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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.11 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 11/08/2011 23:50:13
you mad, investors?
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Financial numbers
We'd also like to share some financial details. There are all kinds of details we are able to share here, but we will restrict ourselves to posting only the data we see as significant.
ISK invested in Phaser Inc. :1.831.672.334.372,65 ISK
ISK withdrawn from Phaser Inc. :452.724.496.124,17 ISK
Sum of weekly Interest paid :345.176.303.826,13 ISK
Total ISK available at present:1.033.771.534.422,35 ISK
lol, it was just so obvious i have no idea why idiots gave them money 
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.11 23:50:00 -
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Obvious scam is obvious.
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Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
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Posted - 2011.08.11 23:54:00 -
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Good job.
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Dub Step
Minmatar
Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
lol, it was just so obvious i have no idea why idiots gave them money
Perhaps because they are idiots.
At least that's one less bunch of spam in local.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:03:00 -
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I have 17m isk, can I help?
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dub Step
Perhaps because they are idiots.
At least that's one less bunch of spam in local.
Confirming Dub Step is a highsec pubbie.
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xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:07:00 -
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shocking development...
really....
Ok maybe not. Who didnt see this coming ?
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Vallanis
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:07:00 -
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Bravo
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:10:00 -
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Honestly their spam in local annoyed more then anything else. It was not even a good scam, unlike the ones abusing the margin trading skill at the moment.
The ones whoe invested into this scheme deserved to lose it.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:11:00 -
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WTF is Phaser Inc, ?
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
It was not even a good scam
Yeah, 1000 bill isk is a crappy profit 
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seany1212
The Scowling Men
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:13:00 -
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Eve investment bank did it better, originality; unchecked, time taken to spam every local with that blattently obvious scam; probably the same amount they would have made doing missions/plexing/mining/wormhole sites
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Mortimer Civeri
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:22:00 -
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A fool, and his money...Ah, you know the rest.
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Neurotica
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:24:00 -
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if it's too good to be true, it's a scam.
I was starting to think that most of eve is 12 yrs old
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Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.08.12 00:25:00 -
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I should get in on this scamming market before everyone realizes how ******ed investment schemes are in a world without the SEC.
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Richard Throatdeep
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Posted - 2011.08.12 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fix Lag
I should get in on this scamming market before everyone realizes how ******ed investment schemes are in a world without the SEC.
The SEC? What did they change? They have a 100% failure rate!
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.08.12 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
WTF is Phaser Inc, ?
A corp that has been around for a while spamming local with "Give us ISK, we trade with it and give you weekly 5% payouts" or something like that. They've refused all requests to say how they are going to make the money which rang all sorts of alarm bells in people who ever heard about a Ponzi scheme.
Aparently 4000 people did not know how to google and thus lost their ISK. Of course that number comes from a scammer, so I would not rely on it too much.
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.08.12 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Neurotica
if it's too good to be true, it's a scam.
I was starting to think that most of eve is 12 yrs old
IMO so many scams work because EVE is not using real money, and you CAN create money out thin air. You're much more careful with RL cash (well, I hope :P ) since you cannot simply get yourself a new Ibis and mine your way up again here on Earth - in EVE even the worst desaster can be countered with enough grind.
Thus too many people go "Oh well, I can afford to lose x ISK", and that's what scammers prey on.
But there's certainly a fair share of 12 year olds as well :)
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.08.12 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Serpents smile on 12/08/2011 04:53:24
Well, I was like bored, thought their website looked really pro and I had 150 mil "over", so I was like, 'what the heck' if It's scam not much lost, if it's not I have 150 mil extra in my pocket and I will put 300 mil in next time.
Not going to be a next time now.
The spam in local was indeed getting annoying and I knew then it was probably turning out to be a scam. It sounded way too desperate to be from a serious investor.
To the OP, mad no. Why should I be. It's like jumping into low sec, you then know you probably get shot at. Like going along with anyone setting up something like phaser inc. here in EVE.
At least I didn't use my EVE PW for the account. Now *that* would had been really stupid. 
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.12 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Edited by: Serpents smile on 12/08/2011 04:53:24
Well, I was like bored, thought their website looked really pro and I had 150 mil "over", so I was like, 'what the heck' if It's scam not much lost, if it's not I have 150 mil extra in my pocket and I will put 300 mil in next time.
Not going to be a next time now.
The spam in local was indeed getting annoying and I knew then it was probably turning out to be a scam. It sounded way too desperate to be from a serious investor.
To the OP, mad no. Why should I be. It's like jumping into low sec, you then know you probably get shot at. Like going along with anyone setting up something like phaser inc. here in EVE.
At least I didn't use my EVE PW for the account. Now *that* would had been really stupid.
confirming phaser inc only scammed high sec pubbies such as yourself.
Look at it this way, you were as stupid as 4000 other nerds.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.08.12 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
confirming phaser inc only scammed high sec pubbies such as yourself.
Look at it this way, you were as stupid as 4000 other nerds.
Shrug. It's a game dude. I gambled and lost (nothing I cannot replace easily).
Again, shrug.
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Galehund
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Shrug. It's a game dude.
In general, this small fact seems to elude a lot of people
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness
A corp that has been around for a while spamming local with "Give us ISK, we trade with it and give you weekly 5% payouts" or something like that. They've refused all requests to say how they are going to make the money which rang all sorts of alarm bells in people who ever heard about a Ponzi scheme.
