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Angela Spears	Posted - 2011.08.03 06:21:00 - [1] Just curious really. I got a Domi the other day, my first BS. I initially didn't like Drone boats, but after messing around a bit with other race's ships, I ended up liking the Gallente Ships more, and drone boating grew on me. Back to topic, not like I plan on getting a new ship anytime soon. But after he Domi, what is the next drone boat to train for?
lag kills Original Sin.	Posted - 2011.08.03 06:32:00 - [2] thanatos ___________________________ not all who wander are lost.
Lady Spank Amarr In Praise Of Shadows	Posted - 2011.08.03 06:36:00 - [3] Ishtar ♥ Or if you want to mix things up a bit and do some shield / missile crosstraining you can go for the Gila or Rattlesnake... mostly for PVE though. ~~~ Screenshot batch compression
Verity Sovereign	Posted - 2011.08.03 06:40:00 - [4] I'd say the T2 variant, the Sin, or the pirate faction ones that were just mentioned (Gila/Rattlesnake: missiles launchers, drone bonuses, and shield resistance bonuses)
Eukal Yptus Gallente	Posted - 2011.08.03 07:17:00 - [5] Try to be an expert on hyperion flying, Youll be special
Mereden	Posted - 2011.08.03 08:22:00 - [6] Navy Armageddon? I mean, not technically a drone boat, but it can have a full flight of sentries and lights to deal with the small stuff. The Sin isn't worth training for unless you really want a covert support ship - it's a very long training time and it's not just an upgrade over the Domi, even though it is the T2 variant. In many ways it's inferior to the basic Domi in fact, it's only worth having for when you want to bridge covert ops, bomber and recon gangs onto covert cyno beacons. Best thing to train for if you like the Domi is, well, more Domi. Battleship 5 and full drone skills along with the support and gunnery to fit rails. I'm assuming if this is your first battleship you don't have these yet.
Kilrayn	Posted - 2011.08.03 16:59:00 - [7] Originally by: Lady Spank Ishtar ♥ Or if you want to mix things up a bit and do some shield / missile crosstraining you can go for the Gila or Rattlesnake... mostly for PVE though. Absolutely agree with the Ishtar. It's my main runner now. I'll never hop in a slow-ass BS for missions again.
Baraka Saibot	Posted - 2011.08.03 17:18:00 - [8] There isn't really any other droneboats that can deal out the DPS of the Dominix hull. Other ships can tank better though. There only role the Ishtar, Gila and Rattlesnake can do that the Dominix can't are in low/null sec.
Ryuce My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean	Posted - 2011.08.03 18:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Kilrayn Originally by: Lady Spank Ishtar ♥ Or if you want to mix things up a bit and do some shield / missile crosstraining you can go for the Gila or Rattlesnake... mostly for PVE though. Absolutely agree with the Ishtar. It's my main runner now. I'll never hop in a slow-ass BS for missions again. I've always enjoyed Ishtars, but if you are going to mission consider looking into the shield tanked Navy Domi too. Some have reported it to be highly effective.
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate	Posted - 2011.08.04 01:38:00 - [10] Just throwing this out here: Assuming you're fairly new to the domi, you're probably doing 2-300 DPS with your drones. With perfect skills, a domi does somewhere in the realm of 450-500 with drones. With perfect skills, a domi fit with 425mm rails can push 1100 DPS. For pve at least, if you want to play gallente, the domi is the end of the line, but in order to fly it properly, you need an ABSURD amount of SP.
Angela Spears	Posted - 2011.08.04 03:05:00 - [11] Thanks for the replies. Always a wealth of info to be learned. I know I'll be in the Domi for the next few months at least. The only drone skills I have to 5 are Drones and Scout Drones. Thanatos? Got to look that one up. Not sure I've even heard of that one. Heard of the others though. Anyways, thanks again.
Carmen Martino	Posted - 2011.08.04 09:40:00 - [12] I'd strongly second a Rattlesnake if your looking to cross train Caldari eventually. Beastly tank, cruises hit just as far as you can lock and it just looks sexy. Plus its the only BS you can reliably run lvl 5's in.
Deathwing Reborn	Posted - 2011.08.04 13:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Angela Spears Thanks for the replies. Always a wealth of info to be learned. I know I'll be in the Domi for the next few months at least. The only drone skills I have to 5 are Drones and Scout Drones. Thanatos? Got to look that one up. Not sure I've even heard of that one. Heard of the others though. Anyways, thanks again. Thats not true, if you dont even have drones lvl 5 yet you have big problems if your in a domi. You will want the following to make drones effective as a primary source of damage. Done interfacing: 4-5 (20% damage increase per level) Combat Drone Spec: 4-5 (5% damage increase per level) Gallante Drone Spec: 4 (2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Mimitar Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Drone Durability: 4 Drone Navigation: 4-5 (this is for tech 2 heavies to make them go faster) Heavy Drone Op: 5 (Tech 2 Heavy Drones) Sentry Drone Interfacing: 5 ( if you prefer tech 2 sentry over Heavies) Electronic Warefare Drone Interfacing: 4 (to give you the extra 12k drone range) And the Thanatos is the Gallante Carrier.
Potato IQ	Posted - 2011.08.04 14:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Are these even worth doing sub-cap? Do people actually swap out when using heavies for rats? The Gallente for PvE/pew and Minmatar for pew is the standard skill set up I see and adopted
Angela Spears	Posted - 2011.08.04 14:43:00 - [15] Edited by: Angela Spears on 04/08/2011 14:44:14 Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Originally by: Angela Spears Thanks for the replies. Always a wealth of info to be learned. I know I'll be in the Domi for the next few months at least. The only drone skills I have to 5 are Drones and Scout Drones. Thanatos? Got to look that one up. Not sure I've even heard of that one. Heard of the others though. Anyways, thanks again. Thats not true, if you dont even have drones lvl 5 yet you have big problems if your in a domi. You will want the following to make drones effective as a primary source of damage. Done interfacing: 4-5 (20% damage increase per level) Combat Drone Spec: 4-5 (5% damage increase per level) Gallante Drone Spec: 4 (2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Mimitar Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Drone Durability: 4 Drone Navigation: 4-5 (this is for tech 2 heavies to make them go faster) Heavy Drone Op: 5 (Tech 2 Heavy Drones) Sentry Drone Interfacing: 5 ( if you prefer tech 2 sentry over Heavies) Electronic Warefare Drone Interfacing: 4 (to give you the extra 12k drone range) And the Thanatos is the Gallante Carrier. Ok, yeah, Scout drones and Drones, which I have to level 5 are not the only drones skills I have. What I meant was, they are the only ones I have ot level 5. Of the skills listed, I don't have Minmataror cladari or Sentry Drones at all. However all the others have to at least 3, and mostly all of them to 4. Also too, The Rattlesnake suggestion is great. Deffinetly what I"ll be training for next. Of course thats a few months or longer down the road.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2011.08.04 14:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Potato IQ Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Are these even worth doing sub-cap? Do people actually swap out when using heavies for rats? The Gallente for PvE/pew and Minmatar for pew is the standard skill set up I see and adopted Amarr Drone Spec is highly suspect. Caldari Drone Spec is probably worthwhile as Hornet IIs are surprisingly nice against Kin-weak enemies, especially when combined with their relatively high shields (which makes them easier to manage without having to rep them). Overall they're a lower priority than Gal and Min drones though.
Barbelo Valentinian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.08.04 21:42:00 - [17] Originally by: Potato IQ Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Are these even worth doing sub-cap? Do people actually swap out when using heavies for rats? The Gallente for PvE/pew and Minmatar for pew is the standard skill set up I see and adopted I always swap out full sets of the relevant racial type for PvE missions (e.g. all Amarr drones for EMP against Drones in Drone missions, for example). Kinetic drones also work nicely against Serpentis. Well, it's something to do, innit? ***** "To wake up is to wake the world up" - D.E. Harding
Cyniac Gallente Twilight Star Rangers	Posted - 2011.08.11 13:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Verity Sovereign I'd say the T2 variant, the Sin, or the pirate faction ones that were just mentioned (Gila/Rattlesnake: missiles launchers, drone bonuses, and shield resistance bonuses) Just be aware - the Sin may look similar to the Dominix, but it is nothing like it to fly. Try to fly a Sin where you fly a Dominix and you'll be disappointed. Try to do with a Dominix what you do with a Sin and... well you can't ;-) Ishtar, Rattlesnake, Gila and Navy Domi are all excellent drone boats to play with. Other nice little drone boats but which don't substitute for the Dominix, just compliment it in different roles include the Navy Vexor (for when you need a drone cruiser but cannot fly the Ishtar/Gila yet) the Arbitrator (when you want cloak and drones - nice for when you leave highsec) and actually the Ishkur (brilliant little frigate), and for when you want to surprise everyone - the Sentinel but that's a very specialised ship (which is very effective at what it does).
VaMei	Posted - 2011.08.11 15:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Potato IQ Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Are these even worth doing sub-cap? Do people actually swap out when using heavies for rats? The Gallente for PvE/pew and Minmatar for pew is the standard skill set up I see and adopted When I'm using heavies, its Ogres or nothing; but on those missions where the rats are spread to hell and back, the range on Cal & Amarr sentries is worth the loss in peak DPS if you're facing rats weak to Kin or EM. I'll take applied DPS over peak DPS any day of the week.
Sub Prime	Posted - 2011.08.11 15:49:00 - [20] Originally by: VaMei Originally by: Potato IQ Originally by: Deathwing Reborn Amarr Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Caldari Drone Spec: 4(2% damage increase per level to race specific drone, allows tech 2 drones) Are these even worth doing sub-cap? Do people actually swap out when using heavies for rats? The Gallente for PvE/pew and Minmatar for pew is the standard skill set up I see and adopted When I'm using heavies, its Ogres or nothing; but on those missions where the rats are spread to hell and back, the range on Cal & Amarr sentries is worth the loss in peak DPS if you're facing rats weak to Kin or EM. I'll take applied DPS over peak DPS any day of the week. You don't need the racial drone Spec skills for sentry drones, only for light, medium and heavy combat drones.
VaMei	Posted - 2011.08.11 16:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Sub Prime You don't need the racial drone Spec skills for sentry drones, only for light, medium and heavy combat drones. If your telling me that the Spec skill doesn't add to T2 Sentry damage, then Doh! With the assumption that it adds to ALL advanced drones, then I'm happy with having spent a few days training for an 8% boost.
Sub Prime	Posted - 2011.08.11 16:22:00 - [22] Originally by: VaMei Originally by: Sub Prime You don't need the racial drone Spec skills for sentry drones, only for light, medium and heavy combat drones. If your telling me that the Spec skill doesn't add to T2 Sentry damage, then Doh! With the assumption that it adds to ALL advanced drones, then I'm happy with having spent a few days training for an 8% boost. The racial skill doesn't only apply to racial advanced drones, it applies to racial T1 variants as well. Since it doesn't affect racial Fighter/Fighter Bomber damage I would 'assume' it doesn't affect Sentry drones as none have the racial spec as a prerequisite. I may very well be wrong thought :D

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