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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:15:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:
( Star trek all series was great but so different than this universe no point in making comparrisons )
I'll bet ISK this thread ends with a Picard/Obi-Wan Debate (Argument) |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:22:00 -
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OST was constitution Class Starship. Battlecruiser, Same with the Enterprise class NCC-1701 -A Refit of the Constitution.
Later they NCC 1701 B was Battleship class Excelsior refit.
NCC 1701 - D is galaxy class Maybe dreadnaught? For sure the NCC 1701 -E Sovereign fits that bill. GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:22:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:Voyager could be an Arbitrator (sans drone bay....then again, maybe it was a shuttle construction bay instead...they lost 15 a season...)
The Defiant is a Stealth Bomber.
It also is silly and breaks all rules applied to all other vessels and all other ships, using the old 'Prototype!' go-to-line.
The Prometheus-class is a Tech3 Battleship (if those existed).
Nerd. |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:23:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:pussnheels wrote:
( Star trek all series was great but so different than this universe no point in making comparrisons )
I'll bet ISK this thread ends with a Picard/Obi-Wan Debate (Argument)
Don't you dare bring Jean-Luc Picard into this. I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:34:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:i wonder what would win, titan or super star destroyer SD has functional weapons that can you know hit stuff and fighters. Titans just set in POS and light bridges every now and than. Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient. Nerf it cause I can't fly it. I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:37:00 -
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Except in one particular episode, the Enterprise NEVER could fly through a planet!! |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:19:00 -
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Explorer Tengu
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
Telegram Sam
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:38:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:A Naval Ship of the 17th-18th Century would carry a crew of hundreds (The HMS Victory carried a crew of 800) while being far smaller than that (The HMS Victory is under 70m long, 15m wide) and be at sea for years. Sailing was the rough equivalent of space flight at the time. The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing. But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:11:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:i wonder what would win, titan or super star destroyer
The SSD would win. It has 1000 fighters and thousands of weapon turrets. The titan only has 8 guns. |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:41:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:i wonder what would win, titan or super star destroyer The SSD would win. It has 1000 fighters and thousands of weapon turrets. The titan only has 8 guns.
As much as i love star wars seriously.... its so ******* full of bullshit that when i try to think about it from a science fiction standpoint i cannot help but feel like puking, by star wars statistics, Xwing fighters fire "laser Bolts" that do megaton damage to whatever they hit, at a rate of fire similar to that of an AK-47 basically they would disintegrate a titan in a few seconds. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:43:00 -
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Riedle wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:The Enterprise is a science and exploration wessel. Albeit a very heavily armed one. fixed My hellcat doctrine baddon is called "Nuclear Wessels". http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Unsuccessful At Everything
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:57:00 -
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Come on guys, the Enterprise was clearly a large shuttle. in episode 303 when Luke Skywalker attacked Voltron and Captain Kirk needed to drop off the tribbles, He used the Enterprise D to ferry donuts back to the Galactica so that they could fuel the reactors and defeat Doctor Who and Data. These are facts. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:03:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote: The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing.
But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets.[/quote] What kind of Aricraft Carrier are you talking about? |
leviticus ander
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:15:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:The Enterprise-D seems to be a marauder, a full T2 rebuild of the old idea, with a ton of utility abilities that had never been crammed onto a ship like that before. If it were the direct star trek equivalent of the marauder, they would need a team of people out there to constantly unplug the pinhole sized sensor openings of dust. And the shields would fail if someone throws a stick at them too hard. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:35:00 -
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Enterprise could use torps while in Warp. It was OP for sure. |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:53:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Enterprise could use torps while in Warp. It was OP for sure.
Only when the plot demanded it.
If we removed all of the one shot magic technobabble technology that only gets used once then forgotten about then star trek ships become the equivilant of a badly fitted Augoror. |
Medarr
ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:09:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:Ok, look at relative sizes to the Rest of what was out there, don't compare across universes in terms of size and armament, because EVE and ST have vastly different ideas on how future tech goes.... That said, NCC-1701 (Constitution) was a registered Heavy Cruiser in Starfleet. (BC). It could fight Klingon d-7 Battlecruiser 1v1 with good balance, depending on Torpedo stores, which was the Fed-edge weapon system. NCC-1701-B (Excelsior) was at least a half larger than the Connies. (Battleship) By the time the C came along (Ambassador class), tech had jumped, along with size, with the Excelsiors now as battlecruisers, and the new Ambassadors as Battleships. So, now watch 'Yesterday's Enterprise', and the difference in size from the C to the D. It actually wasn't that much. The Enterprise-D seems to be a marauder, a full T2 rebuild of the old idea, with a ton of utility abilities that had never been crammed onto a ship like that before. Carriers and dreads don't have a lot of help here, since by DS9 era, there were still no Dreadnought vessels (at least in the recognized cannon, SFB and such always had some triple-hulled, 3 nacelle monstrosities to cough at), and the only dedicated carriers in Starfleet were the Akira-class, which are actually closer to the old Constitution-class in size. The Sovereign-E ? I don't see a direct comparison...maybe a Machariel... This is a tricky subject also, not because of size and power, but of speed! Trek ships did not have speed limits. Everything from the smallest shuttle to Romulan D'Deridex Warbirds could accelerate to .7-.8 lightspeed on impulse, and could turn pretty fast too, thanks to the insane amount of physics-cancelling fields that were always killing inertia or ******* with the way mass worked. Why did I write all of that? [edit: especially when dude wrote some for me at the top of the same page?]