Aparently 4000 people did not know how to google and thus lost their ISK. Of course that number comes from a scammer, so I would not rely on it too much.
They did say how they are making ISK: By trading. I know a bit about trading and 5% weekly profit doesn't seem too much, which is why I thought that this just might be real and not Ponzi Scheme.
However, I never invested more than I could afford to lose (max 300 mil), and in this case I withdraw all in time so I lost nothing.
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Dub Step
Minmatar
Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Galehund
Originally by: Serpents smile
Shrug. It's a game dude.
In general, this small fact seems to elude a lot of people
NO!
THIS BE SERIOUS BUSINESS, SO DAMN SERIOUS THAT YOU SHOULD ALT POST ON THE FORUMS JUST IN CASE SOMEONE EITHER CALLS YOU OUT OR DECLARES WAR ON YOU FOR SMACKTALK. YOU CAN'T ABUSE OTHER PLAYERS ON THE FORUMS UNLESS YOU HIDE BECAUSE THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS VIDEOGAME AND THERE ARE GRAVE REPPERCUSSIONS. I FOR ONE LIKE TO PROVE HOW I AM BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE BY HIDING LIKE A COWARD ON AN UNACCOUNTABLE ALT
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CarmenIbanez
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Posted - 2011.08.12 07:03:00 -
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I had been trying to withdraw my 2 billion ISK every day for like 5 weeks but they never got back to me...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.12 07:23:00 -
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So this means we will finally not have to see their spam? Now if only those other spammers could stop too maybe we would actually be able to use local
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Magnus Veyr
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Posted - 2011.08.12 07:35:00 -
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He's been flying around for eons spouting his add in every system, over and over again. Anyone falling for that got exactly what he deserved.
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Aramatheia
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Posted - 2011.08.12 07:37:00 -
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2 months into playing EVE, saw the phaserinc stuff hammering trade where ever i went and still was cluey enough to know it was screaming scam. Louder than a jackhammer 2 inches from my ear. Thankfully i rarely have local open so i could avoid 98% of it.
I am amazed anyone sent them anything. But as other said a its just a game, and b its not like a few m isk is hard to make in eve. My 2 month old character has passed 3b and i dont play the market
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.08.12 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: CarmenIbanez
I had been trying to withdraw my 2 billion ISK every day for like 5 weeks but they never got back to me...
Did you post on forums about that after you had waited over 1 day? If not, why not?
I got my 300 mil back within 24 hours as promised. If it would've taken longer, then I would've posted on forums at once, informing others of their empty promises.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.12 08:24:00 -
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ITT: MMORPG player calls other MMORPG players nerds and idiots.
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Sadayiel
Caldari
Inner Conflict
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Posted - 2011.08.12 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
So this means we will finally not have to see their spam? Now if only those other spammers could stop too maybe we would actually be able to use local
1st thing i tought when i saw this post.. good no moar spam!!!
also a quick check once, 3x man corp all of them almost always online traveling tru all major hi-sec markets spamming = scam.
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M'ktakh
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Posted - 2011.08.12 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Shrug. It's a game dude. I gambled and lost (nothing I cannot replace easily).
Again, shrug.
I honestly and sincerely support this attitude. I am not affiliated with said scam, but seeing someone write "its a game" on this forum is quite refreshing. ISK is there to be played with, after you hoard your buffer.
Kudos to you, kind Sir/Ma'am/EvE transvestite
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Agent 42
Gallente
RADIO RAMPAGE
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Agent 42 on 12/08/2011 11:00:59
People who lost isk in this suck, you had plenty of time to double up. My alt invested early and once my initial investment was matched I pulled out the majority of my isk. I suppose I lost the bit of isk I still had there but in total I still came out on top. Thank you Phaser Inc.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:13:00 -
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Wow, a trillion ISK..... You converted a lot of play time to isk. WELP.
What next then? Converting that ISK to RL money? oh wai.... I bet you actually "play" the game too right?
*forum pat on the back that you want so badly*
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Marchocias
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aquana Abyss
Wow, a trillion ISK..... You converted a lot of play time to isk. WELP.
What next then? Converting that ISK to RL money? oh wai.... I bet you actually "play" the game too right?
*forum pat on the back that you want so badly*
Butthurt nerd much?
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias
Originally by: Aquana Abyss
Wow, a trillion ISK..... You converted a lot of play time to isk. WELP.
What next then? Converting that ISK to RL money? oh wai.... I bet you actually "play" the game too right?
*forum pat on the back that you want so badly*
Butthurt nerd much?
Lame reply - only replying to say I haven't been scammed once in 6 years playing Eve. Yes there are idiots being scammed every day, we all know this.
I just get tired of morons like the OP seeking a combination of attention, tears and validation by coming to the forum to brag about their heists.
Since the "oringinal" huge scam/theft by the GHSC's 5-6 YEARS AGO that was covered in PC Gamer, every other scam/theft is just unoriginal "meh". U get me, bruv?
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Marchocias
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Posted - 2011.08.12 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aquana Abyss
Lame reply - only replying to say I haven't been scammed once in 6 years playing Eve. Yes there are idiots being scammed every day, we all know this.
I just get tired of morons like the OP seeking a combination of attention, tears and validation by coming to the forum to brag about their heists.
Since the "oringinal" huge scam/theft by the GHSC's 5-6 YEARS AGO that was covered in PC Gamer, every other scam/theft is just unoriginal "meh". U get me, bruv?
