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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.02 15:52:00 -
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So,
I spent some isk, bought myself a nice wormhole, put up a large pos some guns etc and thought cool!
Been away for a few weeks and while my pos was fueled it seems that I handnt put enough guns on it.
In an emo rage ive decided to go hurt someone elses wormhole fun!
So I have two characters, one will be flying the following,
[Manticore, Manticore fit]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Juggernaut Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Juggernaut Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Juggernaut Torpedo
[Empty High slot]
1MN Afterburner II
Target Painter II
Medium Shield Extender II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Ballistic Control System II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
He has max missile skills so should pack a little puch. Now the heavy tackler. I'm trying to fit a pilgrim for scanning /tackling and and neuting duty. I'm struggling with the fit for the pilgrim. DAny ideas?
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Hamatitio
Caldari
EON Solutions
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:06:00 -
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Do you have recon 5? Without it the fit will be terribly gimped on the pilgrim to fit an expanded launcher.
 Originally by: Forrest Gump
And that's all I got to say 'bout that.
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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:24:00 -
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I dont, but I do have loads of unallocated sp so I can train that real quick.
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:25:00 -
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Linkage
You might want to check that thread for the bomber... though bombs may be troublesome to resupply in a wormhole.
For the Pilgrim, the core probe launcher should be simple enough to fit in place of the nos/one of the neuts on a standard fit so I'm guessing that the problem is a lack of rep and therefore the finite time your armour will last?
If you add a bomb launcher or probe launcher to the bomber then it's not an option but with the current, spare hislot you could use an offline remote rep on the bomber to repair the pilgrim between fights, not hugely efficient but...
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Originally by: cordy
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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:45:00 -
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Hmm,
Thinking that I'm gonna be in WH's drakes is what I am going to encouter the most. I spose its possble to neut one done still gonna have to work through its tank to get to the squishy bit.
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Donot Killmeh
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Posted - 2011.08.02 17:08:00 -
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[Pilgrim, Probe Pilgrim import 3]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Train recon V, it is impossible to fit any cloaky recon well without it. Dont try to engage missile ships with pilgrim. Train Loki or Tengu and you have nice ship with probes and covops cloak.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.02 17:24:00 -
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Just throwing out an idea although if you find the right targets in a pilgrim you will have just as much success. I've used an Arazu to damp a Megathron down to the point it can't shoot me. I ran it duel boxed with a Rapier which helped in holding the target down but your bomber would be equally suited to applying damage from range.
The Pilgrim has a nice enough tank but if you expect to be coming up against drakes then the benefit of neuting the pilgrim gives is mostly lost and an Arazu might be worth crosstraining?
Don't let that put you off though. Active fits and especially Gallente blaster ships are going to crumble nicely to your proposed combo.
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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.02 17:31:00 -
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Hmm, I'll have a fiddle with that fit.
Was thinking if I'm likey to only encounter drakes, I could replace the manticore with a falcon. Sure its not gonna give me any dps. But if I can keep him jammed I can slowly wear away at his tank with drones from the pilgrim.
Is there a one size fits all for the tengu? The manticore alt has all the tengu skills to 5.
I want to be able to scan them out, drop out on him and open a can of woop ass.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2011.08.02 20:36:00 -
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All in all, a Pilgrim is a terrible ship if you "are expecting to encounter Drakes".
Tracking Disruptor is useless on Missile boats.
Nos/Neut is useless on passive tanked ships.
Unless you fit guns, you're limited to about 250dps with max skilled Hammers.
And even if you happen to knock out the Drake's resists and perhaps any active tank, passive Drake tanks more than 250 just by existing (which is why the Drake is seriously Overpowered).
In short, if you expect to be Drake hunting, use something other than a Pilgrim. |
Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.08.03 01:37:00 -
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Playing the devils advocate here...
Skilling up to use an expanded probe launcher with near max skills may not be neccesary. Gank targets will be hanging out in anoms you can find with your onboard scanner, and looking for a POS is as easy as warping to the moons.
Just sayin the skills and even the expanded launcher itself may not be neccesary in a WH when a normal one can do ok (if u want to spend ur SPs on anything else)
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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.09 08:18:00 -
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Well I have some news. I have been lurking around in my wormhole since my pos had been blown up and yesteday I found that someone else is setting up shop.
Now I thought to myself I have two options.
1) Explain to the new occupant what happened and figure out a way that we could work together and maximise both of our profits from the WH
2) Get setup for Carebear EMO rage.
Right now im leaning towards option 2 :P
I have found his POS and its assaultable, I have also found that he seems to have a preference with Amarr ships and does his anom farming in and Harbinger. (Woot!)
I have moved in a low SP scanning alt and moved the two combat characters out of the system for now.
The plan: Farming
With the low Sp character I can scan him out and eliminate the need for the combat scanner on the pilgrim which whould massively ungimp it.
I'll use the pilgrim with ECM drones to kill his cap and ability to fight back, while provding heavy fire support with the Manticore.
I aim to kill him but not pod him in the hope hes a resilient guy and that gives me the ability to farm him a little bit. When I get bored I'll look at the pos, :P.
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Lily Star Gazer
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Posted - 2011.08.09 08:33:00 -
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Here is the pilgrim fit I managed to hobble together.
[Pilgrim, Pilgrim fit]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Core Probe Launcher I
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
I'm note really expecting to use the small rep during combat its just there to top up later.
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Franny
Mentis Seorsum
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Posted - 2011.08.09 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Star Gazer
I'm not really expecting to use the small rep during combat its just there to top up later.
can any of your alts use logistics drones?
even a single light armor maint bot 1
would free up that slot
just scout out make sure he's not scanning you when you are rep'ing
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bushwacka
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Posted - 2011.08.10 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Star Gazer
Here is the pilgrim fit I managed to hobble together.
[Pilgrim, Pilgrim fit]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Core Probe Launcher I
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
I'm note really expecting to use the small rep during combat its just there to top up later.
mid slots are ok, you could also experiment with switching the web for dualprop, 2nd TD or ship scanner (to check your target's cap)
low slots are terrible and wasteful...OD + 1600mm trimarked brick + small repper + almost zero resists? go a bit less extreme, meaning 800mm plate, medium repper, 2x EANM, DC.
rigs to taste, but i'd go for kinetic and thermal resist ones - thermal is the amarr T2 resist hole and you will come across tengus/drakes in WHs sooner or later, might even consider to switch an EANM for a kinetic hardener. but then again, i wouldn't engage either of those 2 ships in a pilgrim except if i knew they were ****fit with a flimsy active tank
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Dead3y3
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Posted - 2011.08.10 09:44:00 -
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Perhaps change your medium ECM drones to Lights. This will give you a couple extra spare hammerheads. You only have 5 and it would suck to lose even one.
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