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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 00:24:00 -
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Details: 20m per share, 550 shares available. 11 billion needed.
11 billion needed for Orca production, 550 shares available at 20 million each. This will buy researched BPO's of the components and a standard Orca BPO, offering dividends of 10% per month starting December 1st 2011, continuing for the life of the program.
Program will end in two years, at which time bpo's will be sold and shares will be repurchased at 20mil.
Reinvestment shares available after February to go towards future cap construction projects.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Investment Specialist on 07/08/2011 00:33:20 Join INUIN channel.
Held for updates and such.
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GlobalFlight
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Investment Specialist
Join INUIN channel. This is an Alt in an Alt corp. Main corp name withheld for security reasons, and to protect your investments.
Alright, hit me. What are the security reasons, and how does it protect our investments?
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:01:00 -
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Previous thread.
Sorry to be a jerk about it, but it's considered good form on MD to explicitly reveal anything a) already public and b) that might be construed negatively. In this case, making a large offering, learning that it was apparently viewed as too large/risky to get funded, and then making a smaller offering could either be a) scaling down your legitimate, good-faith loan request to what the paranoid souls on MD might fund (quite reasonable) or b) learning that you can't walk off with 50B, so trying to walk off with 10B (unfortunately also quite reasonable). It's relevant information for anyone considering investing.
To be explicit: I don't know the guy, I'm sure there's money to be made legitimately in Orca production, and I have no opinion either way on whether this is a good-faith offering or not.
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GlobalFlight
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:02:00 -
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Bummer, didn't see that thread. Yeah this is a total scam, and not even slightly well done. At least put some effort into your work.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: GlobalFlight
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Join INUIN channel. This is an Alt in an Alt corp. Main corp name withheld for security reasons, and to protect your investments.
Alright, hit me. What are the security reasons, and how does it protect our investments?
Griefers can and do troll the forums looking for some type of target, with a brand new investment plan, and a corp name they could find us and disrupt the whole thing. I really don't want that to happen.
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: GlobalFlight
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Join INUIN channel. This is an Alt in an Alt corp. Main corp name withheld for security reasons, and to protect your investments.
Alright, hit me. What are the security reasons, and how does it protect our investments?
To be fair to the guy, if he's going to be handling billions in materials and ships, wouldn't it make sense for him to not want pirates/mercs/competitors to know who, and where, he is?
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kethas Protagonist Previous thread.
Sorry to be a jerk about it, but it's considered good form on MD to explicitly reveal anything a) already public and b) that might be construed negatively. In this case, making a large offering, learning that it was apparently viewed as too large/risky to get funded, and then making a smaller offering could either be a) scaling down your legitimate, good-faith loan request to what the paranoid souls on MD might fund (quite reasonable) or b) learning that you can't walk off with 50B, so trying to walk off with 10B (unfortunately also quite reasonable). It's relevant information for anyone considering investing.
To be explicit: I don't know the guy, I'm sure there's money to be made legitimately in Orca production, and I have no opinion either way on whether this is a good-faith offering or not.
Didn't think of that. Yes my first plan was too big for what I could expect to receive. While I still think it was a good plan, it was poorly thought out and I wanted to start over.
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GlobalFlight
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
Originally by: GlobalFlight
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Join INUIN channel. This is an Alt in an Alt corp. Main corp name withheld for security reasons, and to protect your investments.
Alright, hit me. What are the security reasons, and how does it protect our investments?
To be fair to the guy, if he's going to be handling billions in materials and ships, wouldn't it make sense for him to not want pirates/mercs/competitors to know who, and where, he is?
It would make sense to do the opposite - have a main well-known character posting the thread, with the actual research and production done in a secret alt-corp known to trusted auditors. Let's not be fair to the guy, woot
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: GlobalFlight
Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
Originally by: GlobalFlight
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Join INUIN channel. This is an Alt in an Alt corp. Main corp name withheld for security reasons, and to protect your investments.
Alright, hit me. What are the security reasons, and how does it protect our investments?
To be fair to the guy, if he's going to be handling billions in materials and ships, wouldn't it make sense for him to not want pirates/mercs/competitors to know who, and where, he is?
It would make sense to do the opposite - have a main well-known character posting the thread, with the actual research and production done in a secret alt-corp known to trusted auditors. Let's not be fair to the guy, woot
though I like your attitude sir.
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GlobalFlight
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:11:00 -
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We're perfectly willing to be scammed by you if you at least put some effort into it!
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:13:00 -
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Christ man, didn't I post just yesterday a very extensive guide on how to scam the people in Market Discussions?
On the other hand I suppose this could be some sort of exceedingly brilliant reverse meta-troll.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: GlobalFlight We're perfectly willing to be scammed by you if you at least put some effort into it!
Originally by: Lyris Nairn Christ man, didn't I post just yesterday a very extensive guide on how to scam the people in Market Discussions?
On the other hand I suppose this could be some sort of exceedingly brilliant reverse meta-troll.
Sure, but this isn't a scam, or an exceedingly brilliant reverse meta-troll.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:29:00 -
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I do enjoy the fact that for once there is a legitimate business post and everyone screams scam.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:46:00 -
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Okay then, I posted a guide on how to present a "perfectly legitimate business idea" on Market Discussions.
Whatever you want to call it, I posted a guide on how to do it properly and instead of following it you puked up this garbage.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Okay then, I posted a guide on how to present a "perfectly legitimate business idea" on Market Discussions.