If you're tired of these posts in particular, why do you click on them? I just get tired of folk like yourself seeking a combination of feelings-of-self-superiority, reverse-tears, and kudos by coming onto these posts and adding nothing but their own meaningless disinterest. I however don't have the luxury of being prewarned about such content by the title of the thread.
Anyway, since the "orangeanal" time someone shot someone else in a computer game, everyone other occasion since then was also unoriginal. Originality doesn't matter if the story is told interestingly enough.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.08.12 12:53:00 -
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Impressive, you posted more than a meme.
And I agree, a heist can be interesting if the story is told well - this one was not and is not. I admit I wish I had not clicked the post, my mistake. Fun as talking to you has been, you're a waste of my time.
Keep on trollin' 
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.08.12 12:54:00 -
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stop to envy and start to make your own money guys....
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Pok Nibin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:18:00 -
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Interesting. There are so many so-called "scams" because there's no enforcement mechanism. When Madoff "made off" with all that money, he wound up in prison. There's no enforcement because there's no rule of law. And, since there's no rule of law, there's no such thing as a scam in EVE.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Watch the left hand while I diddle with myself with my right. It's not a GAME since it has no real rules, or objectives, other than own sh^t, blow sh^t up or mass a bunch of ISK and brag.
It's....an asylum and the inmates run it. By the way, stop complaining about the padded cells. It's all CCP can do to keep us supplied with toilet paper.
Please wait as this sig-
nature finishes loading
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:32:00 -
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Meh... what Pok said. It's not illegal, so there's no actual scam. Just over 4000 really, really bad business decisions.
I'm going back to not caring now.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:43:00 -
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Whether or not they raised the claimed 1 tril isk, at least MD didn't act as enablers for once!
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23
Whether or not they raised the claimed 1 tril isk, at least MD didn't act as enablers for once!
Can't rain all the time
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Muad 'dib
Caldari
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.08.12 14:49:00 -
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its only a scam when one of them rips it off, if they realise that it can work and if they just keep it going they will be super duper rich without even robbing it.
Maybe one day when they all wanna quit they can make it a hiest, but until then its a pretty good busniess.
Meep Meep!
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.12 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
its only a scam when one of them rips it off, if they realise that it can work and if they just keep it going they will be super duper rich without even robbing it.
Maybe one day when they all wanna quit they can make it a hiest, but until then its a pretty good busniess.
Uhm did you read the OP where it stated they DID make it a heist?
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Sandrestal
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Posted - 2011.08.12 14:54:00 -
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Bernie Maddoff would be proud
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Muad 'dib
Caldari
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Muad 'dib
its only a scam when one of them rips it off, if they realise that it can work and if they just keep it going they will be super duper rich without even robbing it.
Maybe one day when they all wanna quit they can make it a hiest, but until then its a pretty good busniess.
Uhm did you read the OP where it stated they DID make it a heist?
oh he didnt link any proof i thought it was another phaser is a scam or will be thread.
in that case LOLOLOL
Meep Meep!
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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Can't rain all the time
Except in Manchester,
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Amsterdam Conversations
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:50:00 -
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So finally we get to see the numbers.
I've really wondered when they'd stop spamming their website in local, I always thought the scam was so obvious that no one would invest.
Now you actually got a trillion together, that is just brilliant. And it's mostly highsec money too, I like that.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.12 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: RAW23
Whether or not they raised the claimed 1 tril isk, at least MD didn't act as enablers for once!
Can't rain all the time
Great song.
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.12 16:04:00 -
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This scam has been called out so many times I consider their figures as doubtful as the promised returns.
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Ula Barbaria
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Posted - 2011.08.12 16:59:00 -
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The question remains: Now what?
Not everything is lost!
All investors have a choice: They can forget or can react.
This event is also known from real life and they are defense mechanisms here for these cases û low court and precedent! Simply because this is real life situation and people who doing this in real life are marked as thiefÆs! (In nations of first world I mean) Phaser Inc is talking about ôbecause this is not illegalö but they are WRONG! This is illegal!!!
Victims of this FIDDLE are not victims by Eve online game official rules!!! They donÆt lost ships in regular battle (even unfair battle). They donÆt lost money on market (even bad business).
They money was simple stolen!
This is not fun anymore because real money is involved! EveÆs ISK is not anymore just virtual currency! Eve ISK can be transferred to real money of significant value and this conversion is officially and directly supported by CCP Games û PLEX!
By calculations we are talking about +/- 2.830 PLEX licenses (235 years of free play) û it is 56.458 EUR (80.250 USD).
And this is exactly the situation in which victims can invoke justice under international law!
This event canÆt be underestimated! This was not just some scam. This will have impact on Eve world and players behavior.
If CCP wonÆt intervene (As well as governments in the same cases) Eve world is going to change.
So I am interested how this event ends.
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Apocaron Ultimarr
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.12 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Amsterdam Conversations
So finally we get to see the numbers.
I've really wondered when they'd stop spamming their website in local, I always thought the scam was so obvious that no one would invest.
Now you actually got a trillion together, that is just brilliant. And it's mostly highsec money too, I like that.
This event is done just couple of hours and you are wondered .... you are so fast ....
Yeah of course ...
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.12 17:42:00 -
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PLEX go one way... RL $ to ISK. Thats it. No court will take this on, no lawyer in their right mind would take it on. You lost, and are now butthurt over it. Get over yourself, and learn to research before investing.
