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tullebukk	Posted - 2005.02.26 23:21:00 - [1] moved from Missions - Sherkaner Was passing by Scolluzer at this time, when i saw Naal Morno killing and looting rats that was not belonging to him. It have been said before that the Blockade mission should be moved, and this just proves it again. Watch out for this scumbag of a thief in the future
Bryanna Rivellan	Posted - 2005.02.27 00:39:00 - [2] you are funny.
Camaro	Posted - 2005.02.27 01:25:00 - [3] Edited by: Camaro on 27/02/2005 01:25:26 Hmm. i think he is funny too. why can people not mind their own crap
Nerissa	Posted - 2005.02.27 01:30:00 - [4] who cares?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.02.27 09:54:00 - [5] Move to low sec space? --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
MinorFreak	Posted - 2005.02.27 10:00:00 - [6] ooooooo what he steal? basic damage control? ohhhhhh n0o0o0os!!!111 ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup)
Nerissa	Posted - 2005.02.27 10:50:00 - [7] Edited by: Nerissa on 27/02/2005 10:51:28 risk versus reward, hum risk: rats will be killed by other players, loot will be looted, sounds all good to me, quit whining
Calio	Posted - 2005.02.27 11:09:00 - [8] Originally by: MinorFreak ooooooo what he steal? basic damage control? ohhhhhh n0o0o0os!!!111 Remember that comment the next time a scumbag like what's-his-name is camping the gate you have your mission at and a raid leader spawns, and he pops the raid leader's can before you can get to it. "Those people who think they know everything are a real annoyance to those of us who do" (Issac Assimov)
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.02.27 11:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Calio Originally by: MinorFreak ooooooo what he steal? basic damage control? ohhhhhh n0o0o0os!!!111 Remember that comment the next time a scumbag like what's-his-name is camping the gate you have your mission at and a raid leader spawns, and he pops the raid leader's can before you can get to it. Simple solution; Move to Low Sec and pop the loot thief before he pops anything. The Sec status you will lose in minimal and easy to get back trough level 4 missions. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
tullebukk	Posted - 2005.02.27 11:26:00 - [10] The problem wasent him stealing the loot, but killing his rats. looked like lvl 4 battleships.
Saltire	Posted - 2005.02.27 12:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Simple solution; Move to Low Sec and pop the loot thief before he pops anything. The Sec status you will lose in minimal and easy to get back trough level 4 missions. This is a very good idea an id like to recommend Reblier as an Excellent location for such missions Pll there are friendly an helpfull. But if u dont wish to taste the hospitality that low sec systems can offer u then id point you towards the nice option Eve incorporated into the game a long time ago. WAR! Yes if u dont like ppl stealin your cans or killin your Rats.. War Dec them an see what kinda loot they drop instead. Have fun YALL
Calio	Posted - 2005.02.27 12:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Simple solution; Move to Low Sec and pop the loot thief before he pops anything. The Sec status you will lose in minimal and easy to get back trough level 4 missions. If you weren't so blinded by the desire to get everyone and their dog out into 0.0, you'd see that: 1) Anyone who engages in that kind of behavior would gank you while you were fighting the rat (since you have agro and they don't) - and don't tell me they wouldn't, cause it's happened to me too often in too many mmorpg's 2) This is a structural problem caused by poor design on CCP's part. Whether or not you can do a work-around by going into 0.0 or not is completely besides the point. "Those people who think they know everything are a real annoyance to those of us who do" (Issac Assimov)
Seto Mazzarotto	Posted - 2005.02.27 12:25:00 - [13] Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 27/02/2005 12:26:47 Originally by: Calio If you weren't so blinded by the desire to get everyone and their dog out into 0.0, you'd see that: 1) Anyone who engages in that kind of behavior would gank you while you were fighting the rat (since you have agro and they don't) - and don't tell me they wouldn't, cause it's happened to me too often in too many mmorpg's 2) This is a structural problem caused by poor design on CCP's part. Whether or not you can do a work-around by going into 0.0 or not is completely besides the point. There's a reason this expansion was called 'Exodus'. Such things as gankage and theft occur whether you want them to or not, it's all part of the thrill of the game. People need to rediscover what this game was designed to be before risk & reward became completely screwed with L4 kill missions. In this game's original concept, PvE was supposed to play a minimal role, not take center stage and balloon the economy out of control. And yes, it is poor design on CCP's part. L4 missions need to be revamped to work more towards this original concept... before inflation becomes any more out of hand than it is. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll.
Temi	Posted - 2005.02.27 22:31:00 - [14] i wish someone would come and kill my rats when i do the blockade mission, i seriously would not mind at all!!! :\ Spelling errors ahoy..
Matanga	Posted - 2005.02.28 13:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Seto Mazzarotto There's a reason this expansion was called 'Exodus'. Such things as gankage and theft occur whether you want them to or not, it's all part of the thrill of the game. People need to rediscover what this game was designed to be before risk & reward became completely screwed with L4 kill missions. In this game's original concept, PvE was supposed to play a minimal role, not take center stage and balloon the economy out of control. And yes, it is poor design on CCP's part. L4 missions need to be revamped to work more towards this original concept... before inflation becomes any more out of hand than it is. Come on! LvL4 are fine as they are, finally something to do in empire, make some money and have fun. They still require good skills (not any guy in a Raven can do them) and there's a risk, maybe not much, but there's a risk. Instead of nerfing Lvl 4 ask for CCP to improve the reward factor of 0.0 then you'll get your "Exodus" "ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö George Orwell ô1984ö
Roshan longshot	Posted - 2005.02.28 16:15:00 - [16] Better yet send out the concord ghank squads, or some nasty Gallente battle squad to clean out 0.0 and some of the carebears will come to 0.0... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box and from this site.
Bawldeux IV	Posted - 2005.02.28 16:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Matanga Originally by: Seto Mazzarotto There's a reason this expansion was called 'Exodus'. Such things as gankage and theft occur whether you want them to or not, it's all part of the thrill of the game. People need to rediscover what this game was designed to be before risk & reward became completely screwed with L4 kill missions. In this game's original concept, PvE was supposed to play a minimal role, not take center stage and balloon the economy out of control. And yes, it is poor design on CCP's part. L4 missions need to be revamped to work more towards this original concept... before inflation becomes any more out of hand than it is. Come on! LvL4 are fine as they are, finally something to do in empire, make some money and have fun. They still require good skills (not any guy in a Raven can do them) and there's a risk, maybe not much, but there's a risk. Instead of nerfing Lvl 4 ask for CCP to improve the reward factor of 0.0 then you'll get your "Exodus" The base of your idea is very sound. Increase the rewards in 0.0 space and people WILL go there. Increase the risk along with it, and people will stay in empire. 0.0 space has the additional risk imposed by players, so CCP would not have to touch the risk factor at all! ::::::::::::::::::::::::: >>...wanna cookie?<< :::::::::::::::::::::::::
Tophereon	Posted - 2005.02.28 16:45:00 - [18] I think you'll find that is Naal a very honest player. Added to that, I know he sure doesn't need to steal from anyone! Toph.
flummox	Posted - 2005.02.28 20:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Calio Originally by: MinorFreak ooooooo what he steal? basic damage control? ohhhhhh n0o0o0os!!!111 Remember that comment the next time a scumbag like what's-his-name is camping the gate you have your mission at and a raid leader spawns, and he pops the raid leader's can before you can get to it. Simple solution; Move to Low Sec and pop the loot thief before he pops anything. The Sec status you will lose in minimal and easy to get back trough level 4 missions. how does this fix or even remotely address the issue? the problem is predictable mission spawn points. nothing else. mission-stealing will happen in any security as long as there is a set place for a mission to spawn, such as 'at stargate'. there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on...
Naal Morno	Posted - 2005.02.28 21:44:00 - [20] Simple: I think you're blowing it our of proportions, but apologies for intervening in your mission. I noticed couple of alone BSes and was in Zealot... So I warped in and started poking one, before I noticed it died... Sorry for that... Next thing I notice is him cancelling his mission and starting calling me names. No reason to be calling me thief etc as you should know better rats drop nothing in empire agent missions. I will escrow you some stuff I got from my own mission, one basci RCU and 100 AM M ammo... Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.

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