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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 10:41:00 -
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If I, or Chribba, hold the collateral I'll take the whole thing at 5%. 
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 11:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Magnu Stormhawk
Originally by: RAW23
If I, or Chribba, hold the collateral I'll take the whole thing at 5%.
You know, I was just thinking i'll head back here and mention that i'd be happy if RAW23 holds the collateral to give him another option, and then i realised as soon as you knew about it you'd probably just take it yourself :P
Hey ho. Thats the deal the OP should have looked for anyway :)
Now I feel bad 
If it was bigger I would offer to split it. I'd also be happy to hold the collateral if the rate drops below my personal preferred level.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Levija Saplina
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Souris Blanche
Talked to Chribba earlier and sent him a mail with details. I am awaiting his response before I make any decisions about who will hold the collateral.
right here. it became clear that you are interested in bond roleplay & not real maths.
You do realize that if you give the collateral directly to tom/anyone here begging that you would be better off as you don't have to pay 3rd party fees.
its collateralized so i can;t really troll it (Step 6). just think about it, more isk for you if you let the person giving you the isk hold the stuff.
I can only agree with that.
If someone offers to cover the full bond money and hold onto the collateral, I don't see why anyone would go and look for another third party.
It's more like rep grinding than anything else really.
It depends on how the collateral is valued. If 100% is a very conservative valuation and one could actually expect to get, say, 125% by taking the time to sell things on sell orders rather than dumping to buys then you will be trusting someone you don't know with c. 700mil isk. It might be worth paying a small fee to avoid that. It's also worth bearing in mind that some third parties will provide their services for free in the case of small bonds like this.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 16:18:00 -
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I can't claim to understand the reasoning behind this but yes, I would be happy to hold the collateral on these conditions.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Paul L Atreides
Originally by: RAW23
I can't claim to understand the reasoning behind this
rep grinding ? 
But how would insisting that the collateral holder and the investors be different help in this regard?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.19 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Levija Saplina
You do understand that if you pay two investors 5% return on their investment, it doesn't make you pay out 10% return on the investment right ?
X * 1.05 + Y * 1.05 =/= (X+Y) * 1.10 ...
I mean, basic maths etc...
He's paying the investors 5% on their investment and the collateral holder a 5% fee on the total, giving 10% total payout. |
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