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Ula Barbaria
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Posted - 2011.08.12 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zagam
PLEX go one way... RL $ to ISK. Thats it. No court will take this on, no lawyer in their right mind would take it on. You lost, and are now butthurt over it. Get over yourself, and learn to research before investing.
It is funny and pathetic when someone who doesnÆt know how to convert ISK to real money is attacking another in order to learn about investing...
And you don't understand the point of my opinion.
If CCP donÆt intervene in this case like ôcourtö we can expect how crime will be raising in this community. More scam - more spam - because ALL IS ALLOWED!
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Tribal Traditionalist
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Posted - 2011.08.12 17:59:00 -
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I KNEW i should have bought those credit default swaps at 376bps
i should lern to trust my gut sometime
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ula Barbaria
Originally by: Zagam
PLEX go one way... RL $ to ISK. Thats it. No court will take this on, no lawyer in their right mind would take it on. You lost, and are now butthurt over it. Get over yourself, and learn to research before investing.
It is funny and pathetic when someone who doesnÆt know how to convert ISK to real money is attacking another in order to learn about investing...
And you don't understand the point of my opinion.
If CCP donÆt intervene in this case like ôcourtö we can expect how crime will be raising in this community. More scam - more spam - because ALL IS ALLOWED!
You've never played in a sandbox, have you?
Anyway... I was speaking *within the EULA* for the PLEX-RL conversion. Yes, you can absolutely sell ISK for real money. But PLEX were not designed for that, nor does CCP support that.
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Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:13:00 -
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I heard Penny is going to kick you in your little special place. 
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Sasio Shihari
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ula Barbaria
The question remains: Now what?
Not everything is lost!
All investors have a choice: They can forget or can react.
This event is also known from real life and they are defense mechanisms here for these cases û low court and precedent! Simply because this is real life situation and people who doing this in real life are marked as thiefÆs! (In nations of first world I mean) Phaser Inc is talking about ôbecause this is not illegalö but they are WRONG! This is illegal!!!
Victims of this FIDDLE are not victims by Eve online game official rules!!! They donÆt lost ships in regular battle (even unfair battle). They donÆt lost money on market (even bad business).
They money was simple stolen!
This is not fun anymore because real money is involved! EveÆs ISK is not anymore just virtual currency! Eve ISK can be transferred to real money of significant value and this conversion is officially and directly supported by CCP Games û PLEX!
By calculations we are talking about +/- 2.830 PLEX licenses (235 years of free play) û it is 56.458 EUR (80.250 USD).
And this is exactly the situation in which victims can invoke justice under international law!
This event canÆt be underestimated! This was not just some scam. This will have impact on Eve world and players behavior.
If CCP wonÆt intervene (As well as governments in the same cases) Eve world is going to change.
So I am interested how this event ends.
Dude, just accept that ISK is play-money and you got play-scammed. Real Life courts are concerned with RL events, and this does not count as one of them.
Also, if you think that this is the first, the biggest or the most notorious of scams in the history of Eve, then you haven't been playing long enough... Finance PVP is still just PVP.
Besides I made a billion off of these guys and still got my money out in time, so you should have just been more paranoid. 
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
pubbies
Go back to your paid forum Hilmar.
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Look at it this way, you were as stupid as 4000 other nerds.
Better to be scammed with nerds forever, than breath the same air as you.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online:
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:42:00 -
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Anyone who is investing ISK in any kind of Eve bank, Eve stock or Eve bonds deserve to lose all his ISK and is complete moron. Eve lacks any accountability - this alone makes any investment idiotic as nothing prevents the fund owner to pack his ISK and run away, then simply buy another char on the bazaar.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.08.12 19:15:00 -
[62]
There are two questions that I ask myself when I see an entity like Phaser Inc.
1) If they are so successful, why do they need my money?
2) If they are so successful, why would they be willing to pay interest on my investment when they could instead just wait for their own business to give them the money they need?
There are times when you can answer the above two questions satisfactorily. But Phaser Inc. never answered these two, key questions.
That being said, it IS possible for the "customers" to make a lot of money off of ponzi schemes. The trick is that you have to get in early, and pull out before it's too late.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.12 19:22:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Estephania
Anyone who is investing ISK in any kind of Eve bank, Eve stock or Eve bonds deserve to lose all his ISK and is complete moron. Eve lacks any accountability - this alone makes any investment idiotic as nothing prevents the fund owner to pack his ISK and run away, then simply buy another char on the bazaar.
Yeah, exactly, that's precisely what makes EVE un-real - i.e. a game. Everyone's anonymous. The only people who trust each other in EVE are rl friends - and even then, not always
OTOH, this circumstance also makes it the case that someone who is trustworthy in the game, and doesn't abuse their anonymity could become famous for that in-game.
But then they might still be tempted at some point later on
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"To wake up is to wake the world up" - D.E. Harding |
Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:02:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Ula Barbaria
Originally by: Zagam
PLEX go one way... RL $ to ISK. Thats it. No court will take this on, no lawyer in their right mind would take it on. You lost, and are now butthurt over it. Get over yourself, and learn to research before investing.
It is funny and pathetic when someone who doesnÆt know how to convert ISK to real money is attacking another in order to learn about investing...
And you don't understand the point of my opinion.
If CCP donÆt intervene in this case like ôcourtö we can expect how crime will be raising in this community. More scam - more spam - because ALL IS ALLOWED!
