Your own wording says it all. Most denotes > 50% mathematically. In order for the economy & PvP opportunity to remain at their current levels, it would have to affect 0%. Thanks for stopping in.

It's a general buff because all T2 missiles are reworked and after the change you will have modules to buff your practical damage application with missiles.

Ahem.



Adapt or die.

That isn't really going to benefit the CNR though. For example, my CNR fit has 4 BCUs and 3 Rigors - my mid slots are all tank and PG. I wouldn't be prepared to compromise my tank any further and feel that the tanl/gank balance on that hull is as defined as it can be.

Now the Golem is a different matter. Were I able to fit a mod in the Mids to replace the 3 TPs then that would be of massive interest.

Yawn.

People do like to throw these meaningless little quotes around. I suppose they form a purpose if you are too lazy to post something worth reading

TCs/TEs plus Torps is, I think, the general idea of where the new missioning CNR will end up.

Doesn't make it any less true. This is hardly the first nerf mission runners have faced and far from the biggest. Its only really impacting two ships which eveyone with half a brain knew were overdue a nerf.

The CNR isn't a Torp boat though, it's a CM boat. Obviously I'm open minded about it and it might be that after the changes are made it'd lend itself to Torps more. I guess it's a case of suck it and see.

"Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Siege and Cruise Missile Launcher Rate Of Fire and 10% bonus to Torpedo and Cruise Missile Velocity per level of skill"

Looks like it's an Either boat. The only reason why nobody uses Torps on them is that they don't have the range or explosion velocity/size to reach out and touch things. TEs and TCs will potentially fix both of those problems.

Basically, Torps without significant ship bonuses usually suck eggs. These changes might fix that.

Fingers crossed. No real need to train a Golem if the changes happen in this way. It'll all depend on the fitting of course, but the Golem can only have 4 launchers so the CNR should be able to apply double the DPS in theory.

How much longer do we need to wait until CCP fix the changes?

The changes are the fix.

You misunderstand. What I meant was at the moment they are just proposals. At what point will CCP state 'Right this is what we are going to do' and on what date is that likely to be implemented?

The drake by itself is quite reasonable as is. If you put 200 or so in a fleet with 30 scimitars, some recons and dics and it becomes an instrument of destruction praying for war.

We will only be activating specific parts of the new AI for this third template and it will not change how much damage the NPC do, how much damage they take, or generally how strong they are.

Considering NCdots current massacre of drake fleets I would seriously doubt this claim.

http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=home&scl_id=10

This month alone we are seeing almost 2000 BC kills, mostly drake fleets

http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=203333

Outcomes like this are a good example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNhF6oriOXM&feature=player_embedded

Less money in the economy, less T3's being produced, less PvP targets, less plex being bought.

TCs/TEs plus Torps is, I think, the general idea of where the new missioning CNR will end up.

T2 modules are ever so expensive.
74k EHP, 396 DPS @ 74km, MWD, Point, Web (hey, I had forgotten that this fit has a web. Feel free to swap it for more tank or a TP or some other EWAR.)*

So, which other BC can do that? A Myrm can't reach out anywhere near 70km with the Dual 150s it can fit with a 70k EHP tank (possibly also true of the 250s it can fit without a tank, cba to check), and won't get anywhere near 400 DPS at 70km with its sentries.



*[Drake, Shield Fleet BC]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

So overpowered ships should remain overpowered because people are using them? kay

I like your posts Cypher but they always come back to this.

I deem you chicken little.

The trouble is, Drake isn't over powered. The other ones are under powered.

One of the most useless fits I have seen.

The advantage of the drake tank is its huge natural regen. Which this fit does not have.
What is the point in hitting out to 75km if you are close enough to make use of the point and web??
Would be a great PVP fit with HAMs instead of HM's
Don't really see how this fit is sooo great.
Yes it would work well in PVP, but there are many cane fits that would mop the floor with this drake.

Lol. I should have specifically said in the OP "The sky is not falling BUT..." instead of "Eve is not dying."

I agree its not going to kill the game, its just going to effect the number of people logged in for a while. I hope not permanently.