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Osiris Torc
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.24 22:15:00 -
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My current long term goal is to end up flying a Battleship...and I have narrowed it down to these two choices...I like the Rohk for its long range capabilities, but from all my forum lurking all i have heard is that the sniper role is really no longer needed, I have also read that the Thron can be set up to be complete **** face....but looking at the throns bonuses to hybrid turrets....if I was willing to give up the Rohks range bonus, couldn't I do a decent job of sniping, and then with a simple fitting change go to a more "brawler" build as well....educate me.....
tl;dr: Rohk or Megathron.....or get both???
inb4 "Lurk more Newb" |
Marsan
Production N Destruction INC.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 00:16:00 -
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The Rohk is a horrible ship for pretty much anything other than long range sniping and it's merely okay at that. |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.25 01:34:00 -
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Using a battleship in PvP means you're in one of two situations--either part of a large fleet, in which case fleet doctrine should determine your ship choice, or you're alone/in a small gang. The latter role is rare these days as the sacrifices BS make in terms of speed, agility, and price are seldom worth the moderate gains over a BC in firepower and durability. If you do want a small gang or solo BS, you'll want one with utility highslots like the Tempest. There are a few gimmicky ASB Rokh fits, but it's not something I'd have as a training goal. The Megathron is probably better here, but still not ideal. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:07:00 -
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Blokhs are kind of OK as a blaster active ASB brawler, the problem with ASBing a Rokh, is it needs a Cap Booster in addition to 2 ASBs, making it hard to fit, however it can be done.
As for the Megathron, its pretty nice as a Solo/Small Gang/RRBS battleships, dont rail fit em for PVP unless your in a large fleet. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde
Habitat Against Humanity
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Posted - 2012.09.26 00:20:00 -
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If you're flying without logi, the Hyperion is also worth a look.
Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |
Hirimatsu Yamamoto
Bunnie Slayers
Redrum Fleet
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Posted - 2012.09.26 02:28:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:If you're flying without logi, the Hyperion is also worth a look.
That was a troll, right........right? |
Ereidel Janus
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.26 04:08:00 -
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In terms of fleet warfare, the Rokh is superior by far. It has a better tank, better range/alpha(with rails). |
Ereidel Janus
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.26 04:09:00 -
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Marsan wrote:The Rohk is a horrible ship for pretty much anything other than long range sniping and it's merely okay at that.
The Rokh is one of the better, if not best sniping battleships out there. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.26 04:49:00 -
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Osiris Torc wrote:My current long term goal is to end up flying a Battleship...and I have narrowed it down to these two choices...I like the Rohk for its long range capabilities, but from all my forum lurking all i have heard is that the sniper role is really no longer needed, I have also read that the Thron can be set up to be complete **** face....but looking at the throns bonuses to hybrid turrets....if I was willing to give up the Rohks range bonus, couldn't I do a decent job of sniping, and then with a simple fitting change go to a more "brawler" build as well....educate me.....
tl;dr: Rohk or Megathron.....or get both???
inb4 "Lurk more Newb"
Snipe from what range?
Pick a Mega, fit it T3 BC like since you don't need tank to snipe and get an optimal with T2 long range ammo above your max targeting range (optimal+fall off above 300km), biggest difference with Rock is +dmg, and you want +dmg.
But Rokh is ok too, an awesome ship full of mids for tank but no dmg bonus on hull and limited low slots to increase dmg.
To snipe in fleets I'd pick Rock because average snipe range +/-150km, very decent tank and still dish a decent amount of dmg.
For solo sniping, Megatrhon everyday!!! -+ tracking +dmg, how not to choose this one?
Welp Mega sensor strght sucks arse hard, unless your target is dumb or afk he could warp out and in twice before you can lock it.
brb |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
199
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:05:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:If you're flying without logi, the Hyperion is also worth a look.
Nano-hype with a huggin buddy is pretty fun, specially when you can run down most BCs with it. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:02:00 -
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Why only a Rokh or Megathron? I prefer pure Missile hulls myself, but were I to choose a turret BS, then there's only really one ship I'd go for - the Machariel.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:01:00 -
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Marsan wrote:The Rohk is a horrible ship for pretty much anything other than long range sniping and it's merely okay at that.
You must never have flown one. It's not fast, but neither is a plated mega. It's agile as hell now though. Blaster rokhs gun DPS is the stuff of nightmares + it can tank like a baws. |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
Intrepid Crossing
99
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:02:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Why only a Rokh or Megathron? I prefer pure Missile hulls myself, but were I to choose a turret BS, then there's only really one ship I'd go for - the Machariel.
It also costs over 2 billion to buy and fit properly, not even including the snakes you should have. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
529
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:30:00 -
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rokh locks stuff so slow it makes me want to kill myself.
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
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Posted - 2012.09.29 11:57:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:Why only a Rokh or Megathron? I prefer pure Missile hulls myself, but were I to choose a turret BS, then there's only really one ship I'd go for - the Machariel. It also costs over 2 billion to buy and fit properly, not even including the snakes you should have.
And? I lost a PVE Drake that cost more than that.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
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