No, you can't convert ISK to $$ (if you follow the Eve's EULA and stuff), all you can do is SAVE MONEY, you do not have more money in your pocket from ISK, you just spend less.
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:09:00 -
[65]
Phaser Inc a scam?
Go figure.
Now, can we lose the spam, please?
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Joeve Vess
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:43:00 -
[66]
Hopefully one day people will learn to stop wasting there money on those scam...probably not
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Jiny Lee
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:52:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Jiny Lee on 12/08/2011 20:52:29
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:54:00 -
[68]
(points to my sig)
anyone who invested in that and did not pull there money out before this?
Sell off everything you have, send all resulting isk to the CCP charity "person" Delete and Biomass all characters and cancle your accounts
why?
you are not paranoid enough to play EvE.
.End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . .
...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE
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Tethys Atreides
The Audacity of Huge
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Posted - 2011.08.12 21:03:00 -
[69]
Can we get a waxed handlebar moustache for the NEX store?
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Kumq uat
Gallente
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.12 21:26:00 -
[70]
Everyone falls for a scam now or then. The point is to make sure you don't fall for big ones. Most I lost was 25 mil on Quafe Ultra I thought was Quafe Zero. Happens. Stop being so butt hurt.
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Winters Chill
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.08.12 21:47:00 -
[71]
Every Player run Bank in Eve, over a long enough timeline, is or will become a scam.
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Umbriele
Gallente
Natural Inventions
Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2011.08.12 23:53:00 -
[72]
I know it was a scam from the beginning since it was so clear, but not to all apparently :)
So it was just a bet about when to retire my isk before the scam day, like any hazard games, and I win about 500.000.000 isk
Thank you Phaser, this was the best pvp experience ever, good job!! :-)
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Sumos Tigerclaw
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.08.13 00:34:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Neurotica
if it's too good to be true, it's a scam.
I was starting to think that most of eve is 12 yrs old
If it's in EvE, it's a scam.
Most of eve is 25-35, but they do act like 12 year olds.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Winters Chill
Every Player run Bank in Eve, over a long enough timeline, is or will become a scam.
If I recall correctly, the guy running the big bank scam, a while back, got banned. Food for thought.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Winters Chill
Every Player run Bank in Eve, over a long enough timeline, is or will become a scam.
If I recall correctly, the guy running the big bank scam, a while back, got banned. Food for thought.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:22:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Winters Chill
Every Player run Bank in Eve, over a long enough timeline, is or will become a scam.
If I recall correctly, the guy running the big bank scam, a while back, got banned. Food for thought.
For RMT, not for the scam.
Oh yeah, that's right; now I remember! I think it was a kid, actually, who sold of everything his bank possessed, for a measely $12 dollars, to a friend of his. LOL. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.13 06:00:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Edited by: Cipher Jones on 12/08/2011 16:19:37
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: RAW23
Whether or not they raised the claimed 1 tril isk, at least MD didn't act as enablers for once!
Can't rain all the time
Great song.
Well guessed right there , indeed got the line from that movie , just like the rest of my bio
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Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2011.08.13 06:06:00 -
[78]
There is no paranoia in Eve. Everyone is out to get you.
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Piwat King
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Posted - 2011.08.13 09:46:00 -
[79]
To those who got scammed....
Too bad for you. you won't get anything back.
However, if you want to **** with these guys here's what you do.
If you're American, write a letter to the FBI's internet investigations unit. Why you ask? Well there's several reasons.
1) they opened a public domain that required you to create an account that also required personal information. Collecting personal information under false pretenses is a crime. (even over the internet)
2) It's obvious from their letter that they intended all along to use this domain to commit fraud (of a type)
3) If they live in North America. they've committed digital fraud.
4) The more of you that file a complaint with the FBI the better chance you all have of getting them to investigate this issue to see if that domain was indeed registered by an American citizen.
5) you will never "get your isk back" but however if this gets looked into and acted upon these guys won't be able to so much as power up a computer for the next 10-20 years.
Digital items in EVE are inherently the property of CCP. Even your character belongs to CCP. Your personal information however is yours. They collected and maintained a database of that personal info with the intent to mislead people. That's a crime.
Enjoy and good luck (and dear god I can't believe people actually fell for this)
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.08.13 11:26:00 -
[80]
Edited by: March rabbit on 13/08/2011 11:27:29
will add some fuel to your fire... (after all everybody needs some kind of "i'm better than you!").
my 1.1bil came to Phaser Inc.  (good job guys)
start to blame
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Xyfu
Minmatar
Love From Above
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Posted - 2011.08.13 12:13:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Piwat King
To those who got scammed....
Too bad for you. you won't get anything back.
However, if you want to **** with these guys here's what you do.
If you're American, write a letter to the FBI's internet investigations unit. Why you ask? Well there's several reasons.
1) they opened a public domain that required you to create an account that also required personal information. Collecting personal information under false pretenses is a crime. (even over the internet)
2) It's obvious from their letter that they intended all along to use this domain to commit fraud (of a type)
3) If they live in North America. they've committed digital fraud.
4) The more of you that file a complaint with the FBI the better chance you all have of getting them to investigate this issue to see if that domain was indeed registered by an American citizen.
5) you will never "get your isk back" but however if this gets looked into and acted upon these guys won't be able to so much as power up a computer for the next 10-20 years.
Digital items in EVE are inherently the property of CCP. Even your character belongs to CCP. Your personal information however is yours. They collected and maintained a database of that personal info with the intent to mislead people. That's a crime.
