the main content did she?
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danile666
Gallente Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.08.04 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Loki Master Lady spank didn't just post a thread only containing kill mail as the main content did she?
Nope she posted a thread containing the lack of a kill mail.
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danile666
Gallente Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.08.04 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kunnilar Edited by: Kunnilar on 02/08/2011 00:13:21
Originally by: Shadow Ballet Edited by: Shadow Ballet on 01/08/2011 23:42:45 I find it odd that you would try and hide losses on a public killboard and claim it is to improve combat evaluation.
Furthermore not only did you delete that loss but also the same characters Legion loss, which went down in combat.
Would you care to explain how that assists in your battle evaluations?
EDIT: This one, compared to your combat record for Bella Fea. I hear skewed stats are the best stats.
No I cannot, I have to thank you for bringing this one to my attention, I am unaware of how it went missing, but it should be posted and will now be. Even trolls are sometimes usefull For your viewing pleasure: http://www.the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3036
To the ex corpmate ... your ex for a reason.
I also find it interesting that that character had tons of kills and losses, until the other day when everything went missing. There was not any oversight it was all deleted.
But whatever we do all know that 3rd party api verified sources will show better information than the Forsakens KB. I guess your KB status reflects your play style: Terrible
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CCP Navigator
Minmatar C C P C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2011.08.04 11:13:00 -
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Thread locked. Threads about killmails are not part of C&P.
Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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