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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 04:37:00 -
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I honestly think the poster should be banned for shear stupidity.
Ammo costs? ROFL, i guess carrying 10mil of crystals in your bs doesnt count right?
Cap use for webs? You've got to be ******* kidding.
I fear my head will explode if i type anymore, ta.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 06:00:00 -
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You idiot minmatar are also failing to see that post ammo changes, amarr will output a lot more em and a lot less thermal making us even MORE predictable.
EM hardner > Lasers
Keep *****ing boys.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 06:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Hakera
Originally by: Meridius
You idiot minmatar are also failing to see that post ammo changes, amarr will output a lot more em and a lot less thermal making us even MORE predictable.
EM hardner > Lasers
Keep *****ing boys.
and you idiotic amarrians will be doing more armour dmg.
any other points you can scrape the barrel with?
Wow, there are these modules, called EM hardners. Whats stopping you from fitting them exactly?
Your inties already get a built in unbalanced EM hardner, what the **** else do you want?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
Originally by: Meridius
Your inties already get a built in unbalanced EM hardner, what the **** else do you want?
I hope your not referring to the 10% we get? Or wait that cant be possiblly comparible to the 70% exp resistance you get non which covers 50% of proj dmg :s
Or is that after the 50hp more armour and shield you get?
Yea I really feel sorry for you! 
Do you guys roleplay being idiots as well?
Base EXPL Res: 10%
Base EM Res: 60%
Crusader: Expl Res 30%
Claw: EM Res 80%
What happens when you put a 50% active hardner on 60% base em res armor? You get 80% res.
Ok so what happens when you put a 50% active on expl? You get 55% res.
Once again, since you're slow.
Crusader: Expl Res 30%
Claw: EM Res 80%
For no apparent reason, these racial resists are put on flat giving your bonus a 50% effectiveness while ours is 23%.
You have been served, thanks for trying.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 09:15:00 -
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Hakera
That has to be the most bloated bull**** i've ever read in my life.
It has absolutely nothing to do with balanced racial resists at all, and ffs, you're predicting how a fight would go purely through numbers?
Have you ever actually taken part in any PVP? Seriously.
Jesus christ.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
then by extrapolation, the claw will die 5% faster than the equivalent malediction (Thats 0.75 seconds
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
Fusion S
lol?!
Who the **** uses fusion in a claw? Wow, you are so totally not biased at all.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
Originally by: Meridius
Hakera
you're predicting how a fight would go purely through numbers?
nope i cant model stupidty or luck per se especially in the rapidally changing scenario of frigate fights, but it was a direct response to your claim that if a claw fitted a thermal hardner everything would be hunky dory. All that models is if a claw and malediction were sat 5k from each other without moving who would win without taking into account tanking.
What part of my stats did you not understand?
I seriously do not understand where you are coming from.
You are getting a 50% active em hardner for free, we are getting a 23% active expl hardner for free.
Those are the numbers, i did not make them up.
Why must you go into gun stats and other bull**** hocus pocus numbers?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
and I included the 80% 'free hardner' resistence in the math if you bothered to look for EM.
Listen dude, i don't give a **** about your math. I think i've made that obvious. You can't model inty combat, you have even admitted it. Please stop quoting that ridiculous crap.
Facts:
1. You get a built in 50% EM hardner
2. Post patch all crystals will be doing MORE EM damage
3. A Muninn/Vagabond has 92.5% base EM res, jesus
4. Our racial resists only cover a fraction of the actual damage you do. IE.
EMP does more EM damage then explosive.
44% of the damage is EM damage
36% of the damage is EXPL damage
18% of the damage is KIN damage
So basically, our resists help out with 54% of the damage you are doing while minmatar racial resists help out 100%
I can live with all of that, i really don't care; just stop ******* whining every god damned day
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.03.06 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Meridius on 06/03/2005 11:11:18
Originally by: Hakera
Edited by: Hakera on 06/03/2005 10:29:44
Originally by: Meridius
2. Post patch all crystals will be doing MORE EM damage
So sure? The distrubution is fairly even between em/thermal with many dropping EM for thermal.
Ok, thats my last post on this unless someone opens a new debate in this one or we continue to debate (hopefully cordially).
MF: 8.3% more EM
Gamma: 17.5% more EM
Xray: 10% more EM
Ultraviolet: 10.4% more EM
Infrared: No Change
Microwave: 20% more THRM - This crystal was nerfed in damage output
Radio: Was all EM, is still all EM, just does 28% less damage.
Many dropping em for thermal?
What on earth are you talking about.
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