Enjoy and good luck (and dear god I can't believe people actually fell for this)
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WOOAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFFFHFAHAHAFHAPPFPFPFFFFFPFPFFFFFPFFFFF
HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHA
Ok, I think... I think I-pffffffffffffffffHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Baraka Saibot
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Posted - 2011.08.13 12:58:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Baraka Saibot on 13/08/2011 13:02:20
Originally by: Piwat King
To those who got scammed....
Too bad for you. you won't get anything back.
However, if you want to **** with these guys here's what you do.
If you're American, write a letter to the FBI's internet investigations unit. Why you ask? Well there's several reasons.
1) they opened a public domain that required you to create an account that also required personal information. Collecting personal information under false pretenses is a crime. (even over the internet)
2) It's obvious from their letter that they intended all along to use this domain to commit fraud (of a type)
3) If they live in North America. they've committed digital fraud.
4) The more of you that file a complaint with the FBI the better chance you all have of getting them to investigate this issue to see if that domain was indeed registered by an American citizen.
5) you will never "get your isk back" but however if this gets looked into and acted upon these guys won't be able to so much as power up a computer for the next 10-20 years.
Digital items in EVE are inherently the property of CCP. Even your character belongs to CCP. Your personal information however is yours. They collected and maintained a database of that personal info with the intent to mislead people. That's a crime.
Enjoy and good luck (and dear god I can't believe people actually fell for this)
Now, I'm not an American citizen... But I doubt that stealing virtual money in a MMORPG is a federal crime in the US.
I'm amazed by the number of people who have given away their ISK... I'm amazed... And jealous.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.13 13:02:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Piwat King
To those who got scammed....
Too bad for you. you won't get anything back.
However, if you want to **** with these guys here's what you do.
If you're American, write a letter to the FBI's internet investigations unit. Why you ask? Well there's several reasons.
1) they opened a public domain that required you to create an account that also required personal information. Collecting personal information under false pretenses is a crime. (even over the internet)
2) It's obvious from their letter that they intended all along to use this domain to commit fraud (of a type)
3) If they live in North America. they've committed digital fraud.
4) The more of you that file a complaint with the FBI the better chance you all have of getting them to investigate this issue to see if that domain was indeed registered by an American citizen.
5) you will never "get your isk back" but however if this gets looked into and acted upon these guys won't be able to so much as power up a computer for the next 10-20 years.
Digital items in EVE are inherently the property of CCP. Even your character belongs to CCP. Your personal information however is yours. They collected and maintained a database of that personal info with the intent to mislead people. That's a crime.
Enjoy and good luck (and dear god I can't believe people actually fell for this)
Wow , your trolling right?Come on say you're trolling ...
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 13:18:00 -
[84]
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Piwat King
To those who got scammed....
Too bad for you. you won't get anything back.
However, if you want to **** with these guys here's what you do.
If you're American, write a letter to the FBI's internet investigations unit. Why you ask? Well there's several reasons.
1) they opened a public domain that required you to create an account that also required personal information. Collecting personal information under false pretenses is a crime. (even over the internet)
2) It's obvious from their letter that they intended all along to use this domain to commit fraud (of a type)
3) If they live in North America. they've committed digital fraud.
4) The more of you that file a complaint with the FBI the better chance you all have of getting them to investigate this issue to see if that domain was indeed registered by an American citizen.
5) you will never "get your isk back" but however if this gets looked into and acted upon these guys won't be able to so much as power up a computer for the next 10-20 years.
Digital items in EVE are inherently the property of CCP. Even your character belongs to CCP. Your personal information however is yours. They collected and maintained a database of that personal info with the intent to mislead people. That's a crime.
Enjoy and good luck (and dear god I can't believe people actually fell for this)
Wow , your trolling right?Come on say you're trolling ...
He prolly saw some lawyer movie and feels all smart now.
Half of what he said is bull****.
Smart people have quotes in their sig
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Hunter Verdeen
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Posted - 2011.08.13 14:45:00 -
[85]
I sent an alt 100m ISK and used it to invest when these guys first started figuring if it was a scam I could afford to lose. I was received my first 2 interest payments then let the alt's account go inactive. I just recently reactivated the alt and it had still been getting payments so I had isk in the wallet when (before the initial transfer) I had only a little over 1m. I was considering withdrawing my investment when this is announced. Of course I lost the 100m ISK but I have lost more losing a ships or even simply buying fitting and trying ships I later sold everything for less than I paid because I did not like it.
The point is I gambled on something and lost in a game. But lets look at what I lost and that is ISK. I took 100M ISK that was simply sitting in my wallet doing nothing and put it into a gamble to make more ISK. Every time I undock my Hulk or worse yet Orca I do the same. I made some ISK in interest same as when I mine ore and sell it. Then I lost my initial investment same as if my ship got ganked. Overall I actually lost less investing than I would have having set up to mine and within a few minutes been ganked. Either way I lost ISK playing my game the way I wanted to so I am not mad things did not work out as planned. Better luck next time(or not).