OCTD.. Graelyn?
( Obessive. Compulsive. Trekkie. Disorder ) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:39:00 -
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At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:24:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Well if I remember my Star Trek lore right the NCC-1701 series is a galaxy class exploration vessel, hope that helps. (Personally I would say something along the lines of the Ishtar.)
In before Nova Fox with more great SOE Exploration ship designs. |
AL RISHA
The Logs Show Nothing
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:35:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor says
'At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN.'
That's a plus right there ...
Still just a thought on the size of the ships; if I could walk from one end of the ship to the other in a several minutes ... iam sure iam going bored real quick, in my off duty time.
Its kind of like having your work office at the end of your street and thats it , as far as you can walk !
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN.
Except when they don't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSmkym-Stw "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
MadMuppet
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.10.02 01:26:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bBD5yyT-s0
'Nuff Said. If I tried to make a type of coffee that made all of you happy, and you rated it, the group score for it would be about 60 out of 100. Break into 3 or 4 coffee clusters, and made coffee just for each cluster, the scores would go from 60 to 78. The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78 is a difference between coffee that makes you wince or makes you happy. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.10.02 01:35:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:A Naval Ship of the 17th-18th Century would carry a crew of hundreds (The HMS Victory carried a crew of 800) while being far smaller than that (The HMS Victory is under 70m long, 15m wide) and be at sea for years. Sailing was the rough equivalent of space flight at the time. The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing. But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets.
USS Enterprise. As in the Aircraft Carrier. Not the Space Ship Enterprise. I have no clue how big the Trek frisbee is nor how many people are pretending to be on it. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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The Renner
Canadian Operations Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:18:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:A Naval Ship of the 17th-18th Century would carry a crew of hundreds (The HMS Victory carried a crew of 800) while being far smaller than that (The HMS Victory is under 70m long, 15m wide) and be at sea for years. Sailing was the rough equivalent of space flight at the time. The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing. But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets. USS Enterprise. As in the Aircraft Carrier. Not the Space Ship Enterprise. I have no clue how big the Trek frisbee is nor how many people are pretending to be on it.
Enterprise-D had a crew of around 700-800 (and also carried around 250 or so civilians as I recall)
It had an emergency capacity of around 5000 people.
/nerd mode off. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:33:00 -
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I'd like to point out that all Federation ships in Star Trek were science vessels. The only exception was the Defiant, the only warship the Federation ever built, which was pretty obviously a frigate. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
585
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Posted - 2012.10.02 04:10:00 -
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Quote: Its length is given as 300 metres (980 ft), and it has a capacity of 100 crew and 850 passengers
It is classified as a cruiser in Star Trek and it can be "retrofitted". The first one was fit for exploration.
Without a doubt it is a t3 cruiser. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
918
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Posted - 2012.10.02 12:02:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:I'd like to point out that all Federation ships in Star Trek were science vessels. The only exception was the Defiant, the only warship the Federation ever built, which was pretty obviously a frigate.
In fiction, there is always an exception.
In the TNG ep. "Yesterday's Enterprise", it was made quite clear (in the parallel universe) it was an extreme battle-fit ship. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
918
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Posted - 2012.10.02 12:04:00 -
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The Renner wrote:
It had an emergency capacity of around 5000 people.
/nerd mode off.
Yes, I remember Picard saying some number slightly above 1,000 on board. Not sure what ep. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
918
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Posted - 2012.10.02 12:23:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
lol Funny Pic |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.02 14:00:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:(in the parallel universe)
There you go.
Also, the weapons on Federation ships were ancillary. Take the Defiant - barely larger than a shuttle, but capable of outgunning the Enterprise very easily, if you want to see what a warship looked like by Star Trek standards. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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