Whatever you want to call it, I posted a guide on how to do it properly and instead of following it you puked up this garbage.
I know the goons are lords of trolling and such but seriously, take it elsewhere. Yes there is risk in this venture, yes it's kinda rough, but it is also a real plan not some way to troll and get a few laughs. I almost joined the goons back in the day when you were just BoB's little bint on the side, but decided against it because you just troll and whine and tear down other people while I am trying to build something, and say I did this, even if it is just in a game.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lyris Nairn on 07/08/2011 02:04:19
You are completely missing the point. I am not trolling you. I am telling you that there exist guides on how to present yourself so that you look like you're legitimate and have some idea of what you're doing. I am also telling you that I wrote one, in this forum, just yesterday; and, that instead of doing a little bit of researchùby looking for such a guide or reading the OP of successful ventures that got investorsùyou decided to vomit up a disorganized mess that looks like it was scribbled in crayon on the back of a napkin. That is why I am openly mocking you for being so hilariously inept, which is not trollingùand you would know the difference if you were half as smart as you need to be in order to convince people to throw space gold at you in EVE Online the popular spaceship MMO.
e: Keep up this childish argument with me; it'll make you look great for the spectators!
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Investment Specialist on 07/08/2011 02:46:08 I rethought my previous plan, and fixed the issues most people had with it. Lower investment, details, time frame. Is it rough? Yes. Do I care? No. This is the plan, and I would like some help with it, if you don't feel like investing, then don't. I have a month to get investors before I have to push the first payout date back. I would rather you ask me questions that I can answer than get mocked for not reading you post.
Before you ask if I did any research, yes, Orca sales are beginning to level out, indicating a price drop in the near future, or until the next hulkageddon, but in a year's time they have almost doubled in price.
Did I do any research on how to post? Not really, because I knew posting would get me these types of responses.
But please, keep posting. I like to see this thread at the top of MD page 1.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Investment Specialist But please, keep posting. I like to see this thread at the top of MD page 1.
I will never stop posting.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Investment Specialist But please, keep posting. I like to see this thread at the top of MD page 1.
I will never stop posting.
Thank you.
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Webb Mordock
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:07:00 -
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I'm actually GlobalFlight. For some reason the forums were defaulting to him.
In short, yes, this is a Goonswarm trolling conspiracy.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:13:00 -
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I am also Kethas Protagonist, completing the masterstroke.
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Webb Mordock
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:14:00 -
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hi5
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:23:00 -
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Hooray for goonswarm. Now onto other matters, I am still looking for investors.
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Webb Mordock
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Webb Mordock on 07/08/2011 03:24:13 I take back everything I've said. This is an excellent opportunity and you should all invest.
Please add "Goonswarm Endorsed" to the original post.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Webb Mordock Edited by: Webb Mordock on 07/08/2011 03:24:13 I take back everything I've said. This is an excellent opportunity and you should all invest.
Please add "Goonswarm Endorsed" to the original post.
And this will get me investors who? now if I put Goonswarm hates me, that would get me somewhere.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Investment Specialist
Originally by: Webb Mordock Edited by: Webb Mordock on 07/08/2011 03:24:13 I take back everything I've said. This is an excellent opportunity and you should all invest.
Please add "Goonswarm Endorsed" to the original post.
And this will get me investors who? now if I put Goonswarm hates me, that would get me somewhere.
But we love you.
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Investment Specialist
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Posted - 2011.08.07 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Originally by: Webb Mordock Edited by: Webb Mordock on 07/08/2011 03:24:13 I take back everything I've said. This is an excellent opportunity and you should all invest.
Please add "Goonswarm Endorsed" to the original post.
And this will get me investors who? now if I put Goonswarm hates me, that would get me somewhere.
But we love you.
Please check thread name.
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Loraine Gess2
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Posted - 2011.08.07 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Investment Specialist
Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Investment Specialist
Originally by: Webb Mordock Edited by: Webb Mordock on 07/08/2011 03:24:13 I take back everything I've said. This is an excellent opportunity and you should all invest.
Please add "Goonswarm Endorsed" to the original post.
And this will get me investors who? now if I put Goonswarm hates me, that would get me somewhere.
But we love you.
Please check thread name.
You're terrible with people, I wouldn't trust you with a dime, let alone isk.
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israus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.07 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Investment Specialist Edited by: Investment Specialist on 07/08/2011 03:32:01 Details: 20m per share, 550 shares available. 11 billion needed.
11 billion needed for Orca production, 550 shares available at 20 million each. This will buy researched BPO's of the components and a standard Orca BPO, offering dividends of 10% per month starting December 1st 2011, continuing for the life of the program.
Program will end in two years, at which time bpo's will be sold and shares will be repurchased at 20mil.
Reinvestment shares available after February to go towards future cap construction projects.
you still havent looked at addressing the security issues from your first thread you have no mention on how the BPOs will be secured ie will you get them secured 3rd party ?
the other issue is the return your going to be paying 1.1 billion a month in interest orca production with component production with the BPOs you will own is only going to be worth 2 billion ish a month so your going to be giving away most of your profit in interest each other so the chance of you getting bored and doing a runner is high in my opinion
and lastly your already talking about expanding your operation in your first post your saying an expansion could happen little over a month after you've paided your first interest payment.
all concerns and red flags to me |
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