Now let's take a look at the reason this happened and why folks with some unneeded ISK lying around invested in this as well as sometimes other schemes (say loaning it to someone you know in game and then not getting paid back). Keep in mind I am big into ISK for nothing. I do PI for the easy ISK and play ER games like the lottery and others where you do nothing but risk/donate ISK for a chance at a larger return. Had the investment been legit and worked out over time I could have gotten a good return on my initial investment for doing nothing. However I can't make isk missioning, manufacturing, buying and selling, or mining without a lot of time invested at least in research of how/where to make the most ISK if not actual time spent doing something. Now this is not to say I don't do these things (at least some of them) but overall if there is potential to make say 100m isk by spending 5m or simply lose the 5m while doing nothing I see it a risk worth taking. Frequently you lose but sometimes you gain and that to me is a big part of playing Eve and in fact is how I enjoy playing. It may not be how you play or what you would do but the simply fact I don't have to do the same as everyone else is a big reason I play.
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.08.13 16:35:00 -
[86]
Isk in the wallet doing nothing has more value then in the hands of someone else. It won't double, tripple, and borrow 17m. Its a safe secure deposit box, so long as you don't stupidly fall for margin scans, read local contracts, double another person's wallet as they "leave" eve, pay corp security desposits, or buy way out priced officer mods for your ship you won't loose. Its nice to always have that isk there for when you really need it, like a PVP binge or buying a bunch of PLEX to fund an alt.
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Leimos
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Posted - 2011.08.13 16:55:00 -
[87]
o/ Hope everyone enjoyed their Phaser Inc experience. First off, thank you for all the nice ISK, I'm sure my partner and I will give it a nice home. Everything is explained on the website, so making a thread post is really silly.
If your mad (umadbrah), attempt to do something in game about it. Otherwise your ranting and complaining is moot. EVE is a game; get over it, we'll do it again if we want. Later. o/
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.08.13 17:01:00 -
[88]
Anyone stupid enough to pour isk into an investment bank in eve online deserves to be ripped off
3 most obvious scams
1. Investment Banks / Loans - haha at all those stupid enough to lose isk
2. Send me isk and ill triple it type scam - haha at all those stupid enough to lose isk
3. Cant make a contract.... trade to me in station... - can't I just make a want to buy contract for you instead???
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Piwat King
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Posted - 2011.08.14 06:24:00 -
[89]
Now, I'm not an American citizen... But I doubt that stealing virtual money in a MMORPG is a federal crime in the US.
I'm amazed by the number of people who have given away their ISK... I'm amazed... And jealous. Do you have any proof of the amount of ISK and contributers?
It's not about stealing virtual money. Perhaps you need to read a little more, or learn to read. Let me break it down for you
Within EVE online, CCP are the ones in charge. if they say it's allowed then it's allowed within the realm of New Eden. Once you enter the public domain ( creating a website with intent to commit fraud) It becomes something different. If you mislead people and gather and maintain a database of personal information without the proper licensing and contractual agreements (notice how every website you join that collects personal information has you accept thier own version of agreements?) Then you're committing fraud.
It doesn't matter what gets stolen, it's called "Intent" (go look it up) The public domain is a different world, one called "the real world" with real consequences. tell you what, If you don't think this is real file a complaint with the FBI (if you're American) and they will tell you to go jump off a cliff (in laymen terms)
Your complaint cannot be about items in EVE (which CCP owns) it has to be about "The gathering of personal information with the intent to commit fraud using a public domain." (word it exactly like that) And then sit back and wait and see what they say.
and no, I didn't watch something on TV... I spent a couple years studying law. Hated it so tried something else.
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Ildryn
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Posted - 2011.08.14 06:28:00 -
[90]
"Phaser inc scam 1 Trillion isk, from 4000 butthurt hi-sec nerds."
Number of active accounts:3360
Pulled from the same place you got your figures from...
Just saying...maybe next time read the whole thing.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.14 08:43:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Ildryn
"Phaser inc scam 1 Trillion isk, from 4000 butthurt hi-sec nerds."
Number of active accounts:3360
Pulled from the same place you got your figures from...
Just saying...maybe next time read the whole thing.
fixed it for ya king
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.08.14 09:56:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 14/08/2011 10:04:13
Originally by: Piwat King
Now, I'm not an American citizen... But I doubt that stealing virtual money in a MMORPG is a federal crime in the US.
I'm amazed by the number of people who have given away their ISK... I'm amazed... And jealous. Do you have any proof of the amount of ISK and contributers?
It's not about stealing virtual money. Perhaps you need to read a little more, or learn to read. Let me break it down for you
Within EVE online, CCP are the ones in charge. if they say it's allowed then it's allowed within the realm of New Eden. Once you enter the public domain ( creating a website with intent to commit fraud) It becomes something different. If you mislead people and gather and maintain a database of personal information without the proper licensing and contractual agreements (notice how every website you join that collects personal information has you accept thier own version of agreements?) Then you're committing fraud.
It doesn't matter what gets stolen, it's called "Intent" (go look it up) The public domain is a different world, one called "the real world" with real consequences. tell you what, If you don't think this is real file a complaint with the FBI (if you're American) and they will tell you to go jump off a cliff (in laymen terms)
Your complaint cannot be about items in EVE (which CCP owns) it has to be about "The gathering of personal information with the intent to commit fraud using a public domain." (word it exactly like that) And then sit back and wait and see what they say.
and no, I didn't watch something on TV... I spent a couple years studying law. Hated it so tried something else.
Lying on a website is not fraud. You are wrong. Second, even if it was fraud, the FBI wouldn't care. They are busy. Third, even though it is not fraud, and even if it was the FBI wouldn't care (I mean you think terms and conditions violations are "fraud" are you serious?) the poor bastard who had to read or god forbid listen to your complaint would not tell you to jump off a cliff, because they are professionals. But once they hung up, you would be insane crank #57987 they had to deal with that week, and they would make fun of you behind your back to their co-workers.
I mean oh my goodness I can't even start with how completely wrong you are.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.08.14 10:05:00 -
[93]
Seriously, as soon as you give your isk away there is risk you won't see any of it again.
People not anticipating that deserve this lesson.
People that did anticipate but took the risk anyway, they knew what they were getting into, it didn't pay off, ow boohoo for them.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.08.14 11:37:00 -
[94]
How many times did you report Eddie Lamperts bot that went system to system spamming the stuff?
Why did CCP take no action against the EULA breaches?
We will never know.
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.08.14 11:41:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
How many times did you report Eddie Lamperts bot that went system to system spamming the stuff?
Why did CCP take no action against the EULA breaches?
We will never know.
How do you know whether it was bot or not?
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.08.14 12:17:00 -
[96]
Originally by: malaire
Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
How many times did you report Eddie Lamperts bot that went system to system spamming the stuff?
Why did CCP take no action against the EULA breaches?
We will never know.
How do you know whether it was bot or not?
I had 3 people, 1 in each time zone, monitor his activity round the clock for 7 days straight. The TQ server could have done this easily.
CCP don't have any interest in ending a ponzi that will MAKE COLUMN INCHES on the EVEISREAL website and OTHER WEBSITES.
Big scams = big advertising.
Any more pithy questions?
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.14 12:31:00 -
[97]
Why, oh why, would anyone ever just give ISK to someone ever?
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Yseri
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Posted - 2011.08.14 17:46:00 -
[98]
Why are people so excited about this? It was obvious that it was a scam, a well-engineered one. I "invested" 50 mil into it to see what happens, so I lost what, about 1 euro worth of internet money? Boo-hoo, one less candybar for me.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.14 23:07:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Yseri
Why are people so excited about this? It was obvious that it was a scam, a well-engineered one. I "invested" 50 mil into it to see what happens, so I lost what, about 1 euro worth of internet money? Boo-hoo, one less candybar for me.
the Above quote is where a nerd admits he "knew" it was a scam, but "invested" anyway.
This is exactly the attitude these guys capitalized on. You & 3359 other butthurt suckers.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.08.15 00:17:00 -
[100]
It's a well known fact that 0.0 folks are all highly intelligent, tough mean looking hairy machos while hisec inhabitants are all fat nerds with huge glasses.
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Kira Darkfire
Amarr
KTVQ
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Posted - 2011.08.15 09:15:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Hoya en Marland
It's a well known fact that 0.0 folks are all highly intelligent, tough mean looking hairy machos while hisec inhabitants are all fat nerds with huge glasses.
Some of us don't need glasses
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Ildryn
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Posted - 2011.08.16 01:40:00 -
[102]
Lol wish i had a trillion to scam.
Never been scammed in eve...
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.16 02:07:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ildryn
Lol wish i had a trillion to scam.
You are a fking rtard. Sad thing is you won't realize why you are as such.
Hint: yes, it's in the quote;
Smart people have quotes in their sig
- me |
Ildryn
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Posted - 2011.08.16 03:30:00 -
[104]
meh had a couple friends tell me i was scammed because of this post.
suppose i should have read it better. oh well.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.16 04:13:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Taedrin
There are two questions that I ask myself when I see an entity like Phaser Inc.
1) If they are so successful, why do they need my money?
2) If they are so successful, why would they be willing to pay interest on my investment when they could instead just wait for their own business to give them the money they need?
There are times when you can answer the above two questions satisfactorily. But Phaser Inc. never answered these two, key questions.
That being said, it IS possible for the "customers" to make a lot of money off of ponzi schemes. The trick is that you have to get in early, and pull out before it's too late.
Because paying 5% interest on 10% profit that you make with somebody else's money is the way RL investing works (when you don't lose).
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Posted - 2011.09.03 04:13:00 -
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I put a few mill into phaser, think I made it back too. I kind of forgot about it until today actually. I wasn't surprised one bit. I was mostly curious how long it would take the ponzi scheme to collapse. As far as scams go, there was a decent amount of effort put in, but it wasn't really original. It pretty much just went on the same theme pickup artists use. You push through rejection and go for sheer volume. Thousands of people knew about phaser, so for minimal risk you could throw a few cents in for a peek at the end result. If you really want to outwit people, you play the game side by side with them. I once made 3 billion in 30 minutes without anyone ever knowing who it was who really orchestrated it. As far as quick thinking, opportunistic profit, with big consequences, that's your game. Number crunching schemes are for guys who can't look their target in the eye, feed them a convincing lie, and then sweep everything out from under them for being as weak as they are. Ponzi schemes are completely unoriginal. Phaser isn't anywhere near the league of the guiding hand social club.
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Hyperionne
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Posted - 2011.09.03 04:30:00 -
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Tactical espionage is so much more rewarding then big spreadsheet mustache-twirling villainy. I once used on the spot intel from a spy to maneuver a small combat fleet into position on a target coming to attack us in our home system. We sank two expensive battleships and went home with no losses. The spy wasn't even compromised.
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Posted - 2011.09.03 10:51:00 -
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LOLZ
oh and one more time
I LOLZ
idiots are idiots, they're needed.
well done.
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ion496
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Posted - 2011.09.07 18:27:00 -
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Seriously? NOBODY learned from the EIB?
You were dumb enough to get scammed, and you did get scammed. That's all I see.
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