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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.01 22:57:00 -
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I don't know how often this topic stands under discussions but EVE has a big Bug. This Bug is the War-System which allows all Cops./Alliances to force for War at High-Sec. This is very stupied and bad vor all High-Sec PVE-Players.
So my Question is, for what we need High-Sec with this stupid War-System? It destroys many Corps./Alliances and decrease the game play. Is the game play to low, the Gmaers would leav the Game.
So I've think about this topic and have the following Ideas for PVP and for the stupied War-System:
At first, no Corp. can force for War with out any reason. The reason "politic" will no longer accepted becasue it's a standart reason so there must be mor than simple "politic". Than the Corp. can accept or not accept the War if they're on High-Sec (the Headquarters of the Corp. must be on a High-Sec Sys).
Secound Idea is, that War can be on High-Sec, but only at 0.5 to 0.6/0.7 otherwise we don't need High-Sec for EVE and all can go into Low-Sec. That means, that 0.7/0.8 to 1.0 are free PVP zone (no PVP, no War).
The last Idea which I've is, that only Alliances can force for War other Alliances; but not a single Corp. can force for War another single Corp. (this rule is for High-Sec).
These are all my Ideas. You can add some more Ideas if You want our discuss the other Ideas. These Ideas should be make the High-Sec for PVE-Players better because not all Players like PVP. Additional there are many PVE/Mining Corps. on High-Sec because they won't any PVP (e. g. War) otherwise thes Players wher on Low-Sec.
I hope, that the PVE/Mining - Players like my Ideas. You can also talk about this topic in-Game at the Chatchanel: pvp-on-high_sec (please read the Channels MOTD-Line for the Rules).
So long,
Chaos2341
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:16:00 -
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If CCP think about PVP than it can be, that many Players leaf EVE. That EVE should be an PVP based Game? No! Otherwise we don't need a High-Sec - for what? To wait for War?
CCP should switch the course to more PVE on High-Sec or CCP should disable the High-Sec. On my Eyes EVE isn't a PVP-Game. It's a PVE/Mining - Game with missions and enough Low-Sec for PVP.
How many Players are angry because they lost there Ship on War or at Mining? Ok, that no Player is safe on EVE is true. But don't forgett CONCORD which attacks You, if You attack a normal Player on High-Sec out of War.
I've written my Ideas at the first post and this wouldn't change because PVP on High-Sec is stupied (My opinion).
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Malken ccp needs to fix the wardec system so you arent immune to wardecs. if you cant figure out how to do it then theres always the npc corps for you
Well, if this is the Way to get safe for War, then we don't need a Corp./Alliance-System.
(Sorry for dubleposte)
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:26:00 -
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Why?
I don't use PVP to get ISK. I only make my Mission, my PI and my Mining alone ore with the Corp.-Members in my Corp. (I'm not the CEO from this Corp.!)
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:47:00 -
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@zus:
The Victory Condition sounds good. Is this option still under construction or on the game avalible? I don't have see or hear about it.
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@ShahFluffers:
You're right. I've not think about the marked.
Well, then the Wardec must be optimated like the Post from @zus. Single PVP is not War. That no Player is save in High-Sec I know. Hmmm ... it must be able to find a solution for this Topic.
It seems that a little bit PVP is required for the game. But at the moment ther is to many PVP on High-Sec. Thats the Problem which is to solve.
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cunane Jeran If anything we need MORE highsec PvP.
PvP is what keeps the market turning, without ships blowing up on a regular basis, the market would die, minerals would become worth about as much as my urine etc
So your idea is terrible. If anything it should be easier to attack people in highsec. (As well as low and nul of course)
I see - You don't have understand the situation. It's current to much PVP on High-Sec! We don't need more PVP on High-Sec. For PVP go to Low-Sec or to nul.
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:55:00 -
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@Andski:
Sry, but a litle smile must be because Your funny sentence on line 1.
Ok, that PVP on High-Sec is needed have I understand now. But it's to much jet. My Corp. have a War and many other Corps. too.
Singl-PVP is not the Problem but War on High-Sec is a Problem. Another Idea which I've is, that the Corp., which has have had a War can only get force into a new War after a "cool down time/deadline" like 1 Month (e. g.).
Otherwise a Corp. can be instand in War and this is not the sense of War. For me a War should solve a unsolved conflict between two or mor Corps./Alliances with a reason. But War without any reason is stupied and to expensiv if the aggressed still stands on Station.
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.02 01:34:00 -
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Thanks for Your Post.
The Problem is, that many Players can't PVP so they use PVE/Minig. On EVE is no Tutorial for real PVP on low or high. Well, I don't know anything of PVP only PVE/Mining. If there where an option to learn PVP directly, I would do it, if I can. But on EVE is no "PVP - School" so PVE is my only way.
Since EVE was deployed an shown on the Games Convention in my town, i liked the Game. I liked the Missions and the Miningotions. But PVP? I haven't seen so much PVP since my first time on EVE.
How are the old times? On the first officiel deployment there aren't so much PVP - Ok, I've had a break over 3 Years so many changes on EVE where done. On this time the PVP must be extended on EVE becaus on the beginning there where the High-Sec safer as know.
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:51:00 -
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There is a real discussion about this topic ^^.
But it doesn't change my opinion that PVP must be forced out from High-Sec or better - the war-dec-system must be forced out on High-Sec. If we want war, wie can go to low-sec or we can create PVP-Corps and than attack other pvp-corps. To attack indy/mining corps is for me stupid because these players ar to bad to play EVE while they don't attack an PVP-Corp. because they are weak.
This means, that weak PVP-Corps. attack Indy/Mining-Corps. and that must be stoped!
EVE is not build for PVP only! And the marked is not dependent from the War or the PVP! How is thinking that the marked ist depending from PVP isn't a real EVE-Player because the Request from the marked items depends the marked and not more!
So CCP must be change the War-dec-Sys on High-Sec and have to force it out for all the Time or to reduce it of 0.5 & 0.6 only! Otherwise many players would left EVE and this can be mor then 40% of all Players!
EVE don't have the Right to become a real only PVP Game! EVE must be more a PVE Game and PVP can go to low-sec - thes are my last words about it!
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Chaos2341
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Posted - 2011.08.03 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: HELLBOUNDMAN Eve is not a pvp based game.
āaside from the fat that with two exceptions, everything you do in the game is PvP.
(The two exceptions being pushing the "Request mission" button and pushing the "Complete mission" button.)
That's false because runing a Mission is PvE because You don't attack a